ABC Shortchanges Christians on Sunday

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Eckhart TolleABC World News Sunday gave face time to supporters of divisive spiritual teacher Eckhart Tolle, but brushed over those “Christians” who say Tolle is ‘dangerous.’”

The Feb. 15th broadcast of ABC’s Sunday evening news featured Eckhart Tolle, a widely touted spiritual leader to stars such as Cher and Paris Hilton. While his books have, with Oprah’s help, sold more than 10 million copies, many Christians believe his teaching on “spiritual awakenings” is dangerous.

“Paris Hilton took his book with her to prison,” reporter Dan Harris quipped. “Cher swears by him… so does Meg Ryan. Oprah Winfrey even hosted an unprecedented ten-part online series with him.” Viewers were treated to videos of Tolle’s superstar supporters and crowds of people listening intently with Harris saying, “His many fans say he has changed their lives.” But when Tolle’s Christian opposition is briefly mentioned, the segment literally takes a dark turn.

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Tolle’s critics were reduced to “some Christians” who were represented on screen by a dark stained-glass window of the Madonna and child. According to Harris, the “Christians” say Eckhart’s beliefs are not “compatible with the Bible,” and that he is “promoting the doctrines of demons,” The preceding text emerged on screen over a fiery, red page with flames appearing on the sides of the screen.

Who are these Christians? Viewers are left to guess.

Harris might have interviewed Frank Pastore, host of a large and successful Christian Talk show on 99.5 KKLA in Los Angeles. Pastore had this to say about Eckhart: “The New Age Movement is intellectually and spiritually bankrupt. But, it is making Tolle … —and especially Oprah—a whole bunch of money.”

Tolle’s controversial beliefs include the idea that the human ego, as in our “thinking,” is “destroying our lives.” He told Harris that the voice in your head makes you miserable and, “prevents you from being truly alive.” That voice, which others might know as conscience, “has a relentless need to be right,” Harris explained. The person who can shut out or ignore that voice will be at peace.

Tolle said to Harris, “All religions at their core have basic truths.” When Harris said “But many Christians would vehemently disagree with that. They would say, ‘Our religion is the one true religion.’”

“And that is called the ego,” Tolle responded. “It says, ‘we are right and you are wrong.’”

According to the Culture and Media Institute’s findings in the National Cultural Values Survey, 52 percent of Americans say they believe the Bible is God’s authoritative word.  Harris’ claim about those who oppose Eckhart doesn’t fully portray the clear majority of Americans who believe in the Bible, and not Eckhart.


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Selling points?

So Paris Hilton, Cher, Meg Ryan and Oprah are all onboard?

Well, holy cult leaders Batman, what else do we need to know? Sign me up and pour me some koolaid!

ABC Shortchanges Christians on Sunday

I saw this interview and one and the funniest things was how amazed Harris seemed to be that if he and his crew left Tolle all alone on the set - Tolle would be "okay" with it. Obviously Tolle is a very "independent" individual and does not need to be surrounded by others like people who would believe in a higher being. Totally at peace with himself (raking in millions of dollars like a good scam artist should).

That was some real crappy reporting.

If nobody's right ...

... then everybody's wrong.  Oh, wait, Tolle thinks he's right so he must have a pretty big ego.

LJ

I read that one too. lol

Somehow they're right, but don't have an ego? How's that work out on your side of the tracks there, Mr. Wizard?

Shows how wrong he is

They, the stars, tell how he, Stolle, has changed their lives, not how HE, God, has changed their lives.  This false prophet will stand before God one day and be in judgement for leading people astray.  I just pray his heart is changed, because the hell he faces will be certain torment for his sins.

Shows how wrong he is

They, the stars, tell how he, Stolle, has changed their lives, not how HE, God, has changed their lives.  This false prophet will stand before God one day and be in judgement for leading people astray.  I just pray his heart is changed, because the hell he faces will be certain torment for his sins.

Nothing to see here

This New Age crap has been around for years. And the Oprah faithful eat it up. Just another example of the move toward blurring the line when it comes to personal responsibility.

It's like having Christians

It's like having Christians rail against Christianity like these folks do...Fake Patriotism @ BornAgainAmerican

 

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we're not saying

we're not saying Christianity is "right" and they're "wrong." we're just saying that it's better not to burn in hell for all eternity...

for bill maher burning in hell for all eternity is the right thing to do - all the more power to him i say...

This explains a lot...

The person who can shut out or ignore [their conscience] will be at peace. 

That explains a lot about how liberals can do the things they do ... believe the things they believe ... govern the way they govern ... 

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Daily Sarah Palin fact:

Sarah Palin listens very carefully to her conscience.

Enjoying the ride to hell

"The person who can shut out or ignore that voice (conscience) will be at peace."

How did that work out for Judas?

 

It is becoming increasingly difficult to differentiate infomercials from network news(?) reporting.

"According to the Culture

"According to the Culture and Media Institute’s findings in the National Cultural Values Survey, 52 percent of Americans say they believe the Bible is God’s authoritative word.  Harris’ claim about those who oppose Eckhart doesn’t fully portray the clear majority of Americans who believe in the Bible, and not Eckhart."

It doesn't matter what 52% of Americans believe. The bible declares itself to be the authoritative word of God. It also states that those, like Oprah and Tolle, who believe that there is an alternative way to get to heaven without Jesus Christ, are going to burn in Hell. There are people who would "identify themselves" as "christian" like Oprah, who, in an effort to be "inclusive" will say that there is more than one way to heaven. The idiot so called Right Reverend of London said the same thing. However the bible is quite clear on these issues....

For instance....

John 14:6 

6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.  

It doesn't matter what Americans believe, it doesn't matter what so called Christians "believe". The only thing that matters is that the bible declares such beliefs to be INCOMPATIBLE with Christianity. PERIOD. The Barna Group regularly does surveys of "Cafeteria Christians" and while their own "Theology" is suspect to say the least, their polls are quite informative. They regularly feature "data" from alleged Christians who say that they believe Muslims etc, can be saved without Christ and so on... But what these individually misled people believe is of little or no consequence. What matters is what the WORD says about it. And the Lord was quite clear about what happens to people who do not believe that He is the sole, only, last train runnin' to the pearly gates!

JOhn 8

4I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be,[a] you will indeed die in your sins." 

Thank you, Deuce!

The second chapter of Acts is one of my all-time favorite chapters, by the way--in addition to being one of my all-time favorite musical groups.  (Oh, I just showed my age.  Liver spots are bursting out on my hands...)

There is objective truth, declared in the Bible.  The Oprah, the Right Reverend of London, and The Lightworker can all deny it--as they all have--but that doesn't make it any less true.  

--Mike 

www.thebrattonreport...

"'Truth" -- what is that??

“All religions at their core have basic truths.”

Yes.... but it does not follow that all religions at their core are true.  Why is it so difficult to understand that the major religions (aka, "belief systems") are mutually exclusive, and that they cannot, therefore, all be true?

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

lotr

you egotist!  why else would you claim logic to be true! 

 

[/exit sarc mode]

:-D

My ego doth runneth over.

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

What is truth?

Pontius Pilate asked the exact same question when he had The Truth standing in front of him.  Pilate didnt recognize it when he saw it and I certainly dont expect the likes of Oprah and Paris et al to do so.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

True!

You speak the truth!

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

Church of Oprah

I agree that people need to very concerned about those preaching an "evolution of consciousness".  Instead of a racist view of humanity the Nazis had, this is New Age feel good prejudice.  Of course Christians will not experience this new "consciousness" that Tolle preaches.  I think this new Liberal spirituality will be very intolerant of anyone who disagrees with them. 

Eckhart Tolle

Eckhart Tolle alias Ulrich Tolle is not a Christian. Tolle is purveyor of eastern mystic spiritual mumbojumbo.

From his book A New Earth, Awakening to your Life's Purpose: "...Heaven is not a location but refers to the inner realm of conciousness...Earth on the other hand, is the outer manifestation in form, which is always the reflection of the inner...A new heaven is the emergence of a transformed state of human conciousness and a new earth is a reflection in the physical realm."

At another point he says: "Recognize the ego for what it is, a collective dysfunction, the insanity of the human mind...Nobody is wrong, it is the ego in someone, that's all."

He teaches that we are god and collectively make up the god conciousness. Pure eastern claptrap. Just the kind of false prophet the Old Media likes to pass off as Christian.

Jesus Loves You

coco... Thanks for this

coco...

Thanks for this info., I had never even heard of the character Tolle before....apppreciate being filled in.

Another interpretation

"He teaches that we are god and collectively make up the god conciousness."

Or as another once said - "For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil." - Gen. 3:5

And these people who are buying into his philosophical b.s. are taking and eating.

Yep

I have some friends who are pastors and have had to work with some of their members (esp. women who watch Oprah) to try to combat this nonsense. 

Be as gods...

That's the same lie the serpent deceived Eve with in the Garden.  Some things just do not change.

"I dont need to read a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber."

Walter Brennan, The Colonel, Meet John Doe, 1941

Didn't he say,


Didn't he say, "Constantly regard the universe as one living being, having one
substance and one soul; and observe how all things have reference to
one perception, the perception of this one living being; and how all
things act with one movement; and how all things are the cooperating
causes of all things which exist; observe too the continuous spinning
of the thread and the structure of the web."?

Nope, that was Marcus Aurelius, Stoic Philosopher around the year 180 A.D.  Same ol' dog and pony.  Just put a new collar on the dog and run him around.  Someone will buy tickets.

Putting the cart before the horse

Tolle argues that the reason why we have beliefs is so our ego can say to others "I am right and you are wrong." But that's inverted. He takes a by-product of belief and turns it into the product.

For some overly egotistical people (celebrities, perhaps?), it's possible that the reason they hold a belief is because it separates them from "ordinary" people. That's taking the effect of having a belief, instead of being concerned with what the belief is. Most of us simply hold our beliefs, without using it against others.

The urge to treat "everyone's beliefs are true" is plainly illogical. Contradictory statements can't all be true. This is simply an emotional unwillingness to admit that people have different views, and that some of them (including your own) might be wrong. So, instead of facing that reality, the "tolerant" believer simply declares that everyone is right, which spares him the effort required to seek the truth.

Actually

Actually, to generalize, these groups of "New Agers" are the latest in a long line of Idol Worshipers. Just like the Israelites who fashioned a golden calf (and many other examples of idolatry in the Old Testament); these people have created a god that is easier for them to live with. This god is more tolerant, does not make life so inconvenient and allows you to believe about anything that comes easy to you.

Their new god says "Everyone do as he sees fit". Sound familiar, just before the Judges in the Old Testament? ALSO, does it sound very similar to political progressive theology? 

"I am but a speck in the

"I am but a speck in the Universe, and at one with the vast consciousness that is Cher.

Now pass that bong back." 

woah

you just blew the cosmic mind

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe