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Disdain for 'Right Wing' Position on Global Warming in NYTimes: 'We Look Like a Joke, Right?'

By Clay Waters | October 18, 2011 | 11:11

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The Sunday Review cover story lament by New York Times environmental reporter Elisabeth Rosenthal, “Where Did Global Warming Go?”, collected examples of conservative “climate deniers” (does anyone actually deny that climate exists?) being mocked by environmental experts like Bill Clinton, as well as all of Europe, for not signing on to crippling regulations in the name of halting rising temperatures.

Rosenthal is certainly a believer in the theory that man is making the temperature rise in harmful fashion; in her reporting she has blamed about every problem under the sun on global warming, even calling on China and India to turn off their air conditioners to save the planet in the August 28 edition of the Sunday Review.

In 2008, both the Democratic and Republican candidates for president, Barack Obama and John McCain, warned about man-made global warming and supported legislation to curb emissions. After he was elected, President Obama promised “a new chapter in America’s leadership on climate change,” and arrived cavalry-like at the 2009 United Nations Climate Conference in Copenhagen to broker a global pact.

But two years later, now that nearly every other nation accepts climate change as a pressing problem, America has turned agnostic on the issue.

In the crowded Republican presidential field, most seem to agree with Gov. Rick Perry of Texas that “the science is not settled” on man-made global warming, as he said in a debate last month. Alone among Republicans onstage that night, Jon M. Huntsman Jr. said that he trusted scientists’ view that the problem was real. At the moment, he has the backing of about 2 percent of likely Republican voters.

Though the evidence of climate change has, if anything, solidified, Mr. Obama now talks about “green jobs” mostly as a strategy for improving the economy, not the planet. He did not mention climate in his last State of the Union address. Meanwhile, the administration is fighting to exempt United States airlines from Europe’s new plan to charge them for CO2 emissions when they land on the continent. It also seems poised to approve a nearly 2,000-mile-long pipeline, from Canada down through the United States, that will carry a kind of oil. Extracting it will put relatively high levels of emissions into the atmosphere.

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The United States is the “one significant outlier” on responding to climate change, according to a recent global research report produced by HSBC, the London-based bank. John Ashton, Britain’s special representative for climate change, said in an interview that “in the U.K., in Europe, in most places I travel to” -- but not in the United States -- “the starting point for conversation is that this is real, there are clear and present dangers, so let’s get a move on and respond.” After watching the Republican candidates express skepticism about global warming in early September, former President Bill Clinton put it more bluntly, “I mean, it makes us -- we look like a joke, right?”

Rosenthal devotes one sentence to reasons why Americans might not want to emulate the restrictions of Europe called for by fear-mongering climate science: "We value personal freedom, are suspicious of scientists, and tend to distrust the kind of sweeping government intervention required to confront rising greenhouse gas emissions."

Rosenthal’s reporting sounds a bit European in its disdainful distancing from the G.O.P.
 

In the United States, the right wing of the Republican Party has managed to turn skepticism about man-made global warming into a requirement for electability, forming an unlikely triad with antiabortion and gun-rights beliefs. In findings from a Pew poll this spring, 75 percent of staunch conservatives, 63 percent of libertarians and 55 percent of Main Street Republicans said there was no solid evidence of global warming.

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Buffeted by two years of treacherous weather that they are less able to handle than richer nations -- from floods in India to water shortages in China -- developing countries are feeling vulnerable. Scientists agree that extreme weather events will be more severe and frequent on a warming planet, and insurance companies have already documented an increase.

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Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times. Click here to follow Clay Waters on Twitter.
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Global Warming my keister!

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 11:24am.

Check out this post on the hoax:

Global Money Grab

hbnolikeee
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Before Man Used Fire

Submitted by miss911ninja on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:48pm.

That post pretty much sums it up! Anyone who believes in man man made global warming is simply ignorant; not knowing about the Ice Ages. Every single deep lake in the world was created by the melting of huge glaciers as the planet went through cycles of warming. Long before man even learned how to make fire!

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Climate alarmists like to

Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 11:32am.

Climate alarmists like to push every explanation for the rise of skepticism, except lack of pursuasive scientific evidence. As the climate has refused to follow modeling, the argument has essentially become demonizing AWG skeptics.

Knowing that all the MSM will carry the water for anything anti-Republican, NYT's particular goal is to make skepticism a Republican political platform, not a legimate scientific position.

Notice Rosenthal's statement (already highlighted by Mr. Waters) "Though the evidence of climate change has, if anything, solidified". Yet she fails to present a single piece of evidence to support this claim. The sorry truth for the alarmist crowd is that in the last 13 years, there is almost no evidence supporting AWG, and plenty to refute it.

               A gun in your hand beats a cop on the phone.
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Who are the Real Flat Earthers?

Submitted by genethemachine on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 11:52am.

Let me get this straight...They are the fact based thinkers...we are the faith based thinkers???

They base their theory on roughly 200 years of flawed data. And with this they believe they can understand a planet that is 4.55 Billion years old. This is roughly equivalent to having 1 second of data and predicting events for a year.

But we are the flat earthers?? Their arrogance is astounding.

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Global Warming

Submitted by NewLife56 on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 11:57am.

Disdain for 'Right Wing' Position on Global Warming in NYTimes: 'We Look Like a Joke, Right?'

Yes you do, Al Gore's mouth is the ONLY man made warming there is, the rest is natural

NewLife56
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"Where did Global Warming

Submitted by DaChew on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 12:09pm.

"Where did Global Warming Go?"

What do you mean, where did it go? It's right over there on the other side of the shark where it landed.

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"Where did Global Warming

Submitted by DaChew on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 12:09pm.

Delete double post

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Liberals only care about science if it can be used to argue for

Submitted by Apache on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 2:11pm.

Liberals only care about science if it can be used to argue for more government.

“We have got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.” - Timothy Wirth, U.S. Undersecretary of State for Global Issues

“A global warming treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect.” Richard Benedick, headed policy divisions of the U.S. State Department.

“No matter if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental benefits" Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister for the Liberal Party of Canada

Quote source: Icecap.us

So it is not that liberals are any less skeptical than conservatives. It is that they don't care. It is a tool for their cause. If it was a theory promoted by Michele Bachmann and the solution was based on free market capitalism then these same people would call you "anti-science" if you believed in it. It is not science at all. They skip the part where you see if the observed data matches the predictions based on the theory and mock anyone who notices that they don't. "Climatology" is as advanced and useful as Astrology. Yet these media hacks put in on par with real science. It's a joke and these pop scifi pimps in the media are becoming a joke right along with it.

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Hey, if somebody is causing global warming, give him a Nobel!

Submitted by merly1 on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 12:23pm.

Mankind is booming. Harvests are booming.
It is the best of times, as evidenced by the fact the UN just increased its 2100
humanity projections by ANOTHER 1 billion (more) people.
Sure better than the last glacial period, and certainly more worthy of mans'
appreciation than even a Salk or Jobs.
Alas, this warm period may have little to do with mankind, and when it cools again,
the food supplies will diminish.

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Now now, we have AGW kooks on the Republican ticket.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:31pm.

No wonder C. Christie endorsed Romney...

ROMNEY ANNOUNCES STRICT NEW CLEAN AIR REGULATIONS TO TAKE EFFECT JANUARY 1

Massachusetts is the first and only state to set CO-2 emissions limits on power plants. The limits, which target the six largest and oldest power plants in the state, are the toughest in the nation and are designed to lower emissions of nitrogen oxides, sulfur dioxide and mercury from power plant smokestacks.

More over on Moonbattery.

In the development of greenhouse gas policy, Romney Administration officials have elicited input from environmental and economic policy experts. These include John Holden [sic], professor of environmental policy at Harvard University…

You Didn't Build That.

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All you Anybody-But-Obama people, take a good long look

Submitted by lsudolemite on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:39pm.

at that post.

"Liberalism is hideous.  It is the antithesis of being pro-human.  It looks at life as a burden in and of itself to be managed, rather than as a blessing to be explored and lived to the fullest." --Rush Limbaugh
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I'm not sure

Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 3:20pm.

But I think the majority of us that are conservatives already knew that Romney is bad news any way you look at it, he's Soetoro-Lite.  He might be a wall street guy, but he sucks ass as a governor and is about as RINO as you can get.

-Jon

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Perhaps so,

Submitted by lsudolemite on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 4:02pm.

but I'm still hearing an awful lot of "conservative" callers on talk radio mouthing the "anybody but Obama" line, and how we need an electable candidate.

"Liberalism is hideous.  It is the antithesis of being pro-human.  It looks at life as a burden in and of itself to be managed, rather than as a blessing to be explored and lived to the fullest." --Rush Limbaugh
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I know.

Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 5:01pm.

Yeah, I've heard about that, and it depresses me to think that this kind of attitude would get us another McCain type and we might end up with 4 more years of the dictator in chief.  Then the country being on life support would just have its plug pulled and that's the end of that.

-Jon

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Sad Indeed

Submitted by IrateNate on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 8:57pm.

I know way too many people who simply pull the straight ticket lever, thinking "we've only got to get rid of the Democrats, and everything will magically fix itself." However, I know just as many who feel the GOP is the source of all that is evil.

If it comes down to Romney or Obama, I'll write in Dr. Paul. At least I can stick to my principles. I refuse to hold my nose and vote for Romney, as I did for McCain.

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IrateNate, That nose pinch courtesy of the RNC. ala Dole, McCain

Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 1:28pm.

Thank God that one can send money directly to the candidates, and not have your donation funneled to the greatest Phone Bank of call back, for more funds. I mean what's left over after paying all them souls to hammer the contributors... something like 9%..

(Just a sec the phone is ringing. Gawd I wish I could block phone (land line) calls like junk email).

Speaking of 9% .... 

 Looks like O'bama is scared to be running against Cain. So RNC it's up to you, quit having primaries in liberal states.

Why does Hong Kong boom, in a land with no natural resources?

Holding my nose and voting for McCain was painful...I'm voting for Cain.

You Didn't Build That.

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Mariner Crush

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:43pm.

She has a crush on the aquaman from "Waterworld". Gills and webbed feet turn her on.

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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Only the stupid and illiterate believe in AGW now

Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 2:00pm.

I'm just waiting to see what the commie's next scare scam is going to be.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

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Elizabeth who?

Submitted by Dr. Ron on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 2:04pm.

Sorry...semi-ad hominem coming up: so, you are an MD. speciality in epidemiolgy...great and noteworthy. Where is your PhD or MA in a hard science such as climatology/meteorology or the like, Ms.Rosenthal?

Ronald John Lofaro, PhD
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Not to flame you... but a

Submitted by Doc_Navy on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 10:11am.

Not to flame you... but a "science" that didn't exist before 1991 is hardly a "hard" science. If you do a little research, you can't find the word "Climatology" used as a seperate branch of scientific enquiry before then.

Hard science, Math, Chemistry, Physics, Biology, etc...

Doc

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No AGW

Submitted by deadeyedan on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 5:40pm.

When the illustrious Al Gore (surely I jest) had his 24 hour climate reality gabathon last month there was on one of the associated web sites a place for commentary.

One gal kept harping on the idea that if you add something to the mix (like carbon dioxide to the atmosphere) it must necessarily change the outcome. Some fellow stated that the situation was so dire that we needed to do something about it yesterday.

To which my reply asked what would happen if we were to "add" something to a greenhouse, specifically another layer of glass and why did we not, back in 1988 when all this hooey gained traction, resurrect the Saturn V rockets to get us back to the moon so that we could establish solar power stations there that could transmit that energy back here to earth.

This reply did not make the cut; it never got published, of course. And we all know why, don't we.

GLOBAL WARMING - authoritarian, rather than authoritative, science

CLIMATEGATE - the revelation that the pseudo-scientists at East Anglia University know just as much about the atmosphere as Harvard law professors know about the Constitution

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