NYTimes Still Hoping Border Fence Talk Will Alienate Hispanics, Spell Doom for GOP
The New York Times has been anxiously awaiting the day the “sleeping giant” of the Hispanic vote wake up with an electoral roar to slaughter the G.O.P. once and for all. It hasn’t happened yet, but perhaps in 2012 the Republican line on immigration reform will cost Republicans the Hispanic vote and the presidency. After all, “some party officials,” allied with “some Republican strategists,” think it may.
Thursday’s bit of wishful thinking came from reporter Trip Gabriel, “Tough Immigration Talk Heats Up Debate, and Alienates Some Hispanics.”
Today, Republican candidates are competing over who can talk the toughest about illegal immigration -- who will erect the most impenetrable border defense; who will turn off “magnets” like college tuition benefits.
But after such pointed proposals heated up yet another Republican debate, on Tuesday night, some party officials see a yellow light signaling danger in battleground states with large Hispanic populations in November 2012. Will Hispanic voters remember and punish the eventual Republican nominee?
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Republican strategists have hoped to win many of these voters back by appealing to their discontent over the economy and to their social conservatism, issues that helped George W. Bush win a historically high 44 percent of Hispanic voters in 2004.
Now, however, that pitch may be thwarted, according to some Republican strategists.
Both Herman Cain, the former business executive, and Representative Michele Bachmann are proposing a 1,200-mile border fence -- electrified, in Mr. Cain’s case, double-walled in Mrs. Bachmann’s.
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Even Mr. Romney, who has been more measured in his remarks, may have lost Hispanic support over his criticism of a Texas law that allows some children of illegal immigrants to attend state colleges on in-state tuition.
Gabriel pointed to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid holding on to his seat in Nevada over Sharron Angle as a sign that Republicans missed an opportunity, quoting Democratic strategist Andres Ramirez.
“Their rhetoric on illegal immigration was very over the top,” he said. “It will cost them in the future.”
We shall see.
On the same page Thursday appeared reporter Julia Preston, a reporter whose coverage is very sympathetic toward illegal immigrants. She took a surprising fiscal conservative angle in arguing against a border fence in “Some Cheer Border Fence As Others Ponder the Cost.”
Proposals for an imposing border fence have drawn cheers at Republican rallies. Border security appears to be an area where some Republican candidates are ready to set aside their priority on fiscal discipline, since security analysts say very little research is available on how much a border-length fence would cost.
Unlike the Times’s cheerleading coverage for budget-busting Obamacare, the Times was diligent in tallying up every conceivable possible cost of a border-length fence.
In 2009, the Congressional Search Service reported that the Department of Homeland Security had spent roughly up to $21 million per mile to build a primary fence near San Diego. The cost had ballooned as the fence extended into hills and gullies along the line.
The same year, Customs and Border Protection estimated costs of building an additional 3.5 miles of fence near San Diego at $16 million per mile. Even this lower figure would yield a rough projection of $22.4 billion for a single fence across the 1,400 miles remaining today.
These estimates do not include the costs of acquiring land, nor the expense of maintaining a fence that is exposed to constant efforts by illegal crossers to bore through it or under it or to bring it down. In March, Customs and Border Protection estimated it would cost $6.5 billion “to deploy, operate and maintain” the existing border fencing over an expected maximum lifetime of 20 years. The agency reported repairing 4,037 breaches in 2010 alone.
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that's dumb
Submitted by wizardjr on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 2:17pm.
only the ILLEGAL alien vote would go against the GOP on this issue,
the legals don't want these uneducated, welfare sucking dolts coming here and giving THEM a bad name
One of the funnier scenes I
Submitted by ThePickle on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 2:34pm.
One of the funnier scenes I have been treated to as of late was one were a clearly Latino cashier at a local convenience store was approached by another Latino who proceeded to tell the cashier what he wanted....in Spanish. Well the cashiers face took on a thunderous expression and he answered his "fellow" Latino with "Está en América Ahora. Hable inglés" ( Your in America! Speak English!) and then refused to service the fellow...... until he repeated his order ...in English. :)
Sadly,
Submitted by Ashrak on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 2:28pm.
I watched Megyn Kelly on Fox News today tout how Americans really don't care about illegal immigration or border security. Bagging on Michele Bachmann's position and even Cain too.
Maybe it is just me, but she seems very different now than she was prior to her off time having her baby.
Fact is, the whole Reagan, Colmes Kelly segment felt like something I would see on MSNBC........
Megyn hasn't changed
Submitted by TerryWest on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 2:56pm.
imo Megyn hasn't changed, Fox has changed her.
They have caved to the progressive pressure and the evidence is everywhere both in the programming and online site
When 99 % of all media is liberal slanted Fox could not go wrong in being fair and balanced if they never had a liberal view, yet they caved to progressive pressure and allowed it to dictate what fair and balance is.
Say what you will about Beck but at least he had the moral strength to leave rather then ride the left swing at Fox
A lot of the women on Fox
Submitted by redfish on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 2:57pm.
A lot of the women on Fox News are kind of moderate, liberal leaning on social issues ; including Margaret Hoover, who I particularly dislike, even though I identify myself as a moderate.
Maggie Hoover
Submitted by Schofield Kid on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 5:57pm.
I have yet to see any evidence of Hoover being a conservative or even a Republican, yet she is billed as "Republican Strategist." She seems to take the left stance on every issue or at least have some sympathy toward the cause as with the OWS crowd.
Another issue the GOP could
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 2:37pm.
Another issue the GOP could win on but won't because they are afraid of offending obama and the left. Illegal is illegal and Americans are fed up with it.
There they go again...
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 3:20pm.
Publishing their hopes as news.....after all, "some" think it "may."
And if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.
When liberals warn Republicans about what not to do....
Submitted by NeoKong on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 4:03pm.
Do the exact opposite.
Tough border security is a winner in the next election.
Only a fool would worry about who a border fence might alienate.
It would be like suggesting Mall owners cut back on security so they do not offend flash mobs.
wish casting...
Submitted by wizardjr on Thu, 10/20/2011 - 7:43pm.
Only the stupid Dhimmeroid Lite RINOs would fall for this crappola. They might not get invited to the cocktail parties otherwise.
WTF
Submitted by Utherpend on Fri, 10/21/2011 - 12:31pm.
Hispanics are never going to vote for Conservatives in enough number to even be a statistic, why bother. Double down and stress the FEDERAL law and not try to kiss up to Illegal Loving Latins. Bsaicallty if you arent for supporting the laws of America I dont want you to be part of my voting bloc.