Hi guys, I am in between things..so anyway...

I never said the logging industry was completely gone, we have also seen Ax Men...lol.

MV...no I do not think for one second they should accept bail-out money, they need to get the damned environmentalists and govt. out of the way...they destroy business, good lumber, make sure of ensured fires in the global warming period of this country called 'summer.' whole danged towns...these people that put lawsuits on others to halt production is costly, let alone the tree huggers that destroy machinery, spike trees, block logging sites, ect ..these groups with various names need to pay up when they lose,every single way there is, which there are a lot... in the meantime until court makes decisions, no matter how high they take the case, production should go on, not halted.

I could go on and on, I'm not going to bore others with logging, let alone what they have done to stop mining in my area, one of the biggest silver mines in the NW has been trying to comply, paying millions, to just get production started in our area...

My husband and I have lived around been involved in logging forever...so much had been done to destroy this evil industry, along with oil, and mining.

God forbid...

Let the govt. rule...they want control, they know best, they are going to slowly get their wish full-filled.

Full socialism rules.

I weep for what I have seen happen to this country in my lifetime. 

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I lived in MI in the early 80's. What MV suggest is very true. It happened in the late 70's when the Auto manufactures had to reorganize. Many machines shops and fabricators of all kinds went belly up when the auto business had to cut back or went and found cheaper vendors outside of the States. It is easy to say, well they will just be taken over by competency, but suggesting it wont make it so. Our manufacturing force has been under cut so badly that we no longer even bother taking the work to the cheap labor, we import the cheap labor.
While it is obvious that the US auto companies need some serious restructuring, I believe it would be a serious mistake to let them collapse. The Feds have tied there own hands behind their backs, they fully support the Unions to a fault, but yet it is the Union who are the biggest part of the problem.
While I agree that bailing them out will not solve the problem, I also believe that our Gov. with it's current laws and restrictions can do nothing to help, only delay it in the form of a bailout.
Just as in the 70's and early 80's when the rest of the country was in collapse, here on the Gulf Coast they were booming, it is starting to repeat its self. This time could be much worst, if we loose some of these Co altogether.

You are lucky PT you get to work for yourself and be very secure. Many folks in this county have to rely on others to be successful in order to have a secure job. Many of these CEO's run these large Co into the ground, leaving their employees at the mercy of their poor managing skills or corrupt behavior. I have seen this time and time again, thousands suffer so that a handful can get filthy rich. Their is never any penalty for killing thousands of jobs, it is perfectly legal to take a profitable Co and sell it in pieces or run it into the ground, leaving the employees and community in shambles. I fear until this practice halts we will never recover and have a profitable and consistent job market.

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