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By Cal Thomas | December 07, 2010 | 01:01

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People who take polls for a living will tell you that depending on the methodology, the sample, how a question is asked and the understanding of the ones being polled, the outcome can pretty much be predetermined.

If you are dependent on a superior for your job and that superior tells you he wants a certain conclusion reached about a policy he wishes to implement, that, too, can affect the outcome.

Such is the case with President Obama, who has told gay rights groups he intends to end the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy and allow homosexuals to serve openly in the military. From the comments by Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Michael Mullen and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, it appears the president's message has placed their job security above what is best for the military and the country. Many lower-ranking officers do not share their opinion about the effects openly gay service members would have on our military.

The Pentagon poll touted by Gates and Mullen was "rigged," said a recent editorial in The Washington Times, which noted, "From the outset, the Pentagon had no interest in eliciting honest responses from the troops about whether the law ... should be preserved or repealed. Instead, soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines were addressed in terms of implying that repeal is inevitable."

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Furthermore, said the newspaper, "63 percent of respondents live off-base or in civilian housing and consequently answered that a change in policy might not affect them. Those in combat roles -- where unit cohesion and trust are life-and-death concerns -- gave a different response."

Of all the arguments made by the Obama administration for repealing the law, the one mentioned by Secretary Gates is the least defensible. Gates said Congress had better act before the law was "imposed immediately by judicial fiat." Perhaps Gates should re-read the Constitution, especially the part about the separation of powers. Article 1, Section 8 empowers Congress to make rules for the government and regulate land and naval forces. A National Review Online editorial labeled Gates' comment, "... blackmail via judicial imperialism."

What is more likely to happen if the policy is reversed is that tens of thousands of those currently in service will retire, or quit. During Senate Armed Services Committee hearings last week, Senator John McCain (R-AZ), cited another Pentagon survey, which found that repealing the ban could create an "alarming" troop retention problem at a time when the military is already shorthanded.

McCain said, "If 12.6 percent of the military left earlier, that translates into 264,600 men and women who would leave the military earlier than they had planned." McCain wondered if that is a "good idea in a time of war." The question should answer itself.

Gates and Mullen suggest that the troops can be conditioned into accepting openly gay service members. Would that include chaplains and religious soldiers for whom homosexual behavior is thought to be a sin? Will chaplains be disciplined if they counsel someone who is gay that they can change and be forgiven, just as heterosexuals who engage in sex outside of marriage can also repent and discover a new path? This proposed change in the law has more of a "fundamentalist" tone than fundamentalism. Submit, or else.

Why are we witnessing so many challenges to what used to be considered a shared sense of right and wrong? It is because we no longer regard the Author of what is right. Loosed from that anchor, we drift in a sea of personal "morality," deciding for ourselves what we want and ought to do and defying anyone who shouts "wrong way" as a fascist imposer of their personal beliefs.

The military is one of our primary national underpinnings. So is marriage. No wonder the gay rights movement seeks to undermine both. There are consequences when foundations are destroyed. The Congress has a duty to save us from the pursuit of our lower nature if we won't listen to that other voice. If they care.

(Direct all MAIL for Cal Thomas to: Tribune Media Services, 2225 Kenmore Ave., Suite 114, Buffalo, N.Y. 14207. Readers may also e-mail Cal Thomas at tmseditors@tribune.com.

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Submitted by texusmc on Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:56am.

I was in during the Implementation of Don't ask Don't Tell. Always struck me as odd, that a person wanted to walk into a room full of people and say "I am gay!" and not get his ass kicked. IF a straight guy were to walk into a room full of people and say "I am Straight!" he would still get his ass kicked. I had a few buddies who "came out" to me over my 20+ years of service. Odd that when they "came out" they were doing it so they could leave the service. Many men and women I have known WERE gay but chose not to say anything to keep serving. we all knew they were and didnt say anything because they were good Marines soldier and sailors. Those who want to server "Openly" usually are the trouble makers and have a hard time adjusting to Military life to begin with. Very interesting that other countries have done studies with various types of combat units (i.e. all male, all female, mixed gender and gay/lesbian). the attrition rates in the mixed gender units were so much higher than the all male. the kill ratio of the all female units were higher (motherly instincts kicked in i guess) but the kill ratio and combat effectiveness of the gay/lesbian units were undetermined. The Austrailian Defense Force (ADF) repealed their DADT in 1992. They have had fewer harrassment issues but have also not been involved in as many armed conflicts as the U.S. since that time frame and their data is lacking on total combat effectiveness. I have served with and worked with alot of ADF (straight ones as far as I could tell) and most of them were very proffessional . Do I think we need to repeal DADT? no. It is a psychological part of who you can and can not trust. THAT is what the combat troops are trying to tell Washington and the Pentagon. If you can not trust the person next to you, you will not make it through a tough combat deployment. if you are thinking, does this guy/gal think of me as a brother/sister in arms or something else, that little random thought that can pop into your head during a fire fight and cause you to pause, WILL get you killed.

"You cannot exaggerate about the Marines. They are convinced to the point of arrogance that they are the most ferocious fighters on Earth. And the amusing thing about it is that they are." --Kevin Keaney, US Navy chaplain, Korea 1951
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Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Tue, 12/07/2010 - 12:39pm.

The Pentagon poll touted by Gates and Mullen was "rigged," said a recent editorial in The Washington Times, which noted, "From the outset, the Pentagon had no interest in eliciting honest responses from the troops about whether the law ... should be preserved or repealed. Instead, soldiers, airmen, sailors and Marines were addressed in terms of implying that repeal is inevitable."

You're not giving our soldiers a whole lot of credit.  Are we to believe that our men in uniform lack the simple understanding that DADT is most certainly not inevitable?  Do soldiers not read the paper, do they not watch the news?  Certainly the message that Obama refuses to lift DADT without congressional approval must have reached our military, and this very poll was the basis for such.

I opine that the poll was certainly "rigged" to anyone who didn't like the results.  

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