Openly Conservative Actor Kelsey Grammer Considering Run for Mayor of NY?
The entertainment industry is notably short on actors who are confident enough to express any rightward beliefs in notoriously left Tinseltown, but one of the few who does, actor Kelsey Grammer (best known for his role as Dr. Frasier Crane on Cheers and then later Frasier) told the New York Post that once he's done with his thespian career he may end up running for mayor of New York City.
The RightNetwork backer told the New York Post's Sean Daly: "I have had a great career and extraordinary opportunities, but I look at my political aspirations as that last piece of my life -- where I hope to do something good for people and pay back a little."
Daly reported that Grammer "is clear that he has moved from LA permanently and is a New Yorker now. If and when he runs, it would likely be here, he says."
Referencing his out of the Hollywood mainstream views, Grammer pointed out: "It is not unfamiliar for me to have a point of view that might be considered out of the norm in my community." He then went on to offer this take on the debt ceiling debate:
"Even the solution they are talking about now -- the 10-year, $3-trillion solution -- that has to be paid for. Nobody is talking about actually getting rid of the debt that exists already. That doesn't make any sense. It's first-grade math."
To read the full July 31 New York Post story please visit their site here.
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I have been having a Frasier Renaissance
Submitted by Lipton on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:30pm.
The show was just so incredibly clever. I am enjoying the reruns immensely. Even my 6 year old son enjoyed some of the slapstick comedy they had on one particular episode (he also likes the dog).
File the papers.
Submitted by NeoKong on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:36pm.
Then we'll talk.
This is the first sign of the end of a career
Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:40pm.
I don't know. Does New York need another mayor who's hooked on booze and cocaine?
Sluggo
Oh look boys and girls. The anonymous moniker is judging.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 12:53pm.
Oh goody goody goody. Sluggo the anonymous moniker that we know absolutely nothing about, zero in the way of a life story, a paint huffer for all we know, yes, very possibly a paint huffer, is sitting in judgement of a guy that we have an actual history.
You go little paint huffer, you judge and point out the failings of others. We won't tell anyone about you lifelong coprophalia habit. Nah, you got a fake moniker to cover that up. Shhhhh.
Say, you holding a big ol' rock there? Chuck it. Hurry up. Come on sissy. Chuck it at someone.
Always amusing when anonymous monikeers think they can point out the foibles of others. Chuck time.
Chuck time?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:13pm.
Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. No, not YOU.
Okay........you.
Sluggo
Oh no. It is all about me. Ain't it?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:26pm.
It is not about an anonymous ass that hides behind his anonymity to judge others. Yeah, your paint huffing and lifelong coprophagia habit has been completely erased and you are now without sin.
So chuck that stone Mr. Paint Huffing Coprophagist because I am grouchy and therefore have sin unlike your erased history.
It is all about me. Not your anonymous ass judging others.
You find fecal jokes funny?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:51pm.
Or are you trying to get under my anonymous skin? A lesson on the internet: Everyone is anonymous, and no one is anonymous.
Sluggo
Sluggo, you must enjoy
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 2:11pm.
Sluggo, you must enjoy getting schooled by The Vet, because you keep coming back for more.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
I don't feel particularly obligated
Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 2:17pm.
To justify myself with a Sarah Palin fan.
Sluggo
You are rather stupid aren't you?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 3:01pm.
Sluggo: Everyone is anonymous, and no one is anonymous.
We were not talking about everyone on the internet, were we? Huh, Stupid? The subject was Kelsey Grammer who has a real name, a real history, and a very real biography.
So you missed that right off the bat in thinking you can make some kind of smartass remark like you are privy to some deep great insight about the internet we have all missed.
And those of us that also have an anonymous moniker are not sitting in judgment of a man that does have a past. Only a paint huffing coprophagist name Sluggo thinks he can use anonymity to slur a man that has made mistakes. But I have said that already. In plain English. Above. Everyone saw it and got the message. Somehow you managed to miss that too. You are rather stupid aren't you?
You are quite strange, fella
Submitted by SLUGGO on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 3:09pm.
Now on to another story.
Sluggo
And you are stupid.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 7:13pm.
Translation: Yeah, I got nothin' so I will just make one ad hominem attack after another on conservative figures and also people that call me on my bull then act as though they are the one with the problem not me. It is the 4th grade after all. Well, that was when I stopped maturing so....
You win The Vet
Submitted by chronic on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:54am.
Way to do the adult thing and walk away from the argument... or result to repetative use of croprophagia and sound just as foolish and guilty of all you are accusing.
So did you win the argument and prove that you don't judge others, like make accusations of paint-huffing, or hide behind monikers.
You are so ready to fight you miss the irony that sluggo is no more guilty than anyone else that was discrediting Mr. Grammer without hearing a word about his political views or platforms.
So go on showing off how smart you are by using croprophagia, which gained fame from that Nixon rally where protestors held up the sign that said "Dick Nixon practices croprophagia"
Who are you?
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:54pm.
Oh never mind. It took me 15 seconds to read your 4 years worth of posts. Yeah, not surprising you completely missed my point as well.
So Stupid's little brother coming in to back him up. Let me say it again for all of you dim bulbs that can't get a simple point. And it was simple. See my very first post.
I am an anonymous moniker. I don't like the politics of Person X. I will bring up foibles of Person X to completely dismiss anything positive he has ever done. And yes, you will not know of one single skeleton in my closet because all information about me is off limits.
4 years and you ain't done or said jack squat here unlike the nasty little vermin you are supporting. A 50 time retread that has been banned for language, harassment, language, harassment, threatening language, harassment, language, attempting to unmask the identity of others in order to harass them in meatspace, language, language, and unrepentent trolling in one account after another.
Yeah, the troll you support so much, he has a long history here. So you puff up your conservative cred feathers because you talked smack to a trolljegeren. I know every single trolljegeren here. You? Who the frell are you? Another squirrel trying to get a nut and using fellow posters to climb over to get that nut.
Hey, you missed this poster a while back. Why don't you go support him?
No more than I've seen George Bush's brain scan which would most probably indicate brain damage as a result of prior alcoholism.
Should you imagine that what I just said is a gratuitous joke, take note; I've actually seen brain scans of former alcoholics and they aren't pretty. Notice I said former alcoholics. The brain damage does not go away after recovery.
Whoops. You don't have to support that troll. YOU JUST DID.
Yeah, President Bush made stupid decisions in the White House because of the alchohol induced brain damage.
Kelsey Grammer ain't poo because he had drug issues in the past.
Rush Limbaugh ain't poo because he had drug issues in the past.
Republican or Conservative person X is stupid. Again, ain't poo.
You better get busy, it won't be but a day or 2 until some ad hominem attack comes from some troll who feels we can dismiss the entire life story of a Republican or conservative because of some foible in the past.
And since you don't want me shutting them down, it is all now on you Mister Four Posts all of them nothing but whines about the site and here users.
Ahhhh---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 7:19pm.
"chronic", refers to the eponymous pain this long time almost anonymous poster feels when a fellow dork gets tagged, bagged, and gagged.
MD
Yet you feel obligated to
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 3:05pm.
Yet you feel obligated to reply.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Maybe they could convince Marion Berrry to move North
Submitted by Lipton on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 1:43pm.
He has been a real asset to DC?
What about Eliot Spitzer. There's a class act with lots of connections.
New York voted for Chicago politician for President so why not go for Rod the Blagovich for Mayor. He knows how to get things done.
If you insist on getting someone for Mayor with a history of drug abuse. How about Joe Biden's daughter or Al Gore's son.
Or, for just good, old, all-around corruption,
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 7:26pm.
how about Kwame Kilpatrick? Maybe Monica Conyers? I'm sure they would just do wonderfully in NYC. The NYT would love either of them.
As opposed to what?
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 2:03pm.
One that was so corrupt and inept that nepotism and cronyism ruled the day, and was really such a bad mayor that NOTHING GOT DONE? (Dinkins) Or maybe one that, by pretending to be something he really wasn't...... got elected and then bought his way to another election victory just because he knew he had to keep power (Bloomberg) YOU MEAN YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE ONE LIKE THESE?........
I don't know about Mr. Grammer, BUT...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 8:41pm.
I DO know that NB doesn't need another poster with zero substance with only constant insulting smartassery on offer. But yet, here you are, defecating on one thread after another.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Bingo
Submitted by Rukus on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 10:12pm.
We need to throw some salt on this slug-oh! But then we'd have to clean up the slimy mess... oh!
Were ou addressing me unsane?
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:31am.
Just want to know...........
No, he wasn't
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:55am.
He was replying to sluggo, just as you did. Notice the indentations??? They mean something.
Now you know.
Yes but that could mean that he was in fact......
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:23pm.
Replying to me he didn't quote Sluggo or THE VET he just put it after mine.......
Just so you know................. LOL
STILL LOVE THE TED NUGENT QUOTE!
If he was replying to you
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 12:32pm.
It would have been indented slightly under you comment, not even with it.
eh, never mind.
Clarification
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 8:32pm.
My comment was aimed at SLUGGO, and SLUGGO alone.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
How very kind of you!
Submitted by SLUGGO on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 9:29pm.
A comment aimed at me alone! Is that smartassery enough for you?
This is pathetic. You'll reach for anyone as long as they can say they're not really part of the Hollyweird establishment. The way I see it, he's had 2 sad attempts at new tv shows that got canceled before the first season ended. This guy needs attention because no one wants to see 8 more years of Frazier, as his canceled programs have proven. So he calls himself a conservative and says he wants to run for mayor and everyone gets superduper exited as if he really fits the bill of the conservative. I hope NYers aren't as stupid as Califonrians and adopt an aging actor to act like a politician for a few years. His resume reads like a criminal you would have put away years ago.
Sluggo
Sluggo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 9:46pm.
So, now a qualification for president is not having a t.v. series cancelled? Exactly what did obama do to qualify for president? The need for attention is purely an obama characteristic, trying to shove it on others won't cancel it out in Obama.
Grammar has always been a fiscal conservative. Not saying I have an opinion on his political ambitions, but your comments are to stupid to ignore sometimes.
I think we're discussing a mayoral position
Submitted by SLUGGO on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:35pm.
What do you think about the time he flipped his Viper while drunk and immediately checked himself into Betty Ford? All is forgiven because he didn't kill someone, right?
Sluggo
We were discussing your 50 retread accounts.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 12:17am.
Do you remember that time you started dropping every curse word you could think of because you got exposed as a retread? All is forgiven because you signed up for yet another account with a new name and no history so that gives you the right to act as though you have not spent account after account fishing for information of conservatives so you could harass them and their family out in meatspace?
Now go play with your new friend contrast and pack sand.
Ted Kennedy did kill someone
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 8:01am.
And he ended up being a Senator. Slick Willy committed perjury, and he wasn't removed from office.
Who were we talking about again?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 9:10am.
Oh yeah, Kelsey Grammer.
Sluggo
Enjoying your troll chronic?
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 11:14am.
I saw nothing but a respectful tone from radical1979. And what did she get for the trouble. A snotty antithetical snit that thinks we only have to talk about what it wants to talk about.
I hate trolls but I really really really hate cut and run posters that think they can defend them and then disappear when the troll continues on with its boorish behavoir like it HAS A RIGHT TO TROLL HERE.
Screw you chronic and anyone that looks like you, is related to you, or married into your family. Oh and screw the horse you rode in on too.
Sluggo here
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 2:48pm.
Not chronic. And I don't care who you are either. Wait, radical1979 is a she? Didn't get that from the insurance thread.
Sluggo
He wasn't addressing you, Moron.
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:43pm.
Try to keep up.
"The Vet" replied to my post
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:50pm.
Try to keep up.
Sluggo
The Vet used your post
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 4:20pm.
As an example as why Chronic should STFU.
You are not very bright.
is that so?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 4:30pm.
Why do you reckon the Vet brought up miss radical? did miss radical and chronic interact on this page?
Sluggo
You are an idiot
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:01pm.
Back under the bridge with you.
what is that?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:08pm.
your "finishing" move?
Sluggo
TEDDO
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:17pm.
Is tedious.
- Shy on Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Yup, you're finished
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:21pm.
Your stupidity diplayed throughout this thread.
That does remind me though. You haven't explained why cokehead Grammer = bad; cokehead obama = good.
i've tried cocaine
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:23pm.
look at the results.
Sluggo
Tired, tedious, trollish...
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:31pm.
Teddo.
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
cuckoo bananas
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:33pm.
stop trolling me.
Sluggo
TEDDO
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 5:54pm.
The Hollyweird piss ant that won't go away.
- Shy on Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
In other words
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 12:10pm.
you hold conservatives to a much higher standard than you do liberals. Why is that? Are liberals just amoral to begin with?
Do you also believe that no one can ever be redeemed from their past mistakes? Because at one time Grammar had a drug/alcohol problem he is forever barred from holding public office?
By the way, ever figure out how insurance works?
by the way
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 1:49pm.
ever find that verbiage in obamacare that explains the government's control over our checking accounts?
Sluggo
sluggo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:24pm.
It was there, you have to read what you posted. That wasn't the issue you and I were discussing though. It was that by the government mandating the insurance companies give something away for "free" their costs would go up, which would be passed onto the rest of the policy holders.
miss radical
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:45pm.
you stopped by to post your ROTFLMAO. i figured you had something more to offer. everyone seemingly abandoned the thread after i proved you all wrong. You could end it simply by pointing out the language that proves Jack's wild interpretation, but it's rather difficult when it doesn't actually exist.
But that's not the topic here. in my defense, you did bring it up here.
Sluggo
Sluggo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 10:15pm.
OMG it was written right there in the bill. In the part you posted!! I'm not going to go in and highlight it for you. READ IT YOURSELF!!
miss radical
Submitted by SLUGGO on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:37am.
you can easily put an end to this simply by quoting the text. you know you can't do that because it's complete make believe. and THAT's why you all abandoned the thread. cry me a river, i really couldn't care much less. scratch that, i care less about "the vet's" antagonizing messages, and those oh so kind messages i've received in my inbox.
Sluggo
Quoting text
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:57am.
I'll tell you up front that I'm not going to search for the text but as I remember the issue it wasn't about controlling checking accounts as much as access and surveillance. What I find odd about that is they don’t seem to want to track people getting government supplied/tax payer provided checks now yet with Obamacare we would all be suspect to oversight if in the program.
sluggs
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:39pm.
O.k. you sad little troll, here it is, ‘‘(D) enable the real-time (or near real- time) determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service and, to the extent possible, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician at a specific facility, which may include utilization of a ma- chine-readable health plan beneficiary identification card;
‘‘(E) enable, where feasible, near real-time adjudication of claims;
‘‘(F) provide for timely acknowledgment, response, and status reporting applicable to any electronic transaction deemed appropriate by the Secretary;
Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2011/08/01/cbs-spins-new-...
D and F are the pertinent passages. Give it up.
Waving the white flag on the whole cost increases due to federal mandates thing? You are one sorry little troll.
Mmmmmmmmmmzzzzz. Hear that?
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:04am.
That is a troll reading the minds of everyone here as to why they no longer post in response to a very stupid, very dense lying troll that now includes the intense powers of ESP among his volume of lies.
Sluggo the internet predator AKA Dead Zippers: ...seemingly abandoned the thread after i proved you all wrong.
Yeah, that is it Dead Zippers the sexual miscreant, it had nothing to do with the fact you are once again up to your old tricks of playing last word troll games.
31. Never let your opponents have the last word.
Always get the last word, even if your last "word" is merely a "The sound of a weasel sneezing!" or a disturbing picture, which has the added bonus of inflaming the regulars of a non-binaries group. With this goal in mind keep posting replies to the thread until you have clearly been ignored; keep checking occasionally just to be sure. Sometimes it helps to post your reply as a new thread.
Yeah, monkeypipples getting sick of SluggoDeadZippers piffle posts to chase away all discussion had zero to do with it. That is the ticket. Also Dead Zippers never focused on children through several banned accounts, so much he was told to stop the pedophile style posts. Yep. This is the alternate universe of Dead Zippers where we get to start over with every single account.
Based on your bizarre tirades
Submitted by SLUGGO on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:34am.
i suspect you'd have a hard time proving a thief wrong.
Sluggo
"Wha? Huh? Who?"
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:42am.
The jig's up again, O Master of Deception.
Don't have to prove anyone wrong, I am on my 1st account.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 12:12pm.
First accounters always win.
And you are on your.... Whoops. ...were on your 28th account.
I win again.
I love the smell of burnt troll
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 7:13pm.
any time of day. Nice job, yet again, Vet.
The Vet
Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 9:03pm.
Once again you have cleaned up the trolly mess that is/was/ever shall be Teddy/Zippers/ADK/Sluggo. Many many thanks.
Access Denied. Two of the sweetest words on NB!!
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Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 10:54pm.
You win
In other words
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 12:11pm.
you hold conservatives to a much higher standard than you do liberals. Why is that? Are liberals just amoral to begin with?
Do you also believe that no one can ever be redeemed from their past mistakes? Because at one time Grammar had a drug/alcohol problem he is forever barred from holding public office?
By the way, ever figure out how insurance works?
The Vet has you pegged, cut and run troll.
which standards who?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 1:46pm.
I hold everyone to the same standard.
Sluggo
Sluggo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:25pm.
So no one is allowed to be rehabilitated in any way, or at least not enough to run for public office? Is that your stand?
no
Submitted by SLUGGO on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:48pm.
But before the cheers begin over an actor turned wannabe-politician, one would think the person's past antics would be considered. An overindulgent "actor" is hardly a fiscal conservative and he's not exactly a social conservative, so that leaves his celebrity status as his only appeal.
Sluggo
What do you base
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 10:14pm.
your assertion that he isn't a fiscal conservative on?
Much like The Vet holds all
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 08/03/2011 - 3:29pm.
Much like The Vet holds all Trolls to the same standard.
Well done.
Question
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 11:13pm.
Did America REALLY need a president who's hooked on booze and cocaine?
Pathetic?
Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 08/04/2011 - 10:41pm.
What's pathetic is that you are explosively angry that Mr. Grammer is who he says he is. And you can't even go after his beliefs. You, being the Socialist you are, one who is very intolerant of ANYONE who disagrees with your Statism/Socialism, you have to go after things he did in the past and demand they be considered disqualifying. Very weak, SLUGGO. But then, you have long ago shown us that you are about the worst debater on NB. You are just here to be a smartass and to hurl insults.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
What is a sugar coated Satan
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 08/01/2011 - 4:04pm.
Wrong place!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grammer is astute enough to have pointed out the basic problem
Submitted by no tingly legs on Tue, 08/02/2011 - 10:40am.
with libs everywhere......no knowledge of first grade math.