No Squeamish Urban Liberals Here: NY Times Readers Up in Arms About Women Bearing Arms
If the New York Times isn’t a liberal newspaper, then why do so many humorless liberals complain when it makes a lighthearted detour off the P.C. reservation?
The retooled letters-to-the-editor page contains an amusing revelation of the delicate liberal sensitivities of the paper’s readership.
The Times flagged a variety of complaints about a feature in the previous issue, showing nine handguns for women, “purse pistols” that writer Chee Pearlman described as “flashier, more feminine and easier to pop into a handbag.” The outcry, according to the Times:
52 messages objected to the magazine’s page on purse pistols.
9 accused us of glamorizing violence and guns.
8 contained some variant of the phrase “what were you thinking?”
4 suggested we were pandering to N.R.A.-member readers.
2 said it was too soon after the Tucson shootings to feature a page like this.
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Actually I am NOT SUPRISED.....
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 4:37pm.
The fact that the word GUN makes the blood pressure of most LIBERALS rise to astromonical levels is proof enough. See now they can go back to licking the drops or recycled Kool-Aide from the Obama Urinal... and feel good that they spoke out against guns. What they forget is that Guns bought them the freedom to drink deeply from the Obama Urinal... But to see that they would have to lift their bloated lips and focus on whats going on in the real world ... and to LIBERALS thats too hard so they will just keep drinking deeply..........
I Wholeheartedly Agree
Submitted by JustAl on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 4:35pm.
No liberals should be armed.
In fact, they should all put nice big stickers on their cars and apartment doors telling the world that they are unarmed and damned proud of it. Add that to abortion and homosexuality and we might be rid of them within a generation, two at the most.
What's the latest on the
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 4:46pm.
What's the latest on the D.C., Chicago & NYC gun ban laws? D.C. & Chicago lost? Has NYC been challenged as unreasonable? Funny thing is the NYC law was set up to protect the ruling sect of the mob. It was totally corrupt until fairly recently. The right mobsters had their legal gun permits... first class city. They should get the peace prize like OBombYa.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
DC and Chicago have made it
Submitted by ricklail on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:21pm.
DC and Chicago have made it almost impossible to get a permit to buy a gun. I think there are cases starting to wort their way back through the courts because of this. Dailey, has said that he could really care less about the SC ruling. I'd bet Dead Fish is carrying on the same way.
Daley is out. Berry's boy Ron
Submitted by Zippy on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:54pm.
Daley is out. Berry's boy Ron is in.....
All gun control laws
Submitted by Ashrak on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:54pm.
have been put in place to disarm the innocent.
Here is a good resource for Chicago stuff
By all rights, a landslide of lawsuits should be filed all over this country, and there are a few, but the NRA is busy mucking up the program as best it can. The "perfect test case" that is Illinois isn't being applied by the NRA, nope, instead, they are "working with the Chicago Democrats for a legislative solution".
There ought to be Title 42 section 1983 lawsuits flying, but no bar member is willing to go there.
Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.
Gun control laws are Unconstitutional garbage. Plain and simple.
10 years
Submitted by expatriot on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 4:48pm.
As a police officer for ten years I never had any of my weapons jump out of my holsters or gun cases and shoot anyone. The weapon did not arbitrarily shoot anyone or discharge. They only discharged when I pulled the trigger. I had a weapon on me almost 24/7 for ten years and they were all behaved, except when at the range and I pulled the trigger. I was lucky, and my friends and companions were not. I have 31 years in the military as well and the only time a weapon went off was at the range. I have never had to fire a shot in anger and feel lucky to do so. I have drawn my weapon on the job and in Afghanistan but never had to use it. These people are idiots.
I have never understood this
Submitted by Ruths husband Ben on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 4:53pm.
I have never understood this and I am not being facetious. I really don't understand this issue. I would think that the feminists would be ecstatic about empowering women to protect themselves. I would think that liberals would also be pushing gun ownership for minorities. There is nothing that eliminates victim-hood like taking responsibility for your and yours own safety and having the firepower to ensure it.
Considering the overwhelmingly positive evidence of all of the States which have passed "shall issue" concealed carry laws, one would presume that some learning amongst our liberal brethren could be taking place. Sadly, it hasn't happened.
Let me Try to Explain
Submitted by JustAl on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 5:09pm.
A Real feminist dutifully gets herself strangled with her own pantyhose in an alley on her way home from getting an abortion. After being impregnated by a rapist who drugged her at a rave after an Obama rally. That way she serves the cause by adding to the statistics of victim-hood.
Al
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:03pm.
You nailed it.
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n275/tugboatphil/GunControl001.jpg?t=...
Brutal Description
Submitted by dreamsincolor on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 3:30pm.
Now, rearrange the scenario where the woman has a cute little .32 in her purse and watch her transformed into an un-victim.
But, alas, the press would blame her, after all, the perp had a bad childhood, and his grandma and auntie say "he's a good boy"...
So many "good boys", so few bullets.
Pretty simple. Liberals hate
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 6:00pm.
Pretty simple. Liberals hate individualism and there is nothing more assertive of one's individualism and saying one has the right to exist than to carry and even use a gun for self-defense.
Congratulations
Submitted by Injest on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 10:22pm.
Congratulations, you just pull the curtain back and exposed the Wizard!
Feminists is not about empowering women, never has been.
“There is nothing that eliminates victim-hood.”
Without “victim-hood” what would liberals have?
An unarmed populace
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:24am.
is a controlled populace. This is what liberalismm is about in a nutshell. It's not about empowering anybody it's about socialistic control of the people. If only the police have guns then we will live in a police state. And that's what liberals want. They KNOW they wont be affected by these things.
Only 76 complaints?
Submitted by johnsonl on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 5:29pm.
I guess readership is down, huh?
76 Complaints
Submitted by blbtampa on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 6:15pm.
Their readership may be down but it looks like all of them responded.
Good one.
Submitted by johnsonl on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:54pm.
Well played, sir!
EXCELLENT NEWS !
Submitted by All American on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 6:49pm.
The fewer armed libtards the better!
That way when when they start their rebellion, we REAL Americans can respond appropriatly AND with confidence !
BTW : Is anyone else aware that Mega-scum Soros OWNS several arms and ammunition companies?
AA Which ones are those????
Submitted by Zippy on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:51pm.
AA Which ones are those????
Pink
Submitted by ammo john on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:26pm.
What a coincidence that the pic of the pink gun is what I was thinking of getting my wife: a Taurus PT738 TCP. I think the .380 would be easier for her to handle than the 9mm I have.
She loves to shoot, as does my daughter.
.380 ACP or 9MM short barrel.
Submitted by Zippy on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:53pm.
.380 ACP or 9MM short barrel. About the same.....
The Germans developed the .380
Submitted by johnsonl on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:57pm.
for police use after WWII, because they were not allowed to have "military caliber" pistols. They shortened a 9MM shell casing a bit and called it a 9MM "Kurtz" (short).
go figure
Submitted by Injest on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:00pm.
"for police use after WWII, because they were not allowed to have "military caliber" pistols. They shortened a 9MM shell casing a bit and called it a 9MM "Kurtz" (short)."
The "Kurz" round refers to the 7.92x33 Kurz. AKA 7.92x33 Kurtz
It was the first real round for the first real Assault rifle the StG 44 Sturmgewehr 44 or Storm rifle 44
The .380 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) was developed by John Browning
It was introduced in 1908 by Colt as the .380 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol).
1908 was before WW2, it was before WW1.
As with many rounds, the same round can have different names, this is one of them.
AKA .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, and 9x17mm are all .380ACP
As an odd note .38 bullets are actually .355 in diameter and .355 is 9.04mm.
And the most powerful 9mm handgun round is known as the .357 magnum, go figure?
Don't any of you believe in hollowpoints?
Submitted by no tingly legs on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 4:22pm.
I'd bet my Beretta with 9MM hollowpoints would be almost as effective as my 1911 with .45 ACP FMJ. Hopefully I'll never have an opportunity to find out.
9mm to inches
Submitted by m1xram on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 10:30pm.
9mm is .354 inches. Did you check out how compact a Glock 23 .40 cal is? Think you can get one in green but not pink. It's not much bigger but has a decent stopping power increase.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
Women may not like the .40.
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 4:26pm.
Women may not like the .40. I think it has a pretty sharp snap. May want to try at the range prior to purchase.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
My wife's gun is more powerful than mine.
Submitted by IdahoJim on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:37pm.
She has a 357 Magnum and I have snub nosed 5 shot .38 I keep in my fishing tackle box to scare off bears.
I do have a .45 caliber black powder revolver. I have not shot it yet because the cost of black powder, lead, etc. just keeps above the level I want to pay for recreational shooting.
IdahoJim
http://idahoandy.net
They didn't have mine in that article...
Submitted by Fenwick on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:11pm.
Here's my baby!
The S&W .357 they do have in that article is sweet - and very, very pricey.
These are handy. LCP .380 Ruger
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:12am.
Edit add link! -- These are handy. Light and small that it can be packed at all times, even in your own home. Get the small leather pocket holster. I think the TX Gov. uses it also: http://ruger.com/products/lcp/models.html They start at about $250 online (not retail). I see they have the chrome one now, $300, which I would get instead. I carry mine 99% of the time so it gets rubbed a lot. Had it re-blued and it does it again.
Would be nice to have the laser! That would be a big help. Perry hit a coyote on the fly with a laser one. That would be very hard with a tiny pistol.
There are now some very small 9mm which would be great also.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Gay Transgendered
Submitted by libBuster on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:23pm.
The Times could have avoided the critical reader comments by making clear it was portraying gay-transgendered women gun-owners. No self-respecting Times reader could have objected to that.
UN-KNOT YOUR PANTY HOSE, NEW YORK TIMES.......
Submitted by Herbster on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:32pm.
Women protecting themselves? Losing the victimhood status? Actually shooting a rapist/mugger/burglar? The (Liberal) mind is boggled. We need laws for FEMGUNCONTROL! ................Diid someone say, "Women in combat?" Oh, That's a different story. We need strong, dedicated, firearms trained women in the Armed Services. We're all for women in combat. However, strong, dedicated, firearms trained women in the streets of New York, San Fransicko, Boston, Chicago? Heaven forbid. They might actually rid society of some of it's vermin. The double standard (Continues) to live.
The more armed wopmen, the better!
If you carry, tell a lib
Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:47pm.
they can thank you for protecting their freedom and safety. Then watch them go apesh!t.
Seriously, I once asked a die-hard lib how the bad guys could tell her unarmed house from my armed house, as long as we all have the freedom to keep and bear (carefully ignoring her Volvo covered with Dem bumper stickers). Then I asked whether she'd feel the same protective effect if the bad guys knew all the law-abiding homes had been rendered gun-free. She hemmed and hawed and went all emo on me, but she couldn't answer the questions.
Game, set, match.
9-1-1: When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Hope for my daughter, the NY Lib
Submitted by TexasMom0517 on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 8:55pm.
The one thing that gives me hope for my New York dwelling over-educated liberal daughter is that she still believes in the right to bear arms and knows how to shoot a shotgun.
TexasMom...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 1:54am.
I think you'll find the majority of liberals acknowledge and support the Constituional right to bear arms--I certainly do--and many, like your daughter and I, own shotguns and/or other firearms. The dispute lies generally with the issue of regulation and the reasonableness of restrictions on use and ownership rather than with the right itself.
Jer
I agree, Jer,
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:35am.
about regulation and reasonableness of restrictions on speech and assembly, rather than the right itself. OH, Snap, that isn't what you meant? My bad....
UpNorth...your comment, uncharacteristically, makes
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:18am.
absolutely no sense.
Jer
Just commenting on
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 7:43pm.
you seeing the need for "regulation and the reasonableness of restrictions on use and ownership" of a right, Jer.
UpNorth...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 9:12pm.
Well, the government has been regulating both speech and firearms for hundreds of years. So, what's the problem?
Jer
So, what's the problem?
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Wed, 04/06/2011 - 11:47am.
Big government (that is here to "help" solve our problems).
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Over regulation, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 04/06/2011 - 7:46pm.
is the problem.
The fact that a bit of something is good does not mean that a bit more is equally good.
MD
The fact that a bit of something is good does not mean that a bi
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 04/07/2011 - 12:30pm.
"The fact that a bit of something is good does not mean that a bit more is equally good."
Excellent matthewdean!
Think about the IRS tax code! Adding more, and more, and more pages! Is it just about perfect now?
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Maximus---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 04/08/2011 - 12:16am.
the IRS tax code.
It would be impossible to pick a better example than that. :o)
ObamaCare may well be in the running, but it will likely take years for a final decision on which government agency is the worst.
Sad when the criteria for judging the efficacy of your government sectors has to be - "Well, it appears to do less damage than the others."
MD
TexasMom
Submitted by mandrake on Wed, 04/06/2011 - 12:01pm.
I'm just wondering how your daughter became 'over-educated'? Education is a good thing right?
It seems it
Submitted by Bob K on Mon, 04/04/2011 - 11:22pm.
Really got Liberals delicate lace-trimmed panties in a bunch............ And I'll bet women liberals were upset as well.
How Big Have Purses Gotten
Submitted by SaintGeorgeGentile on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 12:31am.
That Ruger Mark II is hardly what I'd call a purse pistol. And if we want to maintain accuracy only 5 of the weapons featured are pistols, the rest are revolvers. Plus, I'm nominating my Sig P232
All Sigs are excellent. 232
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 10:38am.
All Sigs are excellent. 232 about $550.
If budget is an issue, I opted for two Ruger LCP .380s, his & hers. They are about $250. I see they have the chrome one now, $300, which I would get instead. I carry mine 99% of the time so it gets rubbed a lot. Had it re-blued and it does it again.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Libturds love victims
Submitted by Ozconservative on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 1:38am.
and hate anything that prevents someone from becoming a victim....
Take One Shot At The NYT Readers and They Disappear
Submitted by Avitar on Tue, 04/05/2011 - 11:21pm.
The impulse to Kowtow to Muslims by NYT readers is because the saw what Muslims can do on 9/11 and now the greatest instinct is to Kow-Tow to the alpha males they are always going to crawl on the stomichs to the meanest bastard. This is why New York does not have the death penalty. New York just will not kill hose that need killing. Texas should send them a bill.