Newsweek Trashes Abstinence Education

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An Oct. 28 Newsweek article made another attempt to discredit sex ed that teaches teens to wait for sexual activity until marriage. The abstinence movement already faces dire straights since President Obama cut its federal funding from the 2010 budget. Newsweek must be hoping to bury it.  

Despite a September vote by the Senate Finance Committee that could restore the funding, Newsweek reporter Sarah Kilff maintained that the federal government has wasted money on abstinence education because the programs are ineffective.

Kliff noted that $1.5 billion of the funding for abstinence education programs came from the federal government and reported, "As funding grew, so did a body of research showing that abstinence didn't change the sexual behaviors of students; pregnancy and STD rates did not go down, the age of initial activity did not go up."

But Kliff ignored the fact that the federal government spent $12 on comprehensive sex education programs for every $1 it spent on abstinence programs.

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Kliff cited a 2007 study that found students who received abstinence education were "no more likely to abstain than those in a comprehensive program." But the study, which focused on four different abstinence programs, was largely disputed at the time of its release.

CMI reported in April 2007 that the multi-year study, conducted by Mathematica Policy Research, Inc., contained a flawed research design and that the programs studied were not representative of the 700 programs in use around the country. Abstinence curricula have evolved since the beginning of the study period. Additionally, the study did not examine curricula directed at high school students. As CMI previously noted, high school is when students have to deal with the onslaught of maturing hormones, increased peer pressure to have sex, and an intense deluge of pro-sex media messages from television, music and movies.

Dr. John Santelli, the department chair and a professor of clinical population and family health at Columbia University's Mailman School of Public Health, told Kliff in regard to abstinence education research, "Each evaluation came along, and each showed that it didn't work." The fact that Santelli is also a senior fellow at the Guttmacher Institute, the research arm of Planned Parenthood, was not noted in Kliff's article.

Santelli and Kliff both overlooked research that proved abstinence education does work. Instead, they cited a 2008 study saying that out of 48 comprehensive curriculums, "two-thirds either reduced frequency of sex or number of sexual partners."

Among the research Kliff ignored is a June 2007 study by the Salt Lake City-based Institute for Research and Evaluation that found the best federally funded abstinence programs "can reduce teen sexual activity by as much as one-half."

Rather than focus on the good abstinence programs, Kliff pushed the idea that a "major factor" in the ineffectiveness of that curriculum "was the incomplete information it provided about contraceptives and their use." She cited extreme examples from a 2009 study by the Texas Freedom Network of Education Fund, a group "that advances a mainstream agenda of religious freedom and individual liberties to counter the religious right," to prove her point.

"The Texas report, which collected data from over 96 percent of the state's school districts, found one curriculum teaching that condoms have ‘little to no benefit,'" reported Kliff. She provided a second example from a lesson taught in the Baird Independent School District that stated, "A young person who becomes sexually active at or before age 14 will contract an STD before graduating from high school. This is no longer the exception but the rule."

Kliff reported "experts on both side of the issue expect the abstinence industry to shrink significantly," even if Congress did continue to fund such programs. She cited the instance of an Illinois school district that switched to a comprehensive sex ed curriculum for its middle school in 2007 after a funding cut would have forced the district to pay for the abstinence programs it was using. Kathy Sanders, the district's director of research, testing and evaluation told Kliff, "We felt like we didn't want to fund [abstinence], since it wasn't giving all the information." According to Kliff, the district is now considering switching its high school sex ed to a comprehensive curriculum.

Scott Phelps, director of the A&M Partnership, an Illinois-based abstinence-only education organization, provided the only insight as to the other lessons contained in curriculum like his. "Our program indicates that sex is more than physical. It's emotional. There's a lot of different aspects," he told Kliff. "If I'm teaching all of that, and then I'm teaching contraception, what is contraception going to do for all those consequences? It would be sort of nonsensical."

—Colleen Raezler is a research assistant at the Culture and Media Institute


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Hard to Trash Abstinence

Abstinence works every time its employed. It never fails.

A government that can't

A government that can't control its spending and trashes its currency  doesn't understand that Abstinence teaches self-control too.

No wonder Newsweek wants to be in bed with the government.

Hey!

I spent too many years observing all the days of fast and abstinence during the liturgical year, and let me tell you, they weren't fun! Nothing fast about them! and no pay-off later for being abstinent, either!

You know, my parochial education left me with some funny bits of knowledge:

Abstinence meant no meat--the actual comestible kind.

And an "ejaculation" was a part of speech. (It still is, and actually, you often hear ejaculations during, well, you know, . . . ) 

  Yes but.... using todays

  Yes but.... using todays accounting methods we can confidently say although no changes were made in the overall statistics that there were 1000's of virgins created or saved by abstinence education.

Teaching sex ed hasn't

Teaching sex ed hasn't exactly brought down teen pregnancy and vd rates now has it?  In fact since these programs began pregnancy rates and std's have all risen.  Maybe if people (including teens) were held responsible for their actions and not enabled by welfare, nurseries in high school etc, things would change.

Radical

Right on.You make too much sense, Radical1979. The "educational" system in America is a complete failure. A few decades ago reading, writing and thinking were replaced with a "progressive","social justice" curriculum, devoid of truth and dumbed down to the point it still is today. Obama and his crew will bring it further down the abyss. It is immoral and dangerous.

P.S. A beautiful 21 year -old  young woman in my family has "abstained". She has a college degree and is on her way to success. Her good friend dropped out of high school and is a "single mom" with two kids. Duh!

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

Let's stop this debate

Cut out all federal money for public education.  Let the local school boards decide what, if anything, is taught regarding this subject.  The lawsuits, of course, will follow.  (See below.)

Stop federal judges from foisting their notions of "fairness" on the States.  Amend the 14th Amendment! - tim413

tim413 I think local school

tim413 I think local school boards should be able to decide most of what is taught to children.  We'd see more of an emphasis on the basics, and less on the feel good stuff.  I know from experience, to much time is wasted on diversity, and understanding.  Let the teachers focus on math and reading for the first three years.  Once those skills are down pat the kids can learn anything.

How about a show of hands

How about a show of hands here?  Did ya'll wait until you were married before having sex?

I did.  So did several of

I did.  So did several of my friends. It wasn't always easy, but guess what.  Abstaining until marriage greatly increases the positive effects marriage and family have on the individual, and society.

Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

Here's a better question: 

Here's a better question:  Did you not wait, and live to regret that decision? 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Why would I regret that

Why would I regret that decision?  Because I had sex with different women over the years until I got married?  What's to regret?

3Teds

Because I had sex with different women over the years until I got married?  What's to regret?

Prepare to burn in H*ll then. And I'll see you there. :)

 

Sheep don't count, Shy.

Sheep don't count, Shy.

Now, now, Ted.

Are ewes making a derogatory remark about progressive women?

 

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

I'm sorry.  That was in

I'm sorry.  That was in impolite comment. I'm usually better than that.

~We're a bad influence on you

Beware the company you keep, Teddy..next we'll have you shouting at town halls and reading Ayn Rand.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

We already have several Ayn

We already have several Ayn Rand books in the house, but they belong to my wife.  I stick with easier reading, like the Communist Manifesto and the Wealth of Nations.

~Don't forget

"How to Make Enemies and Annoy People...On Conservative Websites."

*tap tap* This thing on?

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

Daaaaarrrrrling, I wrote

Daaaaarrrrrling, I wrote that book!

Another D. Kennedy~

When exactly are you "better than that"? Tee hee.

Sorry. I'm in a weird mood. I really must get off here. I can't believe your new name, Ted. It's...well...not a lot better than the last one! One could even say it's crass. I think you should get a new name -- it's pretty offensive.

Bwahahahahahaha~~  

"There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings" ~Dorothy Thompson, writer ("First Lady of American Journalism")

GG, I swear I was going to

GG, I swear I was going to use your suggestion, "America!" as my new name, but then I'd have to honor my word to add you to my buddy list.  And I know how some of you conservies hate being on a liberal buddy list.

Dead One~

It's for the best. You would have gotten creamed with the America thing. And you can add me to your buddy list anytime you want, by the way -- I'm not scared! <<GG trembles, just a little bit>>

I was just razzin' ya about your new name...but I do think it's a riot of an "improvement." ;)

"There is nothing to fear except the persistent refusal to find out the truth, the persistent refusal to analyze the causes of happenings" ~Dorothy Thompson, writer ("First Lady of American Journalism")

~Hmmm

We may have to work out some sort of a timeshare agreement on this one, GG...

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

Thanks, GG.  I was really

Thanks, GG.  I was really going for something that wouldn't misdirect my readers.  This stays consistent with the Kennedy theme, while removing any question of love or loyalty to ol' Teddy.  

But America! would have been fantastic.  I'll always like you just for the inspiration. 

You could all punk on us and...

Go with "The Dead Kennedy's". Damn, showing my age now. I really didn't get into the punk rock thingy. : ) 

Gary

 

POLITICS: poly (many) + ticks (blood sucking parasites)

 

There's still time!  I

There's still time!  I understand the Dead Kennedys are still a touring band.  Of course, Jello Biafra is no longer a member, so it's like going to see Queen with that "other guy" singing.  

Karma

Love the tagline, btw. And love your comeback. :)

But seriously, that was a low blow by The3Teds. After receiving various PMs from esteemed NB'ers about him, I will no longer engage with Ted. I'll just leave it at that.

:p 

Is that a promise, MrShy?

Is that a promise, MrShy?  Nice for you to appear to take the high road here after slinking along with the slugs for so long.  But seriously, you want to talk about this topic, I'm available.  If you're here to throw insults or critique my arguments, stick to your word.

WhereIsTedNumberFour?

I wasn't talking to you. :)

But I'm just busting your chops. :p = tongue out/being teh funnies like JWF. 

EDIT: You want to discuss the topic of conquests? (*Steps back to read NB's tagline....*

Exposing & Combating Sex Before Marriage ?

(noooo......) 

 

Abstinence education.  Last

Abstinence education.  Last time we had this topic several NBers posted how much fun it is dating liberal girls.  I'm guessing these weren't the "abstinence until marriage" variety conservatives.  

TheFourthTed

All I ever date is liberal girls. Well, almost all, that is. Hard not to around here.

 

(GASP)  This puts us in the

(GASP) 

This puts us in the same category, as far as this thread goes.  So whadya say, Shy?  Abstinence only education or what? 

MyThreeTeds

I favor abstinence only education. Certainly for teens. If they go year after year not marrying, well, they'll at least have not had sex (hopefully) and by this point as an adult they'll be wiser when they DO have sex.

But money poured into "sex education" these days is ridiculous and indeed just promotes meaningless sex, and having it so young. I was not young at all my first time. And I do try not to have meaningless sex. I have a conscience. (Yes, chose, I do, really.) 

Not sure I favor "what".

 

~Low blow?

Like this?

chose

October 7, 2009 - 14:56 ET by MrShy

How can you have so many kids and be on a blog site all day and night?

JK!

Shy,
October 25, 2009 - 03:05 ET by RESTLESS 1

Seeing as the one you are apparently digging at, and I shared the same
position on that thread, you can see where I might think I was included
in subsequent "digs". 

And whether they were directed at me or not, I always "rest" easy. 

"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest

Rest1
October 25, 2009 - 03:09 ET by MrShy

No, never had you in mind in those digs. Those digs have been designed solely for one person.

 

I'm here, Huckleberry. Make your first one your best one, cause it'll be your last one.

 

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

good grief

Chose is baaaack....

O.C.N.B.A.'er

 

(Does no one txt around here, using ":p" when they're having fun with people? I guess I'm one of "those kids today"....)

 

~That's it

Tuck tail and run.

Lookit the little feller go.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

chose

Yes, you scare me.

And I'm not alone. :p

(And yes, I do love the tongue-y.) 

 

More importantly, did they

More importantly, did they have regrets.

~Girl

You read my mind.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

Regrets?  No.  They even

Regrets?  No.  They even told me so.

~Did that cost extra?

ROFLMAO

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

You!

You!

~*wink*

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

...best response of the day

...best response of the day in my book!

v

"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29

Ask your wife if she has any regrets!

...you and your mate bring a sample of every one you have each been with into your marriage bed.  That 'sample' is both physical and mental, not to mention spiritual. 

and neither one is very pleasing to your Creator...  

fornication: : consensual sexual intercourse between two persons not married to each other

adultery: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband; also : an act of adultery

v

"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29

You really want to get that

You really want to get that personal?  Talking about my wife?  I would think even a conservative wouldn't overstep those bounds.  And what does adultery have to do with this?  

And what does adultery have to do with this?

...I may be wrong, but I would suspect the more you fornicated before marriage, the more prone you are to commit adultery.

v

...I had my fun where I found it, and now I must pay for my fun,

for once you have known of others, it's hard to settle for one.

Is that accusation based on

Is that accusation based on your own experience?

Is that accusation based on your own experience?

...wasn't meant as an accusation...

re-phrased:..."I may be wrong, but I would suspect the more one fornicated before marriage, the more prone one might be to commit adultery."

v

"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29

Yes, completely wrong.

Yes, completely wrong.  From the first time I had sex though this very moment, I've never slept with a married woman, nor cheated on a woman with whom I was in a relationship.  It's a simple concept of right and wrong.

"I've never slept with a married woman, nor cheated...

...It's a simple concept of right and wrong."

...it's all relative though isn't  it.  There are probably many who would say it's not wrong to cheat on your mate, under certain circumstances.  And yet others who would feel it wrong to "cheat' on your eventual wife by fornicating with others prior to marriage.  Right and wrong for many is subjective at best.

v

"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29

Isn't it just as wrong,

Isn't it just as wrong, then, to assume that because a person didn't wait to get married before having sex, that he or she will cheat on that spouse?

"...didn't wait to get married before having sex..."

What I said was "...I may be wrong, but I would suspect the more you fornicated before marriage, the more prone you are to commit adultery."

Couldn't find any stats on it, just seems to make sense.

v

"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29

"And yet others who would

"And yet others who would feel it wrong to "cheat' on your eventual wife by fornicating with others prior to marriage."

And that would be just as silly as believing it's ok to cheat on one's actual spouse.

Funny, I'd say it's likely

Funny, I'd say it's likely to be just the opposite.

~"Even a conservative"

Harsh, dude. 

Before you talk about conservatives and bounds, you might pause for a moment to remember what liberals have said about Palin and her family. Just a thought.

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

 

~Yes

In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.

http://themessengerd...

Just because you may have fornicated,

Just because you may have fornicated, lied, cheated, stolen, cursed, or such doesn't make it right...

v

"We ought to obey God rather than men."
Acts 5:29

Good point.  I was

Good point.  I was abstinent and I'm proud of it.  Now I'm married in a healthy relationship with zero concerns of STDs or the guilt of unwanted pregnancies.  Wow, there really are benefits to clean living.

Abstinence can be hard, but it can also be easy if one follows a few simple rules (rules which used to be common in American society) like never being alone with somebody of the opposite sex in a house or a room.

→ deerjerkydave

Obama seems to be losing weight.

I'm jus' sayin'

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

I'm married and in a healthy

I'm married and in a healthy relationship as well, with zero concerns of STDs and unwanted pregnancies.  That's what safe sex education teaches.

I'm not sure how practical your statement is about never being alone in a room with someone of the opposite sex.  Call it a self control issue, but I've been working in an office with my assistant for the past 2 months, and things seem to be working out just fine.  

ADK

Thanks for the info. :)

But to return to what I posted to you yesterday, that's why as much -- if not more (or less on the former) -- should be spent on promoting abstinence. Now, abstinence *before* marriage, okay, perhaps that doesn't have to be stressed as much, but then we get down a slope here with basic values and the church. But wither way, what's your beef with telling kids, hey, sex is physically enjoyable but it's best with someone you love? 

 

I never said I had a problem

I never said I had a problem with that.  It's no different than telling kids not to smoke, drink, or do drugs.  Teaching them to mature before making those kinds of decisions for themselves is important.  But teaching kids about safe sex is just as important as teaching them not to drink and drive.  Kids will drink anyway, and kids will have sex anyway - how to do it safely is the issue.

3Teds

EDIT: (after rereading...) 

But teaching kids about safe sex is just as important as teaching them not to drink and drive.

One is not a necessity -- a daily or weekly one, at least (and only necessary for when you have to procreate) -- while the other one, in today's industrial age, in most places is.

Kids will drink anyway, and kids will have sex anyway - how to do it safely is the issue.

While part-of-the-way-there true, at the core that's a defeatist mantra.

 

→ Drupal

Call it a self control issue, but I've been working in an office with
my assistant for the past 2 months, and things seem to be working out
just fine.

Maybe your assistant doesn't think you're his type.

BWAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!

Now that there's funny, I don't care who y'are.

ACORN - creating or saving votes since 1970 

That was hilarious, I got

That was hilarious, I got tears rolling down my cheeks

Tex, if you even saw my

Tex, if you even saw my assistant you wouldn't need those viagra pills anymore.

Cool/Yep, it's a tickler~

You are so cute-funny that sometimes I can hardly stand it!:)

"Think wrongly, if you please, but in all cases think for yourself." ~Doris Lessing, British writer 

"and"?

Does your wife and healthy relationship partner get together to compare notes? This doesn't sound safe to me.

 

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

Do you even know what karma

Do you even know what karma means?  With statements like that, I rather doubt it.

Ease your doubts, Teddy.

Karma means a great deal to me. She, being a miniature aussie, is the latest of many wonderful dogs I have owned. She was named by my son.

But enough about her.

When you wrote;  "I'm married and in a healthy relationship as well, ....", I may have mistakenly took you to mean that you were married and in a healthy relationship as well. Instead of changing the subject to my screen name, you could have just clarified that you are happily married with no other healthy relationships, if that is the case. Or maybe you're just havin' a bad day. You should get a dog.  

Hi. My name is John Q. Public, but some just call me racist.

That specific wording was in

That specific wording was in response to a poster above who wrote the same thing.  Based on the responses here, some of them wise-cracks, it's rather insulting that people think a liberal can't possibly be in a healthy, responsible relationship with just one person.  Yours came across as insulting.  Forgive me for misinterpreting your post.  

And for the record, I'm having a fine day.  Things are just speeding along towards lunch, and it's quite beautiful out.  My assistant (who apparently I can't be trusted alone with) and I will probably eat outside today in one of the courtyards.  And as soon as my wife and I move, we will be getting a dog.  Hopefully he will not eat my wife's cat, Karma (yes, the cat's name is Karma). 

TooManyTeds

Btw, why should you have any concerns about an unwanted pregnancy?

Between cool and myself, we might need a second set of snare and cymbal.

And really, shouldn't all new life be wanted? 

 

If that's another joke

If that's another joke (which I can only assume so), it fell flat.

I'm not worried about unwanted pregnancies because I've always been cautious.  Something I learned in high school health class, thankfully.   

I didn't. If I had to wait

I didn't. If I had to wait until marriage, I'd probably die a virgin, lol. I'm not against pre-marital sex necessarily, I'm against encouraging kids to engage in it.

I've also lied before....So, should we teach kids that lying is ok, and have classes showing them how to lie without getting caught?

ckc

Exactly, to the last point. And to the point before, at the end of the first paragraph. :)

 

It Works every time

Abstinence works every time it is employed. 

I often which the parents of the editors and staff of Newsweek and the New York Times followed that path and the world would probably be a more honest place. 

Newsweek’s lack of logic and overall bias in this article is beyond understanding, is rampart sex now a liberal agenda?  The downfall of morals in this country is a constant reminder that the liberal agenda is a dead-end street.  Liberals complain about population growth, wasting the planets resources, pollution but refuse to admit that children having children is the cause of all of this.

 

Newsweek Trashes Abstinence Education

Facts are stubborn things.

Newsweek reporter Sarah Kilff maintained that the federal government has wasted money on abstinence education because the programs are ineffective.

 If that's the yardstick by which we measure government programs, I expect Kilff to be writing follow-up articles advocating the end of virtually every other Federal program as well, since most are less effective than abstinence education, and cost far more. 

Sex ed is really working

Holeinthehull

 If I am reading this correctly, Comprehensive sex ed received $12 dollars for every $1 abstinence received then i would say that Comp Sex Ed is 12 times more a failure than abstinence.  Without parental oversite and their involvement day to day with their children it won't matter how much money is spent trying to keep kids from dropping trow. If there is a problem in this country then the knee jerk reaction is throw some more damn money at it. God help us please!

abstinence

My kids abstinence program comes from me, despite the fact that I don't get any federal funding.

This is yet another area of parental responsibility that people are ceding to the government.

Parents should teach girls respect for themselves and boys respect for girls.

My kids don't need lessons on the consequences, they've seen them every day at school since the 7th grade.

Schools should teach

Schools should teach biology.  Sex ed should be done by the parents.