The Worst of Oprah: Daytime Talk Queen Ends Biased Reign
Talk show pioneer. Best selling author. Incredibly successful business woman. Actress. Philanthropist. Billionaire. "Most influential woman in the world." Oprah Winfrey, the King Midas of her day, is ending her 25-year, multi-award-winning talk show this May, signaling the end of a staple in 21st century television.
But amid all the fawning retrospectives and misty tributes, it's important to remember just who Oprah is, the biased viewpoint she represents and the damage she's done to popular culture.
Before Rosanne Barr called Oprah "the African Mother Goddess of us all," a prominent cultural researcher called her the "Queen of Trash" for the sleazy, exploitative nature of her early show. Since then, the more "uplifting" "Oprah Winfrey Show" has been a more insipid influence, steadily eroding the culture with a combination of weepy emotionalism, New Age spirituality and an embrace of alternative sexualities and gender roles.
She's called a "pregnant man" "normal." She was involved in comedienne Ellen DeGeneres' coming out as a lesbian in the late 90s and has celebrated DeGeneres' "marriage" to another woman. She's said that Michael Moore's anti-Americanism "resonates" with her, pushed for gun control and gushed over Denmark's socialist welfare state. She's attacked not only Sarah Palin, but Palin's daughter Bristol, while raising millions and campaigning for the man she called "The One," Barack Obama.
Now that the "Oprah Winfrey Show" is finished, Oprah has started her OWN network. Sure enough, along with peddling the self-help flavor-of-the-week and more New Age schlock, the network features a documentary series on a sex-change and a planned talk show for far-left 9-11 "Truther" Rosie O'Donnell. Rather than just a show, Oprah now has an entire network to push a liberal agenda.
Ideologue Oprah
While the public takes for granted the liberal views of most celebrities, and come to expect bias in their information or entertainment products, "The Oprah Winfrey Show" has always been up-front in its bias. With the show, Oprah has had the ability - and inclination - to push garden-variety liberal views to a massive audience.
And not just on her show.
Oprah co-founded the Oxygen cable television network in 2000. Shortly after its debut, the network was a proud sponsor of the Million Mom March, an anti-gun, anti-NRA rally held on Mother's Day 2000. The march's founder claimed "All Americans have the right to be safe from gun violence in their homes, neighborhoods, schools, and places of work and worship."
In cozying up to Michael Moore, Oprah came for the gun control, and stayed for the anti-Americanism. In 2003, Winfrey featured the far-left filmmaker as a guest and showed a clip of "Bowling for Columbine," his anti-gun and deeply anti-American film screed. Winfrey admitted that the presentation, "resonated with a lot of people, me included." Moore responded by seriously suggesting in 2005 that Oprah should run for president.
If she did, it's clear what President Winfrey's vision for the nation would be: Denmark. In 2009, Winfrey did a series of shows from the Scandinavian nation whose residents, according to a then-recent survey, were the happiest people in the world.
And who wouldn't be happy in a socialist paradise like this? "Copenhagen is one of the world's most environmentally conscious cities. A third of the population rides bikes, many with groceries and kids in tow," Oprah enthused. "Homelessness and poverty are extremely low here. If you lose your job, the government continues to pay up to 90 percent of your salary for four years. You're never going to be homeless on the street."
Back home, Oprah must content herself with steadily eroding the culture with a combination of weepy emotionalism, New Age spirituality and an embrace of alternative sexualities and gender roles.
Although self-identified gays and lesbians make up just three percent of American adults, they seem to be everywhere in Oprah's world. She relentlessly draws attention to and celebrates them, as when she glowingly interviewed celebrities Ellen DeGeneres and her wife Portia de Rossi. Two women marrying is not normal, but when it's endorsed and promoted by powerful celebrities like Oprah, the cultural line is pushed and the "controversial" suddenly seems normal.
Oprah's pro-gay propaganda isn't limited to her TV show. She uses her magazine as well. A six-page, one-sided narrative about the wonderful world of lesbian love was featured in the March 2009 issue of "O" magazine in a piece titled, "Why Women are Leaving Men for Other Women."
Oprah sought out to redefine 'normal' in a highly anticipated and controversial show in 2008 involving a pregnant "man."
In April 2008, Oprah interviewed Thomas Beatie, a pregnant transgender "man" who clearly still possessed the reproductive parts of a woman, a truth continually ignored by Oprah throughout the exclusive interview. Beatie and her wife Nancy sought to show the world that they comprised a "normal" couple and Oprah was all too willing to accept and promote the lie that a pregnant "man" and "his wife" are "normal."
"Yeah," Winfrey said, "and a new definition of what diversity means for everybody, and redefining normal. And I really applaud you for having the courage to do it."
But Winfrey had another progressive agenda card up her sleeve when interviewing the controversial pregnant couple. At the time, the Beaties just happened to be reading a book called "A New Earth" by Eckhart Tolle, a 2008 Oprah Book Club favorite in which a self-centered new "enlightened mindset" is the underlying theme of the "spiritual" text. Oprah mentioned that the Beaties and their neighbors were reading the text and it was "helping them to wrap their brains around [the pregnancy]." She then slipped nicely into an advertisement for the online class Oprah was taking with Tolle, which she told viewers "they can download anytime."
During that webinar class, Oprah made some statements that drew criticism from traditional Christians. Though calling herself a Christian, Winfrey denied that Jesus was the only way to God. Oprah the theologian also weighed in on the validity of different religious experiences. "God is a feeling experience and not a believing experience. If your religion is a believing experience … then that's not truly God."
According to the Christian Post, Pastor Steven W. Cornell responded that "She holds the trendy idea that religions are essentially the same and that there are many paths that lead to God. She irrationally romanticizes the notion that God can be whatever you want him/her/it to be."
But that's OK with celebrity friends like Rosanne Barr, who bizarrely called Winfrey "the African Mother Goddess of us all," and with an audience eager for spirituality without responsibility.
Partisan Oprah
In 2008, Oprah's liberalism ventured into presidential politics when the talk show queen openly campaigned for presidential candidate and then senator Barack Obama, famously calling him "The One." Though she had long been personally political (donating $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 1996, for example), this was the first time Winfrey had openly endorsed a candidate and it packed a punch.
She held a fundraising dinner for him in September of 2007 and it raised $3 million, followed by a December campaign stop in Iowa, attended by nearly 18,000 people. Oprah, well aware of her power, told Larry King, "I think that my value to him, my support of him, is probably worth more than any check." Still, she gave Obama $2,300 in that campaign.
And even after an economic stagnation, skyrocketing oil prices and high unemployment two years into his presidency, as late as December 2010, Oprah still praised the president, crediting him with rescuing the American economy.
In an interview with Parade magazine, Oprah reaffirmed her support for President Obama telling former ABC correspondent Lynn Sherr, "I think that no one understands until you've been in that seat the enormous pressure to please and satisfy everybody," she said. "And I think instead of being grateful for where we are and what he has done, we've forgotten that we were on the brink of a depression when he took over this office. And as everybody celebrates the holiday season and sits around with their families, regardless of your circumstance, we could've had breadlines. How soon we forget that."
Oprah's partisanship isn't limited to supporting candidates she likes, but also calling out those she doesn't.
Winfrey didn't hide her disdain for 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin when she said that electing Palin would be unwise. In that same December issue of Parade, Sherr asked Oprah if Palin running for office scared her and she replied, "It does not scare me because I believe in the intelligence of the American public."
But Winfrey didn't limit her Palin hit job to only the mama grizzly. In an "In-Touch Weekly" interview on Jan 22, Winfrey mocked Bristol Palin, the teen daughter of the former Alaska governor after she pledged to remain abstinent until marriage. "I kind of bristled," Oprahsaid. " ... I'm just wondering if that is a realistic goal. I think teaching responsibility, teaching, ya know, a sense of judgment about it, but is that a realistic position?"
Oprah further proved her liberal bona fides by offering a massive gift to lefty progressives at Comedy Central: free flights and hotels in DC for Stewart-Colbert Rally. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, popular liberal hosts at Comedy Central, hosted a "Rally to Restore Sanity" in D.C. in October in 2010, an answer to Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally. Oprah appeared on Stewarts' show via satellite and announced, "You're going to the rally! Now get out there and restore some sanity!"
From Trash to …
It's easy to forget that the Oprah brand wasn't always about touch-feely New Age charlatanism. But her show started out peddling a more recognizable form of garbage.
In the late 1980s and early 1990s, "The Oprah Winfrey Show" was one of many exploitive talk shows with their parades of freaks, miscreants and hapless victims. The host would stir the pot, sewing arguments and exposing unseemly intimate details for her voyeuristic audience. Victims of incest, pedophilia and rape have been featured and even fans have thought that this freak-show mantra has gone "too far" and "exploit[s] human suffering."
"I ask this question not to pry in your business but to educate parents in our audience," Oprah once said "trying to get graphic details from a female guest who claims to have been sodomized by her father," according to an article by Penn State Professor Vicki Abt in a critical 1994 article.
That year also brought a perfect example of how "TV talk show hosts never miss a chance to exploit human suffering," as Walt Belcher of the Tampa Tribune wrote at the time. He noted in November 1994 "Maury Povich, Oprah and Sally Jessy Raphael all rushed to Union, S.C. in recent days to soak up the grief surrounding the slayings of little Alexander and Michael Smith." Sadly, taking advantage of tragedies like the lurid story of Susan Smith drowning her own children is what popularized "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
According to the Media Research Center archives, during the week of February 16-19 1988, the daytime talk show topics ran the gamut of sleaze from interbreeding families to people addicted to sex. Here's a list of what daytime talk show viewers were subject to that week:
February 16:
Sally Jesse Raphael: People addicted to sex.
Geraldo: People with X-rated pasts.
Donahue: Techniques, attitudes and secrets of being a good lover.
Oprah Winfrey: Rekindling passion in a marriage.
February 17:
Oprah Winfrey: Satanic worship.
Home: A priest who moonlights as a professional wrestler.
February 18:
Geraldo: What women really want from men in bed.
February 19:
Oprah Winfrey: Families who interbreed.
There doesn't appear to be much difference between the media queen and her competition.
A Huffington Post article, "Oprah's Final Season: The 25 Most-Watched Episodes," provides a few more gems:
#14: The Other Side of the Betty Broderick Story (November 3, 1992) "Seven months after her interview with Betty Broderick, the woman convicted of murdering her husband and his second wife, Oprah revisited the story and gave a voice to the youngest victims: Kim and Dan, the Broderick children."
#11: When the Wife Meets the Other Woman (February 20, 1989) "This episode featuring a classic daytime TV topic aired on the Monday after one of Oprah's all-time most-memorable shows: Alaskan bachelors who were looking for brides."
#7: Why I Love Older Women (February 15, 1993) "Think the term 'cougars' was invented for Ashton and Demi? Oprah tackled the topic of older women who date younger men back in 1993. In the show - which included a phone call with Cher - a guest named Vinnie had the quote of the day: "It's the difference between riding in a Volkswagen and a Cadillac," he said. "If you want to ride in a Volkswagen, go ahead. If you want the Cadillac, go for an older woman."
#4: I Killed My Ex and His Wife: Betty Broderick (March 2, 1992) "In her first interview after being convicted in the murder her ex-husband and his second wife, Betty Broderick opened up to Oprah about why she did it. In 1992, Betty's story was later turned into a two-part made-for-TV movie starring Meredith Baxter."
Then, in 1994, after being called out by Apt (who subsequently was a guest on the show), Oprah famously shifted her focus, claiming she wanted her show to be "uplifting."
Apt wrote with Leonard Mustazza in their 1997 book, "Coming After Oprah":
"After eight seasons of being the 'Queen of Trash,' Oprah Winfrey herself joined the rising tide against the genre she that she created, recently lamenting the explosion in copycat talk shows that encourage people to brag about their irresponsible behaviors. Of course, this public change of heart after the damage has been done is really quite in keeping with talk-show formats and the electronic 'confessional' in general."
In operation, the new tone meant including more of the aforementioned New Age talk, the regular appearance of therapists like Dr. Phil, and the freaks, miscreants and hapless victims would from then on be former freaks, miscreants and hapless victims. "Overcoming," became a constant theme. The Wall Street Journal coined the word Oprahfication to describe "public confession as a form of therapy."
But even if you accept that the new show was an improvement, she hasn't been above reverting to sleaze when convenient, like in sweeps months.
Trisha Stewart Shiu, a Yahoo! contributing writer, said the following in a piece titled "The Top 5 Worst Topics on Oprah:"
"Oprah has been and remains an advocate for victims around the world. And although these topics were all explored in the name of education and enlightenment - due to the disturbing nature or just plain boredom - viewers have been forced to turn off their beloved program or not watch at all … Oprah's has changed the face of daytime television. Her support and kindness toward victims of every type makes her a beloved icon. Sometimes, though, she goes too far."
One of the topics that made Shiu's list was "Twin Incest Victims."
Too far with the choice of guests and the sympathy, and too far with careless words. April of 1996 found Oprah in hot water after she allegedly caused cattle futures to crash following a controversial episode about mad cow disease dubbed "Oprah's Beef with Beef." After hosting her mad cow segment declared it 'stopped [her] cold from eating another burger.' Within 24 hours of the show airing, cattle futures crashed and Winfrey was eventually sued by a group of Texas cattle farmers for $12 million. Oprah won.
And if "The Oprah Winfrey Show" mostly managed to raise its tone, some other Oprah offerings have remained firmly in the gutter.
In 2009, Oprah's film and television studio HARPO, teamed up with HBO to release a raunchy television pilot about a California woman who leaves her husband and children to pursue her "secret fantasies and desires" in the "underbelly of L.A." Winfrey was slated to be an executive producer of the sexually charged series, but it appears the series was eventually canned as there is no trace of a series of that nature ever making it to production.
On Her OWN
The pomp and circumstance surrounding her last show hasn't gone unnoticed as outlets like the Huffington Post have wondered aloud how she will conclude "a show that engineered a media empire."
More interesting is how Oprah's begun a network that takes all the elements of her show and runs with them 24 hours a day. OWN includes shows in which average people try to overcome their addiction to food, in which celebrities (Shania Twain, Sarah Ferguson) shamelessly wallow in their personal troubles, and something called "Master Class," in which Oprah and other celebrities tell the audience how they should live.
Then, of course, there's "Becoming Chaz," a documentary following the progress of Sonny & Cher's daughter Chastity in becoming a man ("Chaz"). OWN invites viewers to "Follow Chaz on his deeply inspirational and personal journey."
In fall 2011, Chaz will be joined by Rosie. Rosie O'Donnell, the actress and talk show host will begin hosting a new talk show on OWN, taping at Oprah's Harpo Studios in Chicago. O'Donnell is an outspoken left-winger and lesbian activist who feted disgraced anti-Semitic reporter Helen Thomas, compared Wisc. Governor Scott Warner to Egyptian dictator Hasni Mubarak and called Sarah Palin ignorant. And in 2007 on ABC's "The View," O'Donnell proved herself well-versed in 9-11"truther" theories, if not metallurgy, declaring 9-11 to be the "first time in history that fire melted steel."
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Comments
Oprah's leaving TV ... This is terrible news!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:13am.
But on to other more important things: Now let's see... where did I leave my car keys?
- Grump :o)
Of course, this "review" of
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:22am.
Of course, this "review" of the "damage" Oprah has done isn't biased at all, right?
I don't think Oprah is unassailable, but I don't think she's caused any real damage to America, either.
And I'm not sure "mocked" is the right word re: Bristol.
This just seems like a lot of effort to portray Oprah as some horrible force of nature.
"but I don't think she's
Submitted by NC Cop on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:25am.
"but I don't think she's caused any real damage to America, either."
Wrong. She helped Obama get elected, that's doing enough damage in and of itself.
Meh. We're still here. These
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:28am.
Meh. We're still here. These four years were going to stink no matter who was in office, IMO.
Oprah is merely a media phenomenon
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:12pm.
She had something to sell, and millions of folks -- mainly white women -- were enthralled with her. Oprah was energized by her celebrity and prosperity, and made herself into one of the richest business women in the world. Did it go to her head? Sure. Self-indulgent? Yes.
While I have no fondness for Oprah and the cult, she took advantage of the opportunities that came her way and did it all legally (as far was we know). If you want to blame anyone, blame her audience.
yep.
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:21pm.
You pretty much nailed it.
That's a good summation. Her
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 4:06pm.
That's a good summation. Her following was monstrous.
Wanna know who else was monstrous.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 12:19am.
Those 2 cop killers you chose to show your love crushes on. When are you going to show us your evidence they are innocent? Or you gonna keep those poor cop killers in jail while the evidence rots in your closet?
Yer ugly. Another beating can't make things worse.
Submitted by pockets64 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:16pm.
We really could be doing better, but
we've spent trillions on so-called "stimulus" programs.
We've dug deeper into gutting our military while getting involved in a third concurrent war (illegal and unnecessary at that).
We've alienated and attacked our allies and cozied up to our enemies.
We have had contracts between private individuals and organizations unconstitutionally broken by the White House.
We've had the unconstitutional health care "reform" law shoved down our throats.
We've had an official White House post created to track down and "address" anti-Obama Internet postings.
My goodness! My dead dog could have done better.
In No Particular Order
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:27pm.
Let's look at the second worst case scenario: Hillary in the Oval Office.
Don't
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:56pm.
Don't fool yourself. They are both George Soros employees bent on destroying the US Constitution by 2014. That's their plan and they're sticking to it....
Not sure about #1, Strat.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:01pm.
Link.
But everything else looks good.
SoL and Adam: Maybe so,
Submitted by stratman on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:23pm.
SoL and Adam:
Maybe so, guys. I hope we do not find out in ~2 to 6 years.
Meh
Submitted by MightyMouth on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:36pm.
Is pretty much the problem, and you my friend are a typical perp.
I don't think everything's
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 1:11pm.
I don't think everything's hunky-dory or anything like that. I'm saying that Obama hasn't done any irreparable harm. I'm underwhelmed by the guy.
But it hasn't been "the end of America" as hysterical people have wanted to proclaim.
We haven't yet begun to feel
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 1:16pm.
We haven't yet begun to feel the effects of the Obama administration. They will resonate through this country for years to come. Wait and see.
So even if the next
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 2:26pm.
So even if the next Republican president stinks, it'll be Obama's fault, much the same way that Democrats are saying that Obama's struggles are Bush's fault?
partly in jest
Submitted by Tomorama on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:29am.
I have no beef with Oprah as I have never watched 5 minutes of her "show" as unlike most of her audience I work for a living and pay my own bills.............................................
I respect her because I believe in Capitalism and her "product" sold and sold better than anyone else's.
Now do I want to take her money and "spread the wealth"?
Of course not, she isn't an old white guy demon...........
She sure hasnt
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 5:08pm.
done anything to HELP America either. And btw, if it's true, it isnt biased.
Totally disagree. If nothing
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 6:06pm.
Totally disagree. If nothing else, she created a whole new wave of avid book readers.
...or as we call them, Oprahbots.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 6:15pm.
.
Amigo...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:39pm.
You are such a sissy! And I mean that in the most unflatteringway possible. :-)
OWN is locked out on my Dish
Submitted by IgnatzJFahrquar on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:47am.
Other than news popping up on NB, Drudge, etc. I don't following anything about the woman. OWN is locked out on my Dish setup so I don't even accidentally bump into it.
Just go away already.
Returning to the Trough
Submitted by Utherpend on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:52am.
I give her two years and she will have another show on network TV when her network fails, sort of like Rosie Odonnells grand scheme to remake the talk scene.
I like Oprah
Submitted by SueDi on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:09pm.
Okay. I'm a conservative but I like Oprah. I've said it. So there. Yes, she has a very liberal view of the world but for the most part has remained "neutral" on sharing her political beliefs. Of course she voted for Barrack Obama and campaigned for him - he's black - duh! But, she also had George Bush and Laura Bush on television. Maybe you don't know anyone who is gay, or maybe you don't have a gay family member, but anyone who does understands reality and how nature works. They know that gay is not a choice for most people. You're going to deny that person equal rights because of their sexual preference that has NOTHING to do with you? Don't preach the old testament to me. The New Testament, the new covenant, says the second greatest rule is to love one another. Tolerance. Love. Acceptance. You think Christ or God doesn't love a person who is gay? Certainly they do. Certainly they do not want them to be ostracized from life or church or others. I've thought hard on this. I do not believe that the gov't has the right to dictate who can marry and who can't. Oprah has gone where no one else dared tread on a variety of subjects. Over all, she has been a force for good for all, but especially for women because women have been treated like second citizens in some countries. Her program has spanned 150 countries. A formidable force for good. Thank you, Oprah!
Gay Agenda...
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:27pm.
It's not gays people dislike, it's Gay Militancy that people are tired of having rammed down their throats(no pun intended). The way the media has been porttaying the "Gay Rights" movement for the last 40 years makes it sound like the American Public used to sacrifice hundreds a day to the Sun God a la the Aztecs. Two homophobic drunken teenagers kill one homosexual every thirty years and it turns to mass hysteria. There's been gay people for all of civilization, and this is the only society stupid enough to believe that the wearing of wedding bands is going to "normalize" them into society. The sad news for them is no one will ever consider 1% of the population as being the norm over the other 99%. Go to any middle school recess ground and kids still use not so nice gay perjoratives as insults to each other. For some assclown like Oprah to just believe whatever she says will be reality is to believe your own BS, which said Assclown went down that rabbit hole many moons ago. Oprah was always one of those Libtards whom could never even consider what she was saying is wrong. She's her own biggest cult follower. She couldn't use logic to help her out of a paper bag. The woman is an uneducated dolt whom was held aloft by guilt ridden whites. It's no deeper than that....
AdamSmith
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:56pm.
couldn't have said it better! Awesome.
but ...
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:00pm.
gays and lesbians do face bullying and discrimination at alarmingly high rates and it's partly because society does not accept them as "normal." I'm not an Oprah fan ... I haven't watched her show since the 1990s, but I like that she at least tries to break down the sterotypes so that her typical viewer can start to see gay/lesbian couples as normal, everyday people. I don't like the militant approach either, but I'd hardly term an Oprah show as "militant." And viewers always have the choice of changing the channel if they don't want to watch.
I don't even think I would call Oprah overly liberal. Sure, she likes Obama and Michael Moore, but after attending Jeramiah Wright's church in Chicago a few times, she left and never went back saying she didn't agree with Wright's overall message (if you never knew that, don't kick yourself, the media kind of ignored that story).
In the end, who cares if she's super-liberal, uneducated or flat out wrong on some issues? If you don't like her message or her show, turn it off.
What equal rights (plural)
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 5:09pm.
are gays missing out on?
The absolute worst thing
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:15pm.
Oprah has done is the deception she has perpetrated on the gullible lemmings in her audience concerning religion. She has mocked Christianity, and turned thousands of her lemmings into new age "spiritualists". The great John MacArthur said it best when he referred to Oprah as the most dangerous person in America.
Winfrey's unholy reign
Submitted by j17ghs on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:30pm.
Winfrey’s talk show featured so-called psychologists, sociologists and media pundits whose covert purpose was to work as society’s gatekeepers, reshaping and redefining public opinion and social norms. They presented the agenda so that it wrongly suggested a basis in understanding and compassion. Winfrey also tended toward reckless encouragement of whimsical pursuits for women that must have led to untold problems for families and finances. This likely was by socialists' desire for destructive design. Christine Northrup, author of The Wisdom of Menopause, was a guest on Oprah Winfrey’s show, and Northrup suggested women sleep for up to 15 hours at a time “as a beauty treatment.” Any inconvenience to others went unnoted. Winfrey only blurted out, “But what about my dog?” (Maybe one day someone will write a book, The Wisdom of 'Roid Rage.)
Yes I can see why it would
Submitted by Semus on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:35pm.
Yes I can see why it would seem that someone writing what Oprah Winfrey or anyone who's disingenuous actually did was biased. This is the biggest problem a person on the hard left has, when someone simply writes the truth about them and their accomplishments it's an attack because it can be nothing else.
I think there's a distinction between liberals* and the hard left, most people who are very liberal are I truly well intentioned they may even consider themselves left or left leaning but they are reall misinformed and or misdirected "Useful Idiots", whereas the hard left is not necessarily well intentioned and they are by no means misinformed, it's their belief certain goals must be reached at any cost.
*This really brings another thought to mind, what is called liberal now a days, aren't really liberal, true liberals are libertarians.
Big Difference
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:12pm.
The Founding Fathers were "Enlightenment Classical Liberals". As in throwing off the chains of Tyranny for the individual man to have the most worth.
Today's "Liberals" are "Progressive Liberals" whom are Marxist in philosophical derivation. The individual must be all he can for the Collective...
Libertarians can lean anywhere from Progressive to Anarchist on the political spectrum. Most lean philisophically towards the Founders and Constitution, where the Constitution is the Law of the Land and cannot be thought of as a "Living Document"
Today's "Liberals" should join and move into Communes to show the rest of us Neanderthals how we should live Communally. The "Share and Share Alike" mode of living. We'll see how that works out. Actually, thinking about it now, that should be a required credit class for all graduating University students. See how all that Hope and Change sounds after putting all that Socialist Utopia to the test....
Ah, communes
Submitted by SueDi on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:47pm.
Communes were established in the USA during the hippie era. Many, in fact. Israel had communes, too. What these "commune-ists" found out - Its' not a viable way to live. Russia found out the hard way too, didn't they? Share and share alike (except for the rulers) doesn't work. Oh, it works for those in power who get preferential treatment, perks, privilege, but it certainly doesn't work for the rest of the population. Isn't it amazing that the left simply can't give up the dream of a truly share and share alike community? I hate that they are undermining our way of life.
Libertarians, Progressives, Anarchists
Submitted by Semus on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:50pm.
I don't agree with some of what you wrote. Libertarians aren't anarchists or progressive at least I don't think they are. Anarchists want no government or anarchy, libertarians believe in the necessity of government, just a good deal less. I also think the terms progressive and libertarian are mutually exclusive if you're one you can't be the other. Can give me an example of where they overlap such that the core philosophies would match? Maybe I should have used the term progressive to begin with, but I decided to stick with liberal, for whatever reason, I thought I heard that the term progressive is now what so called "liberals call themselves. Oh well who knows.
I agree with the definition of classical Liberal and how you categorized the today's liberal as opposed to classical liberal.
As I've always said, "Oprah
Submitted by marpel on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:32pm.
As I've always said, "Oprah is nothing but a fat racist". I'm glad the stupid talk show ended, and I don't watch OWN. All it is is programming that Oprah wants to see, not what I want to see.
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."
Her time has passed!
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:41pm.
And with signing on "talent" like Fat Rosefed O'Donuts, Rosanne Barf, and still singing the praises of The Annointed One, its no wonder she exposed herself as just another liberal full of sh*t phony!
Oprah's shelf life...
Submitted by KyWriter on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 12:42pm.
...is coming to an end. She had made enough money to fund her own network, but she will not have the clout she had when she was the darling of repressed liberals everywhere as her reign began. She has now committed the most deadly broadcasting sin of all: taking herself seriously. Her slide into irrelevance will take a while, but it's inevitable and it won't be pretty.
Oprah jumped the shark.
Submitted by gobnait06 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:09pm.
The Golden Age of Oprah has long since passed. She will morph into an aging 'movie-queen', living in her moldy mansions, talking to her dogs and shining her Emmys all in a row on the mantel. Her new network is a heaping serving of more-of-the-same and, while it will continue to appeal to her hard-core followers, the majority moved on years ago. As for the damage she has inflicted, I'd say it's evident. We have a couple of generation of folks who can't manage their own lives and make important decisions without her imperious, sanctimonious input. She gave advice with impunity on marriage and children with absolutely NO personal experience or expertise in either subject and has gotten positively weird with some of her endeavors. With the broad reach of her media machine, she has, at the very least, affected many of the pillars of our culture and not always in a good way. Her Obamaesque magnetism seems almost cult-like and I, for one, am happy to see her go.
Just for the sake of discussion...
Submitted by on-the-rocks on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 8:51am.
How would you compare Oprah's adverse cultural effects with those of Hugh Hefner and the "Playboy Philosophy"? I would think that Hefner's effects are more subtle and longer-term, as he has been around since the mid-1950s.
Thoughts?
Oprah is a private citizen
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 1:17pm.
She has a right to believe whatever political issues she wishes. She has a right to use her show to spread her beliefs. I respect her right to believe whatever she wants - it's part of what makes America a great place. I don't agree with her on everything, but I appreciate that she is passionate about certain issues and wishes to share those views. I am confident in my own political beliefs that I am not threatened when someone like Oprah endorses Obama or promotes a Michael Moore movie.
I also don't mind that she supports gay marriage and uses her show to promote it. This is an area where conservatives need to be more accepting and get with the times. Many conservatives have gay family members who we love and we have learned to be more accepting on this issue. When Newsbusters runs an article saying "Two women marrying is not normal, but when it's endorsed and promoted by powerful celebrities like Oprah, the cultural line is pushed and the "controversial" suddenly seems normal" it is hurtful to those of us who have conservative political beliefs yet love relatives who are gay or lesbian. Newsbusters, when you write sentences like that, you do more harm to society than Oprah did. Instead of promoting the idea of loving and accepting gay or lesbian couples who might be your neighbors, your coworkers, your relatives, etc., you are promoting that they are not normal. Teaching people that gays and lesbians are normal, everyday people (who simply have a different lifestyle), as Oprah does, helps keep instances of bigotry and bullying down. Articles like y ours, ensures that that gays and lesbians will continue to face bigotry, bullying etc.
Many of us conservatives are Christian, and we are instructed by our Christian faith to love and accept everyone, regardless of whatever life choices they make. We don't have to like what others do but we should love them anyway.
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference."
You are WRONG
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:03pm.
"Many of us conservatives are Christian, and we are instructed by our Christian faith to love and accept everyone, regardless of whatever life choices they make. We don't have to like what others do but we should love them anyway."
We are NOT taught to accept sinful behavior. Love the sinner? Yes! Accept the sin? NO! Jesus did NOT accept sinful behavior - He called on the sinners to repent and sin no more. Find me a single verse in the Bible that says " love and accept everyone, regardless of whatever life choices they make". Your concept of Christianity has fallen victim to the new age "can't we all get along" liberal philosophies of heretics like Rob Bell and Oprah Winfrey.
that sin
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:31pm.
is between the sinner and God ... it has nothing to do with you and me. Your role is simply to love that person, not try to change them or save them. They have to come to that on their own. That's not liberal thinking ... that's years of studying the Bible and learning to overcome personal biases so that I can live the life of love that Jesus intended for me to live.
Wrong again
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:46pm.
Oprah really has gotten to you, hasn't she? You talk about living the life of love Jesus intended for you to live. Is it loving to see someone living in sin and say nothing to them? That's not love. That's being a coward. That's hanging them out to dry. You may have overcome your personal biases against sin, but God hasn't. Again, please cite scripture to back up your silly liberal theology.
I do not watch Oprah
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:57pm.
Look, obviously nothing I can say will change your mind. I respect your beliefs. I respect your right to believe what you want and to interpret the Bible the way you want.
Just so you know where I am coming from (again, not an Oprah fan), and perhaps you have never been challenged in your life, but a close family member of mine is gay. I love her dearly and can not find it in my heart to reject her because of her belief. Counsel her yes; expect her to change, no. Incidently, she is also a Christian and has her own relationship with God. Her belief and my belief are different, but we love and respect each other anyway. Imagine that. What a lovely world it would be if everyone lived life in that way, simply accepting one another and respecting their choices. But if you wish to believe that God is happier with you for your belief system, than He would be with mine, again, I respect your right to believe what you want. Now, it's your turn to respect my right to believe what I believe.
Let me put it another way
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:09pm.
I understand where you are coming from too. I know Gay people, and I pray for their salvation every day. The problem is in the concept of being "accepting" of sin. If you don't agree that homosexual behavior is sin, then we don't need to take the discussion any further. If you can cite one example of scripture that says homosexual activity is acceptable, then I will gladly change my beliefs. I am not interested in what any person thinks. I am interested in what God says.
but it's not what you or I think that matters
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:31pm.
it's ultimately up to God to either forgive the person of their sin or not ... and we both know that God forgives much bigger sins than homosexuality. (and yes, personally, I think it is a sin, but I respect that many others do not think it is a sin - it's a question of interpretation).
Like it or not, homosexuality is a fact of life. It's been with us throughout written history and there is little you or I can say or do that will prevent a gay/lesbian loved one, friend, neighbor, etc. from following that lifestyle. All we can do is try to lead them to God (if they're not there already) and the rest is between them and God. All we can do is be loving and accepting .... and maybe stop with the gay bashing.
Look, you and I are not going to see eye-to-eye on this one. I can live with that. Can you?
So let me understand...
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:47pm.
You think that Homosexuality is a sin. But you respect the fact that others don't view it that way. In other words, we now get to decide what is sin and what isn't. That's been mankind's problem since the garden of eden. If homosexuality is a sin, as you say you believe, and sin is what separates us from God, then you would rather see someone go to hell than point out their sin to them? It doesn't sound like you love then very much.
Oh my goodness
Submitted by MissMinPhx on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 4:04pm.
Yes, this is America and people are still free to believe whatever religion they want or no religion at all if that suits them. Christianity is open to multiple interpretations and there are some Christian churches that even accept homosexuality. Yes, because of the way my church interprets the Bible, I do believe homosexuality is a sin, but I also respect that not all churches or believers see it that way. I also know it is not up to me to condemn or punish the sinner. That's up to God and honestly, I don't think He needs mine or your help. And although I do believe homosexuality is a sin, I believe in a loving and forgiving God. I never said I thought that gays or lesbians went to Hell. Personally, I hope Hell is reserved for the real bad guys who rape, murder, or make life miserable for the rest of us and are unrepentant about it - but I'm sure you'll disagree with me on that one too. The beauty of America is we can all believe what we want. I respect your right to see it your way. I'll see it mine. On this issue, let's just agree to disagree. :))
In closing
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 5:51pm.
I admire your loving attitude and your desire to change the world for the better. But remember that forgiveness of sin by God is preceded by repentance. Without repentance there is no forgiveness, because without repentance, there is no acknowledgment of sin. And Christianity is not a religion... it's a relationship with the creator of the universe. Have a blessed day!
MissMinPhx & Lord-come-soon---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 8:32pm.
An enjoyable exchange of posts between the two of you; obvious personal feelings shared, but such politeness and respect does not go unnoticed.
Very nice job!
MD
Glad you said that Matthew, I
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 8:54am.
Glad you said that Matthew, I was going to post the same thing. I actually find myself agreeing with points on both sides. A good example of what discussion should be.
NC Cop---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 9:50pm.
I just wish I could be a bit more charitable in my dealings with libs and trolls.
I want to be with all you good guys for eternity. :o)
MD
I get it now..."you believe
Submitted by msh1973 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:41pm.
I get it now..."you believe what you want and I will believe what I want" and we will all be happy.
All of us are sinners
Submitted by SueDi on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:53pm.
So you say you DON'T sin? Yes, love the sinner. God accepts the sin, not you.
God accepts the sin?
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 5:34pm.
explain that please
Love one another
Submitted by SueDi on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:50pm.
Thank you for such a testament to the Christian faith. It shouldn't be about intolerance but tolerance, love, caring, giving. God Bless.
tolerance?
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 6:13pm.
Tolerance of sin? Give me an example of God's tolerance of sin.
Keith Olbermann is still alive.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 6:18pm.
.
Are you for real?
Submitted by msh1973 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:38pm.
Are you for real?
Good Riddance
Submitted by Funbowhunter on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 2:03pm.
Now maybe some of those others will go as well.
Ever since the day
Submitted by StarAZ on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:12pm.
Ever since the day Oprah confided that Vogue let her "keep" the dress she wore on the cover and invited us poor schlubs in TVland to enthuse over how wonderful that was (just buy it if you want it), i could not stand Oprah. She is a crafty billionaire feeding off women's feelings of inadequacy. The average woman working at church, ferrying the kids around, soothing her husband, earning a full-time income to boot, does more for society that Oprah. Then when she started cooing over Obama, it was almost unbearable. At least even she could not lose weight and keep it off even with trainers and surgeons posing as nutritionists, etc. That was a positive contribution anyway!
You don't know me, StarAZ,
Submitted by msh1973 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:35pm.
You don't know me, StarAZ, but I will take that as a compliment (about the average working wife and mother). Crazy that Oprah has been held at such high esteem by millions of women.
Oprah the egomaniac
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:41pm.
I'll never forget when she had her "black and white" party. All the guests had to where black and white, while she wore red.
How anyone could admire her after that was beyond me. Oh, and the party was for herself.
Goodby
Submitted by jessieH on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:09pm.
"Thank GOD and Greyhound, she's gone!
What's an oprah?
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 3:56pm.
What's an oprah?
What's my sister-in-law to do?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 4:34pm.
She relies on Oprah to tell her what to think, what to read, how to decorate, you name it. What will the sheeple do without Oprah to guide them?
HAHAHAHA
They may have to think for themselves!
Don't laugh Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 6:54pm.
Take this opportunity to lead her out of the darkness and into the light of critical thinking and conservatism...I know you can do it Ms Rad cause you are faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and can leap tall buildings at a single bound...;-)
Thanks Cajun
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:39pm.
But this one is irretrievable. My brother (her husband) is the one who told me the Tea Party was racist. There are those who simply cannot be saved cajun.
Did I mention she watches Jersey Shore?
Oops Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:44pm.
We just have to accept futility in some efforts. Save your strength for the coming troll tsunami.
cajun
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 10:51pm.
"troll tsunami", I like that! LOL
See above thread
Submitted by Lord-come-soon-... on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 5:36pm.
Oprah has done a lot of damage, and being the know all master of time space and dimension to all those lemmings may be the worst of it.
There's always the magazine.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 6:14pm.
You know, the one where Okra is always the pretty pretty cover girl.
(Except for that one time she had a photo of a sasquatch on it)
Well, Rad, there's always
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 7:50am.
Well, Rad, there's always "The View."
Is she gone yet???
Submitted by PrairieSky on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 9:07pm.
I actually used to like Oprah...Way back in the early years of her show, I was a fairly loyal viewer. That began to change when the "Oprah" cult began to form, and her new age, libnut social nonsense started...That's when she lost me. And, this woman has what has to be the l-o-n-g-e-s-t goodbye from a show that I've ever seen in my life...The endless rosy retrospectives and accolades from people and celebrities far and wide have been enough to make me gag.
Enough already, Oprah...we get it...you're leaving, and we all know it...So leave already...Geez.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Anti-white Female
Submitted by WVDino on Tue, 05/24/2011 - 11:14pm.
In 1996, Oprah was promoting the movie Waiting to Exhale as the movie to see with your girlfriends. She should have been more specific, the movie to see with your African-America girlfriends. Part of it was entertaining but there was so much I could not relate too. It portrayed white women in a negative light (the other woman, teenage girl caught with teenaged son, etc.) The mother of Whitney Houston's character was living on welfare and upset Whitney ended her affair with a married man. Whitney Houston's character was very successful but did not help her mother.
After seeing the movie on her recommendation, I was never influenced by her opinion again. I should add this was before I became a conservative.
She showed her true colors again with the way she treated both Hillary and Sarah.
Are you kidding me?
Submitted by blazermaniac on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 12:10am.
Oprah is leaving TV? I never knew she had one, to start with. I never saw it, so she couldn't have had a show. Test Patterns would make better programs, than anything she could do.
I'm going to channel my inner
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 12:13am.
I'm going to channel my inner Al Bundy here, but the main problem with Oprah is that she encourages women to be shallow and superficial. Oprah isn't pushing a Leftwing ideology onto people: she's promoting shallowness and superficiality. Since liberalism is defined by its absence of substance, she ends up promoting liberalism because that's all that exists when you are pushing an agenda with no substance.
My mom has mentioned she stopped watching Oprah during her legal problems with beef because Oprah referred to herself as "a nappy headed girl trying to get justice down in Texas". In other words, she was playing the race card and saying that white people aren't capable of delivering justice when a black person is the defendant.
Another thing I remember was the time I was at a party about 4 years ago and out in the front yard. My friend's future wife came out and said that someday we'd (meaning all of us in Florida) would be underwater because of Global Warming. She said she heard that on Oprah.
The other things I remember about Oprah was her bringing out a wagon full of fat, and speaking to someone who had a near death experience that came back and said that your religion doesn't matter. Oprah turned to the camera and said "Did you hear that? It doesn't matter!"
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Chris Matthews: The Joy Behar of MSNBC.
Bill Maher: The Joy Behar of HBO.
Paul Krugman: The Joy Behar of The New York Times.
I tried
Submitted by bmac32 on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 12:30am.
Several years ago I tried watching it but found it stupid, not every funny and most guests not very informant.
I do blame her for Obama where millions of white women were turned onto the idea a black president was just what this country needed to break race relations. Now look at the way things are, BETTER, where? I look around and see nothing better!
Oprah Windbag
Submitted by Less1leg on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 3:16am.
This woman is the most vindictive massive Affirmative Action Machine in our western hemisphere. MSM needed an African American female figure to push the liberal agenda to new heights, and Oprah Windbag met those goals. Western MSM was being attacked by the liberal media because of the lack of "black faces" being seen on network tv broadcasts. Other than token maids, or washboy, Yes suh, no suh segments. Western media didn't have Africian American faces on TV. Oprah was the nice chubby hair wash lady down the corner at the Hair Dresser Shop. She was the kindly sort, who gossiped and flirted about the outskirts of Female discussion groups. She fit in perfectly to the immerging modern women's group hug session. And Oprah exploited it once she found that opening. She found that she didn't have to follow the traditional talk show host approach to success. She already had the formula, Women's high school, college, hair styling shop gingoism success story. She even talks about her success formula, Women talking like women, about women, and for women. All innuendo, and all gossip. How could you go wrong. Women lap this crap up.
But there's one item the MSM fail to address about Oprah, she is highly secretive about herself, her ambitions, and her lengths she will push the buttons on others. Her school in Africa was a failure. Her long time secretive world of Steadman, her secretive world of involvement with Ms. Gale. And her lies about her past. Oprah has a mean streak.
and you base this all on....
Submitted by theduck6 on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 6:48am.
what? Every move the President has made was promised to improve the problem and has not. He says it was worse than he thought and only takes credit for things that can be spun as positives or are manipulated to appear to be spontanoeus upticks.
1. unemployment is higher (even the massaged U3 )
2. stocks are even through purchases by the Fed etc
3.housing is down
4. dollar is worth far less
5. oil prices are way up for a variety of reasons to include the previous
6. we are not thought of any better in the world to include the arab world (we were promised that by the sycophantic press
7. he's alienated our 2 biggest allies in the world (UK and Israel)
we are going to have to bite the bullet for the spending of both parties over decades but printing trillions, spending trillions and handcuffing our energy policy while aiding other countries is not going to improve our situation.
What was it that Sol Alinsky and Cloward and Piven said (Clinton and Obama mentors)?
"You have to collapse a system before you can install your new regime" (p)
IOW undercut capitalism, cause it to fail and blame it on capitalism and point to socialism and Marxism as the answer. nevermind it has never worked but the MSM will lap it up and disseminate the propaganda gleefully.
PS this was not placed below the post it was responding to. sheeesh!
I used to watch Oprah
Submitted by BubbaJ on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 7:05am.
I used to watch Oprah when she worked for WJZ in Baltimore. She had this show called "People are Talking". And then I followed her fairly regularly when she started her show in Chicago. I was a stay-at-home mom with small children, so I was able to watch most days.
I'll never forget a show she did that had something to do with raising children. Some woman in the audience stood up to the microphone and said that she loved all her kids equally. Well, Oprah proceeded to lecture the woman about how it was not possible to love her kids equally because they were all different. I remember thinking that the woman looked really uncomfortable, and I felt sorry for her. I knew what she meant because I had kids too.
Anyway, that was pretty much it for me after that. Here was a woman with NO KIDS lecturing another woman WITH KIDS about how she felt about her children. How arrogant! That was the moment when I knew that Oprah's fame had completely gone to her head.
I tried watching a few more time times after that over the years. I couldn't stand that woman Marianne whats-her-face and her new age Christianity that Oprah had on all the time. Since then I have never again watch her show. That was the last straw.
Oprah and children
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 7:43am.
I remember Oprah talking about children saying they were "little people" and that they all these rights. What she was really saying is that they were little adults whose parents had limited rights.
As anyone who has children knows, childless people have no concept of what child rearing entails. Such people should be seen and not heard on the subject.
Exactly!
Submitted by BubbaJ on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 9:06am.
"What she was really saying is that they were little adults whose parents had limited rights."
OMG, yes! You are exactly right.
welll finally!
Submitted by Patriot II on Wed, 05/25/2011 - 10:44am.
Good riddance!!