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NYT's Stevenson Makes 'Nuanced' Defense of Obama's 2009 Prediction of 6.5% Unemployment

By Clay Waters | November 08, 2011 | 08:47

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In “Missed Jobs Forecast in 2009 Resonates in Campaign,” Richard Stevenson’s “Political Memo” buried in the New York Times's Saturday Business section, the paper’s political editor mounted a defense of Obama’s prediction of 6.5% unemployment and "stimulus," while regretting the administration’s “nuanced” argument would be buried by misleading Republicans: "Despite repeated Republican claims to the contrary, the stimulus bill created at least hundreds of thousands of jobs, according to nearly all nonpartisan analysts, including the Congressional Budget Office. But it’s impossible to compress the nuance onto a bumper sticker."

Ten days prior to Mr. Obama’s taking the oath of office in January 2009, his economic team released a report outlining the estimated benefits of the $775 billion stimulus plan he was seeking. The projections were quite specific. The stimulus legislation passed just a few weeks later at about the size the White House had sought. Had all gone as promised by the report, the unemployment rate right now would have been around 6.5 percent, heading down to around 6 percent by the end of this year and a little over 5 percent at the end of next year.

Of course it didn’t turn out that way: “The Labor Department announced Friday that the unemployment rate for October was 9 percent, down from 9.1 percent a month earlier...The Federal Reserve has already projected that the unemployment rate will be at least 8.5 percent at the end of next year...” Stevenson then noted sourly the “conservative assault” on Keynesian economics and activist government:

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The gap between the projections his team made in early 2009 and the grim reality of the last three years has produced a substantively debatable but politically powerful argument for Republicans. It has helped rally conservative opposition to most of Mr. Obama’s subsequent agenda, and going into the thick of the presidential race it has become the primary basis not only for the Republican case against a second Obama term but also for the most intensive conservative assault in decades on Keynesian economics and the role of government.

Sometimes in factually exaggerated ways, Republicans on the campaign trail are using the busted projections to assert that the stimulus bill failed, that government cannot create jobs and that it is time for less spending rather than more.
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And for those interested in the underlying economics, there’s a persuasive case that the report actually did not get it all that wrong. While the report seriously underestimated the severity of the recession and therefore the job losses the nation would suffer in 2009, it was proven right in its basic point that the stimulus plan would yield substantial job-creation compared to doing nothing. In other words, it was correct in projecting a significant, positive impact on jobs from the stimulus spending, but wrong in its assumptions of the depths of the job-loss hole the stimulus was trying to fill.

Despite repeated Republican claims to the contrary, the stimulus bill created at least hundreds of thousands of jobs, according to nearly all nonpartisan analysts, including the Congressional Budget Office.

But it’s impossible to compress the nuance onto a bumper sticker.
As a political matter, Republicans have used the shortfall relative to the projections to establish a narrative that the stimulus failed, and with it Mr. Obama’s presidency. To the White House’s intense frustration, the chart showing the early 2009 projections has become the centerpiece of the closing Republican argument against Mr. Obama’s re-election and against the economic policies his party stands for, including the jobs package Congress is debating and largely rejecting now.

Stevenson also admired Obama’s nuance in a January 31, 2010 Week in Review piece:

On this much, President Obama's friends and foes could agree: He eludes simple labels....In a world that presents so many fast-moving and intractable problems, nuance, flexibility, pragmatism -- even a full range of human emotions -- are no doubt good things. But as Mr. Obama wrapped up his State of the Union address on Wednesday night with an appeal to transcend partisan gamesmanship, he was plaintively testing a broader proposition: Is it possible to embrace complexity in a political and media culture that demands simple themes and promotes conflict?

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Here's a bumper sticker for you, Mr. Stevenson

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 9:01am.

Is unemployment under 8%?

or maybe this:

6.5% ?  We'd settle for 8!!

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Tell that to...

Submitted by GeneralAl on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 8:59am.

Tell all this nonsense to all of us who lost our jobs and our business do to your incompetent Keynesian community agonizer! Creating government jobs with the money we have left after your god [with a small g!] has run us into the ground, is not an accomplishment, its grand larceny! I hope I live to see the day this moron goes to prison along with most of the Commiedem Party!

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That's like saying Fast and

Submitted by Dave81 on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 9:00am.

That's like saying Fast and Furious didn't fail either, they were just wrong in their assumptions of the depth of the drug cartel problem in Mexico. We need to send MORE guns to Mexico to fix the problem!

Let's do some quick (and very dirty math). Let's assume that the stimulus created 500,000 jobs (let's be generous). That means it cost about $1.8 million for each job created from the stimulus package. In order to pull the unemployment rate down to the projected 6.5%, the next stimulus package would need to be about 10x bigger, or almost $5 trillion (since the first was nearly $1 trillion when it finally "passed"). Yeah...the government spending an extra $5 trillion in addition to the trillions of unallocated funds it already spends is EXACTLY what this country needs right now!

If we assume that only 100,000 jobs were created (since the figure was "at least hundreds of thousands of jobs), the next stimulus would need to be 50x larger, or roughly 3.5x the current national debt. This is liberal logic at its best.

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Dave, it's more soft bigotry

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 9:07am.

Dave, it's more soft bigotry of low expectations. For every failure of Obama's there is an army of "journalists" ready to weave his straw into gold.

We should have never expected so much of him. BTW, let's forget about who it was who built up the expectations.  

Now her Speakerness-no-more is going around saying he's (with the help of Democrats) actually done an amazing job, because if not for him, unemployment would be 15% by now!

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Granted you can't have shoved that

Submitted by zenman1661 on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 9:33am.

much money into the economy without creating or saving some jobs. But between the stimulus being more a Democratic election payback bill and Obama's administrations heavy and expensive hand on our country since has resulted in our current financial mess.

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Despite repeated Republican

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 9:19am.

Despite repeated Republican claims to the contrary, the stimulus bill created at least hundreds of thousands of jobs

At least???  Does that mean maybe more?  As in millions?  Or a million?  That IS what "at least" implies, and a million is what comes after "hundreds of thousands."

Or am I just using a "nuanced" argument?

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Notice no mention of "SAVED or created"

Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 12:01pm.

That lead balloon sunk, didn't it?

I wrote this almost two months ago, but it is just as true today. Can Someone Please Explain "No Double Dip"? 

The graphic representation of what was projected (with and without stimulus), vis-a-vis reality, is rather stunning.  As is BK's beautiful picture.

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6.5%???

Submitted by NVRAT on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 10:47am.

With more that 65% of unempolyed people no longer eligible for unemployment, and falling off of the roles this year that brings the total unemployment to about 19%+ boy, that must be some achievement Stevenson. The stimulus did not create jobs it mostly went to European Banks to bail them out of the Democrats bundling of Toxic mortgages by Freddie and Fanny that was sold to them. Thanks Jimmy Carter and the rest of the Liberal Democrats and some RINO Republicans.

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If a Republican had said it:

Submitted by tdabbs on Tue, 11/08/2011 - 4:52pm.

6.5 % would have been called a "lie".

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