NYT Confesses: Mistake to Grant MoveOn.org Deep Discount

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By Clay Waters | September 24, 2007 - 10:25 ET

Over at Times Watch, I've been pretty hard on New York Times Public Editor Clark Hoyt -- finding most of the biweekly columns from the paper's inside watchdog to suffer from either an excess of corporate loyalty or to be simply pointless (when he's not sniping at the paper from the left).

So it was particularly surprising when Hoyt actually unbuckled his company badge to tackle an issue raised by conservatives -- the inflammatory MoveOn.org ad -- in his Sunday Week in Review column. Hoyt did some actual reporting and got a belated admission of error that the paper's actual news reporters were unable to uncover: It was a mistake to grant MoveOn.org a deep discount for its infantile attack ad against Gen. David Petraeus that appeared the very day he testified before Congress.

"For nearly two weeks, The New York Times has been defending a political advertisement that critics say was an unfair shot at the American commander in Iraq.

"But I think the ad violated The Times's own written standards, and the paper now says that the advertiser got a price break it was not entitled to."

....

"Did MoveOn.org get favored treatment from The Times? And was the ad outside the bounds of acceptable political discourse?

"The answer to the first question is that MoveOn.org paid what is known in the newspaper industry as a standby rate of $64,575 that it should not have received under Times policies. The group should have paid $142,083. The Times had maintained for a week that the standby rate was appropriate, but a company spokeswoman told me late Thursday afternoon that an advertising sales representative made a mistake.

"The answer to the second question is that the ad appears to fly in the face of an internal advertising acceptability manual that says, 'We do not accept opinion advertisements that are attacks of a personal nature.' Steph Jespersen, the executive who approved the ad, said that, while it was 'rough,' he regarded it as a comment on a public official's management of his office and therefore acceptable speech for The Times to print.

"By the end of last week the ad appeared to have backfired on both MoveOn.org and fellow opponents of the war in Iraq -- and on The Times."

Hoyt also seemed to contradict what ad executive Jespersen said last week in an online chat, no doubt set up to head off criticism about the ad. Indeed, the first question out of the box (excerpted below) dealt with MoveOn.org:

Q: " When the controversy came to a head, the Times spokeswoman explained that with advocacy groups, any customer willing to buy space on a 'standby' basis will get the same discounted price; while The Times does its best to accommodate with respect to the preferred date and placement, it cannot be guaranteed. Once the run date is known, the customer is usually informed. This is evidently what happened with the MoveOn ad.

"Some bloggers point to the fact that the ad, which ran on the day General Petraeus testified, said he would be testifying 'today,' and thus, The Times must have agreed to run it on that day."

Jespersen's response appeared to address the matter (so much for giving the paper the benefit of the doubt):

"Within the category of political or advocacy advertising it is common practice throughout the newspaper industry to offer a standby rate in addition to open rate advertising. When a group buys a standby ad, it can request a particular date for it to be run, but receives no guarantee that it can appear that day. The lower cost of such ads reflects the flexibility that gives us. Any political or advocacy group calling up today to request a standby ad would be quoted the same rate that MoveOn.org paid. It is also our practice to notify an advertiser, a day before, that we have room to accommodate his or her standby ad in the next day's newspaper, and at that point the advertiser can make minor changes in the text."

Reporter Charles Hurt of the New York Post added to the fun Monday, describing the response from MoveOn.org:

"MoveOn.org yesterday said it would pony up the full price it should have paid The New York Times for a full-page ad slamming Gen. David Petraeus, a day after the paper admitted giving the left-wing activist group a huge discount.

"MoveOn said it would wire $77,083 to the Times today to make up the difference for the ad that called the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq 'General Betray Us.'

"'Now that the Times has revealed this mistake for the first time, and while we believe that the $142,083 figure is above the market rate paid by most organizations, out of an abundance of caution, we have decided to pay that rate for this ad,' said MoveOn director Eli Pariser. 'We will, therefore, wire the $77,083 difference to the Times tomorrow.'"

Well, the George Soros-backed MoveOn.org can certainly afford it.

For a fuller version of this article, visit Times Watch.

Update/Other blog reactions (Ken Shepherd | 15:37):

  • Malkin: "the bias [at the New York Times] has reached full-blown metastasis"
  • RedState: "The Paper of Record's defense: we are incompetent."
  • Captain's Quarters: "If the Times wants to subsidize ads from political groups they support, then they should argue also for an end to the BCRA [Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act] and the nonsense it engenders. When that happens, we will at least get a straight answer for their editorial and advertising practices, and we will still have our First Amendment rights to criticize those as well."

—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.

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Anyone interested the entire NYT article is available/accessible here

JDW

CFR: Chung, Riady, Hsia, Trie, Huang, Hsu, Paw... Who's looking?

 

so, how many internal policies did the NYT violate ?

What's the count on this MOVE ON ad, for violations of NYT rate policy and standards on personal attack Ads  ?

The "Move on" payment of the AD rate difference only settles one count....there still the sponsorship of a personal attack on a Military commander in the War zone....an unsubstantiated attack, a Bias attack, and most of all....an attack that Hillary will not condem, while all good Americans and patriots condem such attacks on our Military leaders....

It's a Lose-Lose situation for anyone associated with Move On.

Sorry Hillary, nice try....better try and change the Subject, and never never debate a Republican for the next year...because the "move On" subject will surface in the Debate...along with your votes in the Senate.  

     

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

I'm Sorry I ate that Pie

But it was delicious....

I don't care how they slice

I don't care how they slice it, this means Pariser is admitting that the NY Times agreed to run the ad on a certain day, while charging them the "standby" rate.

Ponying up the full price doesn't change that fact.

NY Times Admits Nothing

It'll be a cold day in a hell when I accept a column by their Public Editor as an admission of anything.  The entire management of that newspaper should be embarrassed by this, and yet they remain silent.  Just because Clark Hoyt includes a few 'regrets' in his column, does not mean that Sulzberger, Keller or anyone else at the NY Times is fessing up to this disgraceful episode.  Jason Blair got fired for misrepresenting himself for the stories he filed.  Yet someone in the depths of the NY Times' staff was complicit in violating their own internal standars (what a joke) by arranging this disgraceful ad, slandering the good reputation of a decorated general serving his country during war, and all the NY Times can say is ". . .  it was a mistake".  No, what it was very clearly was a failed concerted effort to embarrass the general, before he appeared to deliver his report to Congress as required by law, and they were as complicit in this effort to slander him as was Moveon.org.  When the NY Times admits to this in an editorial, then and only then will their admission be accepted.

The complicity runs all the

The complicity runs all the way to the top. The NYT has become a partisan rag, plain and simple. The only reason they ponied up was because of the heat they felt from just and proper Americans. One more misjudgement in a long series of them. Perhaps that's why they're inches from bankrupcy. There are only so many lies, half-thruths, omissions, and sensationalist stories that people will tolerate. Even the most dense ultra liberal will eventually get sick and tired of being lied to and manipulated, and the Times just can't get more obvious about it.

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

And in the end

Bottom line, who does the NYT endorse for president?

Nobody in that party running for president voted against the integrity of the ad. None. MoveOn owns the party. NYT runs their disgusting ads. Who is bought and paid for and who is free?

JDW

CFR: Chung, Riady, Hsia, Trie, Huang, Hsu, Paw... Who's looking?

 

This is such typical

This is such typical leftist behavior anymore. Say something nasty and personal, see how it goes over, run for cover and make excuses when called on it, then throw money at it to make it "right". The NYT knew is was full of s**t when they ran the ad, when they LIED about the discount, and when they LIED about its violation of their "personal attack" policy (which is in itself a joke). I guess it was too complicated to figure that essentially calling a serving Army general a traitor (General Betray-Us) could in some way be construed as a personal attack. They play partisan games and get indignant when they're accused of being biased. As a matter of fact, I can't recall seeing more indignation than what the Lefties display when they're called on doing the same things (or worse) than the Republicans do.

Doesn't sound very different from Shrillary giving back a record figure in campaign contributions that she, as the "smartest woman in America" easily should have known was dirty money. But since she gave it back, it's all okay. Makes you wonder how much dirty money we haven't heard about that she hasn't given back. 

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

They always think that

They always think that "giving it back," a la Clinton, or agreeing to "make up the difference" in the ad price, a la MoveOn, makes everything OK. As if that would ever work for a Republican or a conservative organization.

The libs, who are really big on "motives" and "intentions", when it involves others, suddenly get very "flexible" when it's one of their own. Suddenly, the motive doesn't matter; she gave the money back, MoveOn is paying up, 'nuff said. Let's forget it.

 

Will we get to see the cancelled checks on this!

Will we get to see the cancelled checks on this!  Bet not!  Also, who is to say that any monies that were "given back" were!  We're to take them at their word!  WORD!!!  Geez, we are a gullible nation!!

You are right. And to take

You are right. And to take your thought one step further, that type of behavior is basically “Do whatever you want, and only give it back if you get caught”. That more or less sums up the Clinton years in a nutshell.

Jimbo says - "There is a fine line between freedom of speech and treason"

If NYT weren't confronted,

If NYT weren't confronted, they will not "confess". So then, to whom did they confess...to fellow leftoids. It would be appropraite that, instead of moveon.org wiring the difference to NYT, they should place an ad that reads: Don't ever believe what NYT put on their papers for it would only waste time...and at the bottom of the page would read: Don't believe either that we wired the money back! 

Big deal! So moveon.org

Big deal! So moveon.org bought a little ad in a newspaper. Soros gave moveon a paltry five million dollars whereas the right has yellow journalist Rupert Muroch who spreads propaganda via a multi-billion dollar media empire!

LOL! Great Entertainment!

"Big deal! So moveon.org bought a little ad in a newspaper"

No, blasted, they bought a BIG full page ad-in probably the biggest and most influential newspaper in the world.

" Soros gave moveon a paltry five million dollars whereas the right has yellow journalist Rupert Muroch who spreads propaganda via a multi-billion dollar media empire!"

LOL! On my planet, $5 million isn't a "paltry" figure, unless you're a professional athelete. Which NBA team do you play for?

And the predictable comparison to the "evil" Murdoch is irrelevant-Soros' net worth exceeds Rupert's by some 2 BILLION dollars.

Last time I checked, Murdoch hadn't spent $25 million of his own money to try and defeat a single candidate-which Soros did in 2004.

And Rupert never managed to run a well-respected politician out of his own party. Soros did that too.

If  Murdoch and "Faux News" were as powerful as you Kool-Aid drinkers believe, Bush would have beaten Gore by 10 points in 2000, Kerry by 20 points in 2004, and the Republicans would have held Congress last year. None of those things happened.

 

 

Did you quit caffeine again

Did you quit caffeine again blaster?  I thought you could do better than this hit and run yellow blogging you love so much.  Murdoch may own Fox and now WSJ but is far from rightwing.  Check your facts young patawan before regurgitating Huffington Talking points.

The only thing you should feel when shooting insurgents is the rifle recoil.

 

Fox is far from being

Fox is far from being rightwing?  Are you out of your mind?  Tell me Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Brit Hume, Chris Wallace, etc., etc., are not rightwing shills of the republican party.  Why do you think Bush hired Tony Snow as his spokesperson?  Was it because he was far from the ideology of the rightwing?

BOR a right wing shill?

BOR a right wing shill? Hahahahahahahaha! 

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Brit and Chris are what I

Brit and Chris are what I consider right down the middle. I enjoy this type of reporting, especially when it comes to politics.

If more so-called journalists reported like they do we would get a more balanced view of politics and world events. 

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