GMA in particular has a stake in making sure Americans believe they're destroying the planet, since the morning show has been a tireless purveyor of climate change propaganda. Stephanopoulos referenced the poll in introducing a segment on the new book "Superfreakonomics," which offers "radically different" solutions on how to "save our planet."
"Superfreakonomics" co-author Stephen Dubner agreed with Stephanopoulos that global warming "very well may be" a serious problem. But he then argued that "the proposed solution of carbon mitigation as the one and primary path [to combating climate change] will be too little and too late, and it's too optimistic."
He said that the "Superfreakonomics" solution is much more effective and realistic: a garden hose shot 100,000 feet into space, floating on balloons, pumping sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere.
Nathan Myhrvold, the founder and CEO of Intellectual Ventures, helped the "Superfreakonomics" authors determine the impact of this "solution" and he said that just a two-inch thick hose "would prevent arctic species from going extinct, like polar bears." He even claimed that "we could dial back the temperature of earth to anything you like. So we could eradicate global warming; we could take it back to pre-industrial levels."
Stephanopoulos wasn't buying such an easy solution to something the media has presented as catastrophically complex. He fretted:
But a lot of scientists who have studied this for an awful long time say you're not just simplifying, you're over simplifying. And here's what the Union of Concerned Scientists said about this book. They said, "The chapter on global warming is riddled with misrepresentations. The ‘Superfreakonomics' authors appear to have taken a purposely contrarian position on climate change, science and economics." They basically say you're being contrary for the sake of being contrary so you can sell books.
The "Union of Concerned Scientists" is, of course, a liberal group that claims global warming is "one of the most serious challenges facing us today." Dubner was unsurprised by their criticism because his book didn't represent the entrenched political and financial incentives of the global warming activist movement." Were he a global warming activist, "I would hate this book too," he said. Which makes sense. If climate change is the club you use to force Americans to behave only in ways you deem desirable, a solution to climate change is most unwelcome.
But Stephanopoulos defended groups that are "trying to save the planet":
Even Nathan Myhrvold ... says that this solution has to be the absolute last resort. And there is a problem. You talk about this in the book - you talk about these problems of externalities. One of the externalities could be people hear, ‘Ah well, ya know what? There's a real easy solution. We just need a garden hose.' So they get complacent. You take false comfort in this. And you don't do the things you need to do.
And Dubner readily agreed, replying, "Exactly. It could raise what we write about in the book - it could create an excuse to pollute." And so to calm media's fear that this solution could be just "too good to be true," Dubner added, "It's the idea of - you have seat belts in cars. Let's say you just added them. You make the driver much safer. Does that mean you want to go around driving drunk all the time? No, you don't."
And of course what would be a global segment piece without condemning the listeners for not doing enough. Did you buy a Prius thinking you could save the planet? Not good enough.
"There are a lot of kinds of misconceptions, particularly about carbon emissions," said Dubner. "It turns out that for every person who buys a Prius, to put out fewer carbon emissions, and then, if you drive to the grocery store to buy some hamburger, you're canceling yourself out. Why? Because the production of meat is incredibly greenhouse gas intensive. The production of kangaroo, let's say, is not. The reason why is because cows emit methane. All the cows and other ruminants in the world actually contribute more greenhouse gas emissions than all the transportation sectors of the world."
Well, nobody said being environmentally correct would be easy ... Wonder what kangaroo burgers taste like ...




















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Global Warming...
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 11:40 ET by adamsmithThere is no global warming, only scientists willing to distort data to hang onto their jobs with the support of corrupt politicians.
The biggest threat to the world is a United States with a Marxist in the White House, along with all his Red buddies...
Oh, and Al Gore, have a nice day, traitor............
Threat like this?
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 14:29 ET by MaximusBraveheartAn Explanation for Third World Poverty
by Walter Williams (June 30, 2004)
Did you learn that the United States is rich because we have bountiful
natural resources? That has to be nonsense. Africa and South America
are probably the richest continents in natural resources but are home
to the world's most miserably poor people. On the other hand, Japan,
Hong Kong, Taiwan and England are poor in natural resources, but their
people are among the world's richest.
Maybe your college
professor taught that the legacy of colonialism explains Third World
poverty. That's nonsense as well. Canada was a colony. So were
Australia, New Zealand and Hong Kong. In fact, the richest country in
the world, the United States, was once a colony. By contrast, Ethiopia,
Liberia, Tibet, Sikkim, Nepal and Bhutan were never colonies, but they
are home to the world's poorest people.
There's no complete
explanation for why some countries are affluent while others are poor,
but there are some leads. Rank countries along a continuum according to
whether they are closer to being free-market economies or whether
they're closer to socialist or planned economies. Then, rank countries
by per-capita income. We will find a general, not perfect, pattern
whereby those countries having a larger free-market sector produce a
higher standard of living for their citizens than those at the
socialist end of the continuum.
What is more important is that
if we ranked countries according to how Freedom House or Amnesty
International rates their human-rights guarantees, we'd see that
citizens of countries with market economies are not only richer, but
they tend to enjoy a greater measure of human-rights protections. While
there is no complete explanation for the correlation between free
markets, higher wealth and human-rights protections, you can bet the
rent money that the correlation is not simply coincidental.
With
but few exceptions, African countries are not free, and most are basket
cases. My colleague, John Blundell, director of the London-based
Institute of Economic Affairs, highlights some of this in his article
"Africa's Plight Will Not End With Aid" in The Scotsman (6/14/04).
Once
a food-exporting country, Zimbabwe stands on the brink of starvation.
Just recently, President Robert Mugabe declared that he's going to
nationalize all the farmland. You don't have to be a rocket scientist
to figure out that the consequence will be to exacerbate Zimbabwe's
food problems. Sierra Leone, rich in minerals, especially diamonds,
with highly fertile land and home to the best port site in West Africa,
has declined into a condition of utter despair. It's a similar story in
nearly all of south-of-Sahara Africa. Its people are generally worse
off now than they were during colonialism both in terms of standard of
living and human-rights protections.
John Blundell says that
the institutions Westerners take for granted are entirely absent in
most of Africa. Africans are not incompetent; they're just like us.
Without the rule of law, private property rights, an independent
judiciary, limited government and an infrastructure for basic
transportation, water, electricity and communication, we'd also be a
diseased, broken and starving people.
What can the West do to
help? The worst thing is more foreign aid. For the most part, foreign
aid is government to government, and as such, it provides the financial
resources that allow Africa's corrupt regimes to buy military
equipment, pay off cronies and continue to oppress their people. It
also provides resources for the leaders to set up "retirement" accounts
in Swiss banks. Even so-called humanitarian aid in the form of food is
often diverted. Blundell reports that Mugabe's thugs rip labels off of
wheat and corn shipments from the United States and Europe and re-label
them as benevolence from the dictator.
Most of what Africa
needs the West cannot give, and that's the rule of law, private
property rights, an independent judiciary and limited government. The
one important way we can help is to lower our trade barriers.
An Explanation for Third World Poverty by Walter Williams -- Capitalism Magazine
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3770
M-B
It's refreshing
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 11:49 ET by another_old_veteranThis seems to indicate the US public is wising up to the 'global warming' hoax perpetrated by Al Bore.
The Democratic party makes the Keystone Cops look like a precision drill team and 'their' Congress wins the Rube Goldberg award.
Does anyone remember
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 12:03 ET by richb313Does anyone remeber during the 70's when the world was headed fast to the next Ice Age that some of these very same scientists argued that the solution was to coat both poles in coal dust in order that the Ice would melt because more heat would be trapped? It is ARROGANCE to think that Human Beings can willingly change the climate. I do agree we are having an impact and have probably contributed between .3 to .7 degrees celcius of warming. The effects of Carbon Dioxide are well known but they do not have the effects that the AWG crowd would have you believe. Also Carbon Dioxide is less effective as the amount increases because it follows a logrithmic curve as all things in Nature do. Basically stated if a certain amount has a known effect to get the same increase in effect you have to double the input. Pretty soon the effects on the out put cannot increase anymore no matter the increase in the inputs. We are already at that part of the curve with Carbon Dioxide which only traps heat in two narrow bands of the Infared Spectrum.
Computer Models require you to believe that a positive forcing caused by increased water vapor in the atmoshere causes most of the warming but ignores the negative forcings of clouds. Clouds still cannot be modeled. Look AWG is an interesting Hypothesis and does deserve more study, but nothing more. We certainly should not be making public policy based on a hypothesis. AWG is not a theory because the elements of the hypothesis cannot be tested or measured or duplicated by independent researchers. Those that call it a theory do not understand the Scientific Method or they are deliberately distorting it for a purely political motive.
More proof of the
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 12:02 ET by mattmMore proof of the HOAX:
While banning U.S. off-shore drilling, Obama is financing it elsewhere.
Climate change my ( | ) - this is just marxist totalitarian demagoguery.
Remind me not to put these guys in charge of anything.
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 12:13 ET by Dave in TexasThat guy from superfreakonomics doesn't impress me much. Call me crazy, but I'm not too wild about the idea of trying to geo-engineer our climate. And then there's this:
"All the cows and other ruminants in the world actually contribute more
greenhouse gas emissions than all the transportation sectors of the
world."
I can't believe they've bought into this lie. The alarmists who argue this use some very creative accounting, false assumptions, and "indirect" side effects to get those numbers. Here is an example.
Lying is not just what you
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 12:42 ET by danboLying is not just what you say. It's also what you don't say.
Something is missing here. Look at the poll.
Question: Is there solid evidence the earth is warming?
Yes: April 2008; 71%.
Oct 09; 57%
I didn't see the report. Was the second part in it?
Question: Because of human activity?
Yes: April 2008; 47%
Oct 09: 36%
Question: Because of Natural patterns?
Yes April 2008; 18%
Oct 09; 16%
So according to this poll only a little more than 1 in 3 Americans believe in AGWing. And last time less than half believed in AGWing.
Their sample consisted of 365 republicans, 473 democrats, independents 543.
We already pay farmers not to farm. Why can’t we pay legislators not to legislate? PJTV
They are FOOLS
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 12:49 ET by jon_torlinYou know, I don't understand why these liberal idiots, the ones who actually believe in global warming, are trying to hard to control people and animals and etc to change the weather.(I know there are those in control who seek to control the people regardless, not the same group I'm talking about here)
The best way to deal with the climate, or weather, is to adapt to it, because it's folly to think man can affect it that much. Humans have adapted to the weather all the time throughout history through technology and innovation. Gee, it's raining, wear a poncho, or use an umbrella, don't try to figure out why it's raining! Anyone with a modicum of common sense would get this.
Try to introduce this logic to a liberal and see if they turn into a gibbering(possibly related to gibbs) mess. What's ironic is that you'd think an environmentalist wacko who supposedly worships Mother Earth would have the good sense to leave her alone.
-Jon
Global Warming initiatives
Fri, 10/23/2009 - 16:07 ET by Chris NormanGlobal Warming initiatives AKA Cap and Trade, etc. International Socialism to make the US as poor and miserable as the rest of the world...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.