Bozell Column: (Almost) Nothing's Sacred
In advance of Tinseltown's parade of Christmas insensitivities - they've already unloaded the marijuana movie "A Very Harold and Kumar 3-D Christmas" - let us stipulate that it's not just seasonal. The manufacturers of pop culture thrive on offending every traditional value.
Start with Pamela Anderson, the ridiculously surgically enhanced former Playboy Playmate, home-movie porn specialist and "Baywatch" star. She's been cast to play - are you ready? - the Virgin Mary in a TV "Christmas" special in Canada.
It's called "A Russell Peters Christmas," and Peters will play Mary's husband Joseph in the sketch "comedy." Peters was raised Catholic and attended a Catholic school until eighth grade. It didn't take, to say the least. The show will air as a holiday "centerpiece" in Canada on CTV and the Canadian Comedy Network, which also runs U.S. shows such as "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report."
Publicists are already touting the show with the usual lingo. It's "an irreverent twist on the Christmas special making it unlike anything viewers have seen before," and will be "tastier and more dangerous than a cup of spiked eggnog." Pamela Anderson does have reverence for one cause: Her Facebook page profile picture is an anti-fur symbol. Mock Jesus, but love animals.
Another very serious (if not sacred, surely profound) day on the American calendar is Sept. 11. That means 9/11 is just begging for satire, if you're Fox and Seth MacFarlane, at least. Two years after 9/11, college reporter Matt Chayes interviewed MacFarlane and said he "claims he would never do a 9/11 gag." That pledge has been violated repeatedly. Now he's devoted the entire plot of the Nov. 13 episode of "Family Guy" to mocking 9/11.
Stewie, the super-smart baby, invents a time machine. Pal, Brian, the talking dog, and he travel back in time to retrieve an old tennis ball. In the process, current Brian warns past Brian about 9/11, and, as a result, it's avoided. But when they return to the present, they find out that George W. Bush lost the 2004 election because he had no 9/11 with which to scare the public.
This historical twist results in Bush creating a second Confederacy - naturally - which starts another Civil War with nuclear strikes that kill 17 million people and turn the U.S. into a post-apocalyptic wasteland, of course. So the duo goes back to fix the past, and after they succeed, the baby declares, "We did it Brian! We made 9/11 happen! High five!"
Time magazine declared, "It sounds custom-made for a 'too soon' label, and it probably is. (Probably?) But avid 'Family Guy' viewers live for 'too soon' moments, no matter how sensitive the material."
This was proven over at their sister publication, Entertainment Weekly. EW couldn't be that judgmental. They took a poll and found only 19.5 percent in their web universe said, "Yes, it was incredibly insensitive," while the other 80.5 percent state "No, this was standard 'Family Guy' fare."
This is a terrible set of poll questions. One can agree almost weekly that "Family Guy" is "incredibly insensitive" and it's "standard" behavior for them.
Speaking of messing up the time machine, Hollywood is really going back in time to smear J. Edgar Hoover. They've never forgiven him for being a staunch anti-communist or for mucking around in the personal lives of their heroes, from the Kennedy's to Martin Luther King. When Time asked actor Leonardo DiCaprio how true the movie was to life he replied, "Historically, it's incredibly accurate."
That's quite a clash with the quote from his cast mate Armie Hammer, who plays Clyde Tolson, the close Hoover aide alleged to be his lover. "What really brings the film to life are the scenes that no one can prove happened."
The movie's climactic scene arrives when Hoover tells Tolson he's getting married. Tolson and Hoover wrestle, and Tolson kisses Hoover, only to have Hoover reject him. As Tolson storms out, Hoover begs Tolson not to leave and even says, "I love you." There's also a creepy scene when Hoover's mother dies. Hoover descends into a crying mess as he puts on a dress and a necklace.
The accusation that Hoover cross-dressed came from a convicted perjurer with mob ties; Soviet disinformation agents circulated rumors that Hoover was gay. But Hollywood doesn't care about sources or evidence when it makes "historical" movies. What they cared about was using ersatz history to promote the gay agenda.
Now that agenda is the closest thing to a unanimously sacred cause in Hollywood. Movie director Brett Ratner was just unceremoniously canned as director of the 2012 Academy Awards broadcast. He crossed the line by saying "Rehearsals are for (gay F-bombs)." That will get you fired. Mocking an FBI director, 9/11 or the Virgin Mary? That is apparently "How to Succeed in Business Without Really Trying."
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A Canadian "sketch comedy" about the Nativity?
Submitted by JohnMcGrew on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 9:11am.
I thought Canada had a "Human Rights Commission" to prevent and/or punish those who intentionally seek to offend religious sensibilities. I guess it only deploys when it's non-Christians who are offended. Who knew?
< / sarcasm >
Response to sarcasm
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:17am.
I get it, but I want to point out that Christians are not considered a "protected class" here. A while back, a heavy-metal, punk-rock (not sure which -- on the other hand, does it really matter?) band recorded a song with the chorus of "Kill All Christians".
Yep. You guessed it. The HRC wouldn't touch the case, even after a formal complaint had been filed, precisely because Christians were not deemed to be a "protected class".
Homosexuals, on the other hand, ARE a "protected class."
(Love the liberal-left dogma. Now THAT's sarcasm!)
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Gotta love the "equal" rights
Submitted by Bhaal on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:32am.
Gotta love the "equal" rights that minorities are pushing. Wonderful.
That was my point...
Submitted by JohnMcGrew on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:55pm.
...that like "speech codes" and "hate crime laws" here, "Human Rights Commissions" in Canada are nothing but tools of the Progressives to protect their constituencies, and to attack conservatives and anyone standing for traditional values.
Brent Bozell needs to grow a thicker skin.
Submitted by PolishBear on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 9:46am.
Yes, this is the time of year when conservative Christians get all bent out of shape about how their religious sensitivities aren't being respected enough. Someone says "Happy Holidays" (instead of "Merry Christmas"), and they just go ballistic and start calling for boycotts of the offending department store. And if television programmers take on the holiday season without the proper amount of reverence and bowing down before Precious Baby Jesus, WATCH OUT!
Well, Brent Bozell needs to grow a thicker skin. Christmas is the ONLY religious observance in the United States that causes both the public and private sectors to virtually grind to a halt. Non-Christians have little choice but to go along with it, so try to forgive them if they approach the holiday season with a degree of irreverence and risque humor.
Tell me, how many movies have
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:09am.
Tell me, how many movies have been released during Ramadan that swipes at islam? For that fact how many have been released that make fun of Muslims?
If you don't like what Mr. Bozell writes then move back over to Kos or Huff-Puff
"How many movies have been
Submitted by PolishBear on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:27am.
"How many movies have been released during Ramadan that swipes at Islam?"
Hmmm, sounds like the perfect project for Fox News. Talk to Greg Gutfeld about it. Maybe he could produce an anti-Islam segment for "Red Eye" ... although my guess is that he probably already has. Maybe he can poke fun at the fact that Muslims fast from sunrise to sunset during the month of Ramadan, an expression of faith that I don't think most rotund televangelists would even be CAPABLE of.
My guess is that the reason the Christmas season is ripe with possibilities for irreverent humor is the same reason I cited above: Christmas is the ONLY religious holiday that pervades American culture for both Christians and non-Christians alike. EVERYONE is familiar with the Christmas story. All the familiar elements of Christmas folklore are virtually BEGGING for parody. Even the shameless commercialism of the Christmas season was addressed by Charlie Brown and Snoopy.
Hmmm, another Sto'Bought sleeper
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:46am.
Brace yourself, people.
An epidemic is nigh.
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Got another sleeper troll
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:58am.
Got another sleeper troll here. Account is over 3 years old and only just started posting?
So rick asks you a question and what do you do? Deflect.
Brace yourselves folks, it's going to get bumpy with these trolls trekking on over here.
Amen, Scuba.
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:19am.
My reaction exactly.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Tell me, how many movies have
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:10am.
Tell me, how many movies have been released during Ramadan that swipes at islam? For that fact how many have been released that make fun of Muslims?
How about answering the questions. I could care less about Fox and Greg whatshisname.
ricktail
Submitted by CherryBomb on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:17am.
How many movies make fun of Hindus?
How many movies make fun of Buddhism?
Judaism? Shinto? Sikhism? Taoism? Wicca? Rastafaria?
Is "none" the correct answer?
Personally...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:26am.
...I haven't heard of any.
So if there were, they weren't publicized much.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Deflected again. Are you
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:25am.
Deflected again.
Are you pretending to be a goalie?
Scoobs, he's pretending
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:28am.
.....not to be Deddy.
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I didn't ask about those I
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:11pm.
I didn't ask about those I asked about Muslims.
How many movies have made fun of Christ/Christians? Let's add how many TV shows.
Wow another liberal cowards that comes on here
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:46pm.
to spout off copy and paste left wing numnut talking points, and then leave when someone calls your worthless self out.
And you morons on the left have been the thinnest skinned, wimpiest group of adult children that thinks if you tuck your head under the covers all the evil will subside.
By the way, please take the Polish and bear part of your name as your backbone is not strong enough to be either.
"Non-Christians have little
Submitted by redfish on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:04pm.
"Non-Christians have little choice but to go along with it, so try to forgive them if they approach the holiday season with a degree of irreverence and risque humor."
I'm a non-Christian, and non-religious. Speak for yourself and your own proclivities.
The religious side of Christmas is still rarely talked about in any public forum, movies, TV. I expect a token "Jesus was born today" and Bible quotation advertisement on Fox News, to appeal to people who watch their channel. Mainly Christmas in the public square is about Santa Claus and Christmas trees and giving gifts and watching touchy-feely programs like "It's a wonderful life". Lately its about Ashton Kutcher and Katy Perry and other celebrities doing over-produced theater schtick like "Baby, it's cold outside," and Mariah Carey trying to sell her new Christmas album. Its mostly secular. I don't feel at all like a "religious observance" is bringing my life to a halt.
I also think groups that sue businesses for saying "Merry Christmas", or businesses that think its offensive to say "Merry Christmas" are being ridiculous, given that what 90% of the country is Christian, and most celebrations aren't even religious. This may not be a "War on Christmas!", but it is about idiotic politics from the left.
Coming from a Jewish background, I think its stupid when Jewish people get bent out of shape when someone says "Merry Christmas" to them and act like they're being discriminated against. In the mean time, I'm going to enjoy the good spirit and decoration.
If there was something I wanted to make fun of, it would be other aspects of the holiday, like celebrities cashing in and ruining 50s Christmas songs which once had some charm to them. Anyone who is grumpy about Christians reading in their churches about the Virgin Mary and the Wise Men needs to get a life.
Red, I've had a similar conversation with my wife.
Submitted by Bhaal on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 2:25pm.
"Coming from a Jewish background, I think its stupid when Jewish people get bent out of shape when someone says "Merry Christmas" to them and act like they're being discriminated against. In the mean time, I'm going to enjoy the good spirit and decoration."
Not specific to any group but in general when people get offended by someone wishing them Merry Christmas or what ever the event, Hanukkah, Ramadan, Kwanzaa if someone wishes you a happy (insert holiday here), it is rediculous. Be happy! They are wishing you well. Isn't that what's important? For us when we had friends or co-workers who celebrated other holidays, we made sure to either participate with them or at least wish them a happy whatever is appropriate.
My take on the suing businesses is it reminds me of the bitter kid in school who no one liked because he was an ass but he knew all the rules and would use them against everyone and try to make them miserable like himself.
"Someone says "Happy
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 2:11pm.
"Someone says "Happy Holidays" (instead of "Merry Christmas"), and they just go ballistic and start calling for boycotts of the offending department store."
Hey, bozo, how many department stores have a policy that says "you must not say Happy Holidays"? Zero. No one will get fired for saying Happy Holidays.
How many department stores have a policy that says "you must not say Merry Christmas"? Too many. And employees will get fired/reprimanded/suspended for violating that policy.
It's crystal clear there is a war on Christmas, bozo, so open up your eyes and stop exposing your stupidity. No one wants to see it.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
There is...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:08am.
no war on Christmas Bozell...calm down.
How long have you kept your eyes closed?
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:20am.
Nothing to see here, folks... Move along now.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
...and your ears covered...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:29am.
...while going "tra-la-la-la...."
Maybe some good, ol'-fashioned Christian persecution might wake you up... oh wait...
Maybe you're now going to deny that there isn't any Christian persecution also.
Keep those eyes closed and those ears covered, buddy.
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
There was...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:07pm.
Christian persecution in the days of Paul. There is Christian persecution in the Middle East. To call Harold and Kumar and Family Guy Christian persecution cheapens the struggle of these brave believers.
I say this...as a Christian - there is no War on Christmas. Calm down.
As a Christian I say there is war against Christmas
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:51pm.
and Christians alike... what world are you living in? And why all the hate for Brett? Post somewhere else if you don't like what he puts on print. Why be an idiot and stick around for more "sanctimonious" opinion as you so eloquently put it?
It seems like you need to take your own worthless advice and calm down.
War against everyone
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:08pm.
Actually, it's a war against everyone, just that the attacks on Christians are the most prominent because they are the most easiest. I say easiest because unfortunately, there are too many Christians that seem to have forgotten that it's ok to fight back and we have too many that are "turning the other cheek" and that's all they do. Which is ironic, they accuse Christians of the things that they do themselves, attack, kill, etc.
But I say everyone because it's Islam vs Everyone Else. Islam is a patient lot and as they go after Christians, they will also go after Judaism(That's Jewish for those of you in Rio Linda), Buddhists, Taoists, Tibetan Monks, Hinduism, Atheists, anything else that's not of Islam. The people attacking Christmas and Christians are just helping those Islamists and there's a LONG history of that. Longer than the existence of the United States.
Again, there's nothing against fighting back against these attacks. If anyone who claims to be a Christian says that Christians should not fight back is a LIAR. Even if that person doesn't know he/she is lying, it's STILL a LIE.
-Jon
sure...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 9:37pm.
they can fight back - but they should do it with love. Turn the other cheek and all. We're already victorious...we know that, it is written. All this acrimony from Bozell and these threads does nothing for the Christian cause.
The Middle East...now that's another story. That's actual persecution, and I'd have trouble telling any Christian to turn the other cheek in that situation.
Thank you Deddy
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:37pm.
You may go now.
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I have...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:32am.
no idea whom Deddy is, although looking through the thread I see you think you're clever so...have fun with that.
Oh dont worry about us having fun*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:03am.
we are already having fun, since your first post........;-)
yeah!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:20am.
I don't waste time worrying about self-satisfied @holes. Let's say "sleeper account" a lot, and pretend we know what we're talking about!
But thanks for the advice :)
What's next, Deddy?
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:24am.
You going to tell her to f*#k off?
yeah!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:30am.
we're all idiots! Let's gang up on the new guy...he's a sleeper!
pathetic
Pathetic, yes you are.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:38am.
But thanks for admitting to being an idiot.
hahahahahahaha
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:51am.
you NB regs are so cliquish it's funny! Get it through your obviously well fortified skull - my name isn't Deddy. You're clever as my nine year old...now go sit with the cool kids and leave me alone ;)
Access denied
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:54am.
Will soon be your name, just like the libtard before you
blah, blah...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:55am.
I'm not a liberal blah.
Pathetic, with a side of ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:50am.
arrogance, oddly enough; and an overall smell of dipshit.
MD
no seriously...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:54am.
I've met you before matthew...I know you're not this dumb.
Oh well...stew long enough in the dregs I guess.
Don't recall that meeting, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:00am.
and even though it is most certainly a free country, I wonder if acting the ass is how you attempt to show your prowess at being argumentative with the NB "clique".
MD
I hardly believe
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:36am.
I was acting the ass! The "clique" as you call them immediately assumed I was a sock puppet and attacked me. It's the reason I've not posted in quite some time...y'all can't seem to handle even the least contrary ideas. You won't meet a more ardent conservative as myself. I don't like boards where ideas are squad cars getting a healthy dose of #2 :)
And prone to giving orders, as well---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:56am.
What a tough hombre.
MD
you always say that!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:36am.
Get a new comeback, it will serve you well.
Some of us have moved on
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:55am.
You should too
hahahahahaha.....
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:42pm.
you move on cause I'm right. I haven't posted here for a long time, so I'm just starting where I left off - being berated by my fellow conservatives :(
(internet laughter.....)
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:52pm.
Trolls always proclaim victory in a game only they are playing.
Yay, monkeypipplez iz done caringz aboot trolliz! Meaningz to say is winnerz! Iz fictoree lappz nah!
you're preoccupation with trolls is strange...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:34pm.
are you also a fan of hobbits and gnomes? Cause they're awesome!
I am right...evidenced by your complete lack of counter argument. I assume you'll just say, "it's a dead thread", so it doesn't matter. That's the refuge of weak minds. Have fun in your intellectually stunted cave.
Let me give you a little clue, then
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:43pm.
You see way up there where you replied to cajun, with a rather ugly reference?
That was the troll tell, silly. Contemplate that as you wait for your next account. If you want a "debate of ideas", as I've seen you state, then don't go slinging around name calling and f-bombs.
That is all.
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Blonde.... Wipeout heh heh
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 2:15pm.
Surfs up big time here, perfect boards for going over the falls. Maybe some wipeout photos for your goof list.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/01/04/article-1344126-0CA51FAB000005...
You Didn't Build That.
I'd love to see that, upc
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 2:31pm.
Don't those amateurs know you need a bag for your board on an aircraft?
Florida's not too bad on your "free" list. Looks like you are really in the weeds, deep blue ones!
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J, Those boards could fit in a 1st class seat
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 2:57pm.
I hope those men in the photo aren't doing dawn patrol on Kailua Bay.
You Didn't Build That.
I don't see an ugly reference...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 3:14pm.
I see a good debater. I'm sort of ashamed that y'all have treated him so badly. Troll this, troll that. What's wrong with a little fun conversation? I've also seen plenty of people drop actual curse words, not censored ones like ridunculous. Stupid name by the way. But he seems smart and Christian and conservative. I don't understand the hostility. I also don't understand why this thread is still going! Apparently ridunculous has some talent...at least at pissing off conservatives, which he seems to be one! Read his posts! Anyway. I though they needed a little support...you people are jumping him for no reason and I think they're pretty funny. Hobbit sex! Common people...let's get some humor.
Mutation is faster now. Down to a few minutes
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 3:34pm.
Zipperplague
You Didn't Build That.
what?
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 3:48pm.
mutation like X men?
Or am I a sock puppet now too? Why do you hate spirited debate? You and the dunculous man sure love guns and shooting pigs! Find some common ground and debate the issues...it will improve the commentary on this site exponentially. Perhaps you hate contrary conservatives because they trump clueless liberals? Too hard to defeat? Funny thing is the dunk man was very agreeable and humorous in their dissent. I like them.
Hummm Posting away on a Month old thread.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 4:24pm.
And the first posting by you in 31 weeks, what are the odds the odds.
You Didn't Build That.
the odds...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 4:49pm.
I suppose are numerical statistics and such.
Obviously you know EVERYTHING, so why bother arguing. But I post here infrequently because it's probably the worst comment section on the internet. Try Ace of Spades. Try Hot Air. Try iOwnTheWorld. Try Legal Insurrection. They all trump this site. Debate is welcome there.
I think it's shameful how you treat a fellow conservative. This is an exchange of ideas....not a troll pile on. I think ridunc might enjoy that! An actual one with gnomes and other sexy little people.
Have some fun! Holy crap. I swear NewsBusters is the most humorless board in existence. Did you get dunk banned? Where are they? What a bunch of wusses. OMG! A view that doesn't match mine completely!
what!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 9:22pm.
I assure you my friend...I'm calm. Bozell is fine. I just don't enjoy his rants about "sinners" and "the homosexuals!" Not all conservatives are social conservatives...deal with it.
In the West, there isn't a
Submitted by redfish on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:43pm.
In the West, there isn't a war against Christians, there's a war against religion in general, Christians are just first up to the bullseye because they're the religious people that people have to live with the most.
And in the end
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 4:25pm.
redfish, you may not realize this, but while there's a "war on religion in general," no one seems to be waging war on Islam, which is not just a religion but a form of government for Muslims. Why do you suppose that is?
There are many attempts to bring Sharia to this country and CAIR is the front runner for it. It's prevalent in several cities already, most notably Tulsa, OK, and Dearborn, MI. Even a couple of the OWS sites were being encouraged and paid for by CAIR among others. Judges are even (and wrongfully) using Sharia to dictate a few cases here in the states.
So this "war on religion in general" seems to be a bit one-sided when one of the biggest cults in the world is the one that stands to win when that "war on religion in general" is over, wouldn't you say?
-Jon
You know the really funny part, Jon?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:13pm.
If the Moooooooslems and the RBFSOB communists should succeed in winning this country, they will immediately begin to kill each other. Communists can't stand ANY religion, and Mooooooooslems can't stand ANY person who isn't a follower of the camel driver.
Even funnier, if the Moooooooslems defeat the RBFSOB communists, then the various sects within the crazy pack of fools will begin to kill each other off.
If the RFBSOB commies win, well they've already proved more than once that they will willingly kill millions of their own followers for any little old reason.
Any way you skin it, unless democracy and Christianity win out, the question, "Can't we just all get along" seems a pretty silly concept.
Lock and load.
there is...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 9:42pm.
certainly a war against radical Islam. A real one...with fighter jets, drones, and bullets.
And this offends you....
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:38pm.
Why?
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It doesn't...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:29am.
offend me. They said no one is at war with Islam - I'm pointing out the obvious flaw in that argument.
Does this offend you?
No one IS at war with Islam,
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:27am.
you've bought into the AQ propaganda. Or is AQ representative of Islam? We are at war with those who would kill us. If that includes those practioners of the religion of peace, too bad.
Not so.
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:41am.
Everyone who is not yet under the yoke of Islam is at war with Islam, whether they know it or not.
Islam divides the earth into two spheres, Dar al Islam and Dar al Harq : the world of submission and the world of war, respectively. In the former, all are subject to the will of Allah. i.e. they are subject to sharia. In the latter is incessant jihad promulgated by the followers of Islam whose object is to impose sharia on the non-muslim world by force.
No Infidel will be allowed to live in peace unless the last Muslim has drawn his last breath. It is not possible to peacefully coexist with this religion.
"It is not possible to
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 9:26pm.
"It is not possible to peacefully coexist with this religion."
I realize that you're making this claim from more of a global standpoint; however, as a non-Muslim who lives in a neighborhood of an American city that is very disproportionately Muslim, I think that's something of an oversimplification.
And Neville Chamberlain thought Britian could
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 9:29pm.
co-exist peacefully with the Nazi's. We know how well that turned out.
Just keep sticking your head in the sand and pray the rest of us aren't doing the same thing.
Sorry to hear that. Time is on their side Rupert.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 9:41pm.
FYI It's not murder if one of those happen to kill you, infidel.
Just a heads up... er off...
You Didn't Build That.
Rupert manned up and admitted he was wrong---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 10:00pm.
about OWS.
I believe he might be wrong about Islam, as well.
I see no moderation either in the Quran or in the practices inherent in the Islamic Jihad Movement.
Those Muslims Rupert lives amongst are either biding their time before revealing their true commitment to their religion; or are awaiting their turn to be beheaded by the jihadists because of a lack of proper reverence for and adherence to the dictates of The Prophet.
MD
Read their evil book.
Submitted by NL207 on Fri, 11/25/2011 - 2:03am.
The Koran and Hadith spell all this out in detail. No true believer can tolerate the infidels. [that's you and everybody else who does not believe as they do] The history of this vile religion is 1400 years of war, murder and pillage aimed at the subordination of all infidels to Islam. They attack ALL non-muslim neighbors. ALL. They have done so for 1400 years. This will not change unless Islam undergoes a reformation.
There can be no negotiation with these people. This can be seen by answering one simple question : which of your life, your faith or your liberty do you propose to surrender to them in exchange for peace? For this is exactly what they demand under pain of jihad.
I have an alternative suggestion : Peaceful coexistence may also be obtained by arranging face-to-face meetings between Allah and his followers. Of course Obama and the entire Democrat party have no stomach for any of this which is why they are unfit to lead the United States of America.
you'll have to enlighten me...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:25pm.
what is the AQ?
You've actually just proved my point. We are at war with radical Islam which is NOT btw the religion of peace. Islam is entirely different from the fringe terrorists, just as Christianity is entirely different from the fringe terrorist abortion doctor murderers.
Thread is dead.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:35pm.
No one cares anym.... Strike that. No one cared a month ago whether you came, left, died, or had lunch. No one cares now.
Only idiots and spammers start posting on a thread that has been dead for a month.
Go away troll.
why are you posting then?
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:49pm.
I assure you I'm not an idiot. Want to compare IQs? I'll give you a hint...mine's triple digits and I wipe my ass with 150 :)
The issue is hardly dead...the war on Christmas is a constant theme on NB. I'll give you that this thread is dead :) but it's the last one I commented on because of so many inane attacks on me from my supposed allies.
But whatevs! Call me a idiot...call me a spammer. It shows your intellectual capacity and childish nature. The intertubes are great for that!
We having a conversatin here, troll?
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:01pm.
Your first clue. I am not responding to anything you say. I am instructing you and you are having serious problems comprehending. Once more ---
The thread is dead. Go away.
I know I'm smart and sexy...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:23pm.
but I'm taken! Please stop stalking me and suggesting I'm the one continuing this conversation. I'd be thrilled to never see The Vet again...unless you're hot, in which case we should meet up...have a pizza, maybe some sex.
Iz notta troll. Honext.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:29pm.
Wut? Iz nuttin' hiding behind back. Ok. Ok. Juzz trolliz biblez, new tastimantz.
13. Claim you are being stalked on an open public website. Dead Zippers: ...Says Newsbusters' resident stalker. . ... You have a sick, sick obsession with me.
Yes. You have convinced us troll. You really are a monkeyman. Yay! Win again!
Pack sand Dead Zippers. Pack it tight. Leave it smooth.
you are...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:41pm.
making less sense as you go along...are you drinking before 12? That's a no no!
I make a perfectly acceptable offer of hobbit sex (I'm great in the sack) and you attack me once more :(
fine! You're only interested in troll sex. BIGOT!
Ridiculous! Yea one death is a tragedy
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:57pm.
a million is a statistic.
Games moslems play
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Games-Muslims-Play.htm
You have been played pawn boy.
You Didn't Build That.
hey! It's ridunculous!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:07pm.
I've been played! That's hilarious (not as funny as that jet following Osama on a magic carpet!)...how many were killed in the Christian Crusades? Religions are by their nature exclusive, and Humans are by their nature stupid. All religions kill but I refuse to call Islam the gold standard. There are good ones and bad ones, just like Christians. I like to think I'm a good Christian :) I only kill feral hogs from helicopters with giant guns :)
More Redundancy. L@@K what you missed in my link
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:18pm.
The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after the capital of the Christian world, Rome itself, was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.
By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.
You Didn't Build That.
fair enough....
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:53pm.
so you're in the camp that history repeats itself? The Great Muslim caliphate is returning with a vengeance? I don't disagree completely. The Arab Spring is basically a Sharia resurgence. Glen Beck who so often is wrong, was berated for his commentary to this effect. Glen Beck was right. My point is Islam is not inherently bad...only its jihad bent fringes and its war against women and (yes I said it!) gays. Let's face it...a Muslim caliphate poses no threat to the West. Our army can wipe out these third worlders while enjoying tasty MRE's. Check out this fantastic War Porn from Weasel Zippers...great fun!
http://weaselzippers.us/2011/12/15/must-see-monday-night-war-porn/#comments
I've seen the photos...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:03am.
http://www.cableguy.net/fun/TradeCenterBombing/F16ChasingOsamaBinLaden.jpg
You Didn't Build That.
HA!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:31am.
that was hilarious!
I feel sorry for you...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:30pm.
come out to Texas and we'll shoot feral hogs from helicopters with giant guns....now that's freedom baby!
Pigs are a PEST, People have lots of ideas on ways to get rid
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:02pm.
of them.
My personal favorite, they provide the weapons.
http://www.tacticalhogcontrol.com/
You Didn't Build That.
stinkin' hogs are dangerous!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:11pm.
They can kill a man, big ass fvckers! We have a large population of coyote on our ranches, but mostly leave them alone. My dog even plays with them sometimes.
Harold and Kumar
Submitted by CherryBomb on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:38am.
Something tells me I'm going to enjoy this movie as much as I have the others.
As for the annual "War on Christmas," well the complaining has gotten a bit boring. Why even bother writing a new piece on this when you can recycle the past 10 years worth of articles claiming much of the same - here in America, an overwhelming majority population of Christians feel repressed by the minority who don't share their fantastical beliefs.
Good morning, Zippers
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:49am.
Up early, aren't you?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
FAIL
Submitted by CherryBomb on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:52am.
It's almost 10 Blondie. And if you ain't making comments specific to the story, then you're just an ugly old troll.
You an ugly old troll? Or just the sto'bought variety? Noooooooooo, not that!
Looks like Deddy is looking
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:09am.
Looks like Deddy is looking to start work on account # 10.
And it looks like she/he/it has used up all the sleeper accounts it created.
It's only been 10????
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:40pm.
Seems like Deddy's had more accounts than Obama's had gaffes
why is everyone Deddy?
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:38pm.
heck, maybe it is Deddy, but I'm sure as heck not. I've been accused of being so...I guess it's because I don't agree wholeheartedly with everything you NB's say. Have a little tolerance for debate why don't you?
There's no war on Christmas. My family will gather as usual, I'll read the Christmas story and play "Thy Word" by Amy Grant like every year. We'll have presents and fun and praise the Lord. I'll say Merry Christmas to countless strangers on the street. The "war" if indeed there is one is epic FAIL (to use the current vernacular).
Thread is dead.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:41pm.
The game has been called. The players have left the field. The crowd has gone home. Those people in the bleachers are janitors.
No one cares troll. Go away.
apparently you care!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:53pm.
My brother is a vet, my father is a vet, my grandfather is a vet. I hold vets in the highest standing, so good job!
And for the last time...I'm likely more conservative than you. I'm not a troll, I just enjoy the debate of ideas...sans name calling.
Whatever.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:57pm.
Us vets know the meaning of the word care as I mentioned in the post above.
care: 1b - to feel interest or concern <care about freedom>
There is no level on that. No one still cares. Ain't like we could care even less now,
The thread is dead. Go away.
you go away!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:15pm.
the thread is dead but you're STILL TALKING!
do you just really like me? :)
Iz not a troll. Honext. Cross both heartz.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:23pm.
Iz conservatiz monkeyman. Rilly. Iz win agin! Yu talk! Iz win! Iz gotz lazz wurdz!
Pack sand troll and stop spamming up the joint with your constant declarations of victory. It is boorish.
I'm sorry
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 3:24pm.
but I think they did win this one Vet. You didn't say anything. You just made fun of them. How old is this thread!
He still drew you out. Next time just converse with them. It's always beats the troll stuff. I'm not sure if you could have won, but at least you come out looking better and more reasonable.
What a nasty reply to a friendly query.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:30am.
Oh well. At least you didn't send me a nasty pm this time.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Such biting PM's!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:18pm.
He (it has to be a he) must have spent hours thinking up that retort!
My guess is, that phrase sticks in his seedy little mind because he has been forced to take up the practice himself, since he is soooooo attractive to the opposite sex, I'm sure!
Let's see if the troll has the rocks to start throwing around Moooooooooooooslim (credit to Killa) insults, or is he as chicken Shiite as I think he is.
I think the guy has either
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:16pm.
I think the guy has either been 'emboldened', or is jealous of, Cleventine............since ol' Clevie-Poo has been creating such a stink around here for the past 3-4 days........although I'm going to bet that his number is coming up pretty soon.
I have to rename your favorite drink, bubba.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:22pm.
I've been calling it the cherry bomb, for obvious reasons, but I just can't do it anymore.
Maybe the Cherry Popov?
Absolut-ly Cherry?
Cherry Goose?
Hey...........I used to date
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:10am.
Hey...........I used to date a girl in high school who had a brother named Lance Cherry!!! I'm not making this up!!! At least his nickname wasn't 'Buster'............
Come on
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:41am.
Ch-ch-ch-ch-Cherry Bomb. No reason to dive right into nasty. You seem to get angrier by the day around here.
ignorance of historical proportions
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:42am.
I was listening to some high school students talking the other day and one sophomore girl was talking about sex and who was doing who. She had an amazing depth of knowledge on the subject of all things sexual and her unabashed outspokeness was kind of jaw dropping for a girl of around 15. But... when the conversation turned to the Viet Nam exchange student the sex obsessed girl says "Wasn't there a war there or something? Was that Pear Harbor?".
A future democrat voter if there ever is one.
And undoubtedly
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:42pm.
This mental giant could name every Kardashian. Or every sleazy reality show on MTV
There is one set of
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:08am.
There is one set of traditional values that hollywood never offends islamic family values.
I tried to get our lastest
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:12am.
I tried to get our lastest troll to answer 2 questions. Instead he went on a rant about Fox and Greg Whatshisname.
Tell me, how many movies have been released during Ramadan that swipes at islam? For that fact how many have been released that make fun of Muslims?
Actually, he addressed your
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:21pm.
Actually, he addressed your question precisely. In order to parody a religion or a holiday in a mass marketed television show or movie, the filmmaker would need for the majority of the audience to be familiar with at least the basics of said religion or holiday. Since the Christmas narrative is extremely well-known to the vast majority of Americans, not only are the parodied elements recognizable, but there is a sense that we are poking fun at ourselves.
By comparison, what does the average American know about Islam and its observances that would be so ripe for satire? I'm sure an hour of jokes about the Fatimid era and Zakat would be a huge mainstream hit.
The poster above was absolutely correct, the cheap shots at Fox News commentators and televangelists notwithstanding. An obscure (in the U.S.) holiday celebrated by a culture that most Americans associate with terrorism and little else vs. a ubiquitously observed holiday that comes with a widely-known story and a set of rituals that most of the populace indulges in for well over a month (I'm sitting in a cafe as we speak trying to drown out syrupy Xmas music with my iTunes and headphones and we're still 5 days from Thanksgiving). The question of why other religions are not lampooned, political correctness aside, is obvious. The jokes would go over most Americans' heads with a resounding whoosh.
Thus speaks yet another
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:29pm.
Thus speaks yet another sleeper account. Account is almost 5 years old!!!!!!!! And you only just started posting a month ago?
You must be polishbears sock puppet.
I don't really know what any
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:15pm.
I don't really know what any of the things in your post mean. But if you care at all, I posted with some regularity back before NB reformatted and all pre-2010 comments were purged. I've never seen a message board community so cliquey as NB that people who don't post every single day are automatically dismissed as "trolls" or as disruptive liberal operatives.
You may have a point, Rupert.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:35pm.
There really isn't much funny about a "religion" that relishes blowing up women and children, stoning people, raping rape victims, etc, etc.
I do enjoy Hoooooockkk-med, the Dead Terrorist sometimes. I'm still trying to figure out how that comedian has managed to stay alive.
Well no, there certainly is
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:21pm.
Well no, there certainly is not anything funny about those things that some muslims do that so many Westerners like to believe all muslims do.
But my point is that jokes about the actual religious aspects of Islam would be met with blank stares from most Americans. To cite a religion less often affiliated with terrorism, someone else also asked why Hinduism isn't parodied. Same response. Wry one-liners about the many arms of Vishnu or the overcommercialization of Diwali or how grandma always overcooks the Dal Makhani and naan every year wouldn't exactly resonate with Americans, would they?
Newsbubba
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:47pm.
"I do enjoy Hoooooockkk-med, the Dead Terrorist sometimes."
Who? hehe
Achmed has a son in Jeff's new video, Controlled Chaos. And Jeff is now the highest paid comedian in the world, so he can afford ample security
Well then, Rooooooop, maybe
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:21pm.
Well then, Rooooooop, maybe you can tell us why there AREN'T parody movies and send-ups of Islam in all of those Moooooooooooooooooooooslem countries??? I'm sure that they would 'get' the humor, right??? Hmmmmmmm?????
I think your O and M keys are
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:23pm.
I think your O and M keys are stuck.
How on earth should I know? And how is that relevant? Aren't we discussing what American TV and film producers do relative to Christmas? Are you suggesting we should take our media production cues from those Muslim countries?
No rooooop - my keys aren't
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:21pm.
No rooooop - my keys aren't stuck - which is more than I can say about your mind. What's relevent here is that Islam is 'out of bounds' for ANY form of ridicule, derision, comedy, humor, or anything else ............even in their own countries, much less ours. You remember what happened when Time magazine ran some fabricated story about the Quran being flushed down the toilet? Are you aware of various acts that have happened to infidels who have 'insulted' the 'religion of peace'?? Are you aware of how Islam is coddled and protected here in the USA, becuase we need to be 'tolerant' and 'open-minded'???
Of course, when it comes to Christianity, Catholicism, or Judahism - or even Mormanism - all bets are off, right???
But DON'T you dare spill any beans about the mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooslems!!!!!
Rupert Cadell, Your post is fresh out of 1999
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:27pm.
Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9/11
After all, the price of liberty is eternal vigilance.
Oh Ok.. Try some movies how about moslem love: "When the Prophet married Aisha she was very young and not yet ready for consummation."
Just a Like a Romeo and Juliet story, right Rupert.
But wait theres more: Hawaii “Islam Day” secretly marks September 11
Hawaii has no Christianity Day, no Judaism Day, and no Buddhism Day--but Hawaii's Democrat Legislators—with the loud public support of Ron Paul connected Rep Kym Pine (R-Ewa)—passed a resolution to create Islam Day.
You Didn't Build That.
I thought the Stoning of
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:31pm.
I thought the Stoning of Sonya (can't remember the last name) was a powerful and well-made film, if that helps at all.
I'd certainly see nothing wrong with dramatizing some of the very disturbing elements of patriarchal Muslim culture that you're talking about. But again, that's relevant to cultural practices not a specific holiday observance. It would be like someone making a film all about some social problem we have - say cyberbullying or obesity - and saying that because it's about a Western social issue, it's somehow by default about Christmas.
The moslems think so,infidel.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 2:56pm.
The libs and other moslem apologists ganged up on this movie.
An American Carol Trailer 2008
A clip.........
The Stoning of Soraya M., yea good movie.
You Didn't Build That.
In all fairness, An American
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:21pm.
In all fairness, An American Carol WAS pretty bad.
Though if the allegations about ticket sellers misrepresenting sales was indeed true, well, that's pretty uncool.
You didn't like it.
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:55pm.
...cuz it hit too close to home. Just about all libs are the same: they can dish it out but can't take it. Mock Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Christianity, America, Tim Tebow, anything that's decent and moral? Hilarious, brilliant, Oscar worthy! You'll get awards, accolades and best of all, lib street cred. Mock Obama, Michael Moore, gays, Muzzies: terrible, bad, not funny, Right wing kooks, Fox News watchers, Koch Brothers worshippers, not even worthy of recognition!
No, I disliked it because it
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 5:10pm.
No, I disliked it because it was painfully unfunny. I thoroughly enjoy when liberalism, especially of the bourgey self-righteous variety, is taken down a peg or three; but, and I don't mean this with any disrespect, just my opinion: Attempts at humour that come from an emphatically right-wing position tend to fall really flat. A rare exception, in my mind, would be the show King of the Hill (which, surprisingly, I've seen Mr. Bozell very misinformedly rail against in one of his anti-cartoon screeds). But that's because it's quirky and has well-developed characters, and the criticisms of liberalism are situational and believable.
I admit...
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 5:22pm.
...I haven't seen American Carol. The trailer looked funny to me, but only in the "funny cuz it's true" sense. King of the Hill was a great show, and it mostly was right wing, or at least moderate, skewering left wing stereotypes with a skill rarely seen. It often portrayed left wing screwballs in a sensitive light, showing them as more misguided, rather than evil. But I find it impossible to believe that no right wing humor is funny (I know you didn't say that, but bear with me). There's a surprising dearth of it on television and in the movies, and standup comedy. Why is that? Maybe Hollywood is DELIBERATELY censoring it. Mike Judge did another show called (I think) the Goode Family, which went after many cherished left wing, politically correct sacred cows. Critics hated it and it flopped. So was it really that bad (never saw it either), from a man whose work is consistently high quality, or did the critics WANT to hate it, because it went against their politics?
BTW ventriloquist Jeff Dunham and his sidekick Brian "Guitar Guy" Haner are both right wing and incredibly funny. Dunham is the highest paid comedian in the world right now, and there's a market for right wing comedy, but a lack of people giving it to us. That's one reason why, among many, that Dunham is so successful
Goode and Dunham
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 5:44pm.
I tried watching the Goode Family, and it's like you said, went after the sacred cows and would have been funny except it was painfully accurate in terms of how people were just giving up so many things to "protect the planet" and even making their dog a vegan (dog went nuts and reduced the squirrel population in one episode, that was hilarious), and etc. The painful part of watching it was that I KNOW people that are living like that, and they are just plain BROKE doing all those stupid things! So there you go on that. I suspect that might be why people didn't watch it as much.
Dunham is indeed extremely funny and I really enjoy how he can change the range of his voices for certain situations and stories that he tells which makes it even funnier. The Guitar Guy was funny on the Christmas Special they did last year or so, especially when Dunham gave a blooper of sorts using the wrong word(poliosis I think it was?) for something which came out really funny and Guitar Guy was trying SO hard to regain his composure and even THAT was hilarious to watch. He started to look at Dunham and Dunham says "don't look at me!" You know if he had, both would have collapsed on stage in absolute laughter.
I never get tired of watching Dunham, even with his recent stuff. Just one thing, I tell people about the time he did a stint at a Boston show(can be seen on Youtube) and you KNOW he was in LibCentral, the host was lame and it was one of the worst times Dunham must have had there(not his fault). Just look for it on Youtube under Dunham and Boston University and prepare to cringe and feel sorry for Dunham. Wow....
-Jon
You wanna talk about Lib Central...
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:39pm.
...I saw him in Austin TX! That place is a commie island in an ocean of sanity. But the audience was incredibly receptive to Guitar Guy's anti-Obama song, Obama's Gotta Go and God Bless Arizona, which was about SB 1070, the anti-illegal immigrant bill. The idiot behind me, in a whiny voice, loudly complained after Haner finished about the songs. Mr Whinyass Liberal was trying to act like he was moderate, saying he only gets his news from the Daily Show. Jon Stewart does not count as a moderate in my book (others here may differ). If my missus hadn't been gripping my arm vicelike (I probably still have impressions of her fingers in my forearm, and that was a year and a half ago), I'd have turned around and started something with him.
I have the Christmas Show DVD: (to the tune of "Oh Holy Night): "Oh holy craaaaaaap, I think I shot my foot off!!!" And of course Jingle Bombs: "dashing thru the sand, with a bomb strapped to my back, I had a nasty plan for Christmas in Iraq, I got thru checkpoint A, but not thru checkpoint B, that's when I got shot in the ass by the US military"
I'll kindly begoff watching the Boston video. It'd probably make my blood pressure go too high
Boston video and BP
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:48pm.
I'll respect your desire not to see it, but it wouldn't make your BP go up. At the very worst, you might get annoyed with that guy, but if anything, the most obvious emotion you should feel when seeing it is how pathetic it was and you can't help feel sorry for Dunham getting caught in that, but at the same time, the guy is just TRYING to be so hard to be gracious while the host makes an ass of himself. You'll be shaking your head at it too, I guarantee it. But it's not anything to get mad over, believe me.
Your wife seems to understand you very well.
-Jon
Oh yeah
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:52pm.
The missus knows when I'm about to blow up. We're on the same wavelength in many ways. She saw me turning to the guy and knew right away I was about to torch his sorry ass, and practically broke my arm keeping me from doing it
TempusFugit, An American Carol is funny, very funny
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 5:52pm.
The same guy did Airplane years ago.
An American Carol clips are available on YT....
The David Zucker Albright Ad
You Didn't Build That.
I saw the trailer
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:42pm.
...and it had that Naked Gun/Airplane/Spy Hard feel to it. I love those movies, so I'll definitely look into American Carol. With those types of movies, the comedy comes fast and heavy, and not every joke is a winner. I'll find myself groaning and booing just as often as I laugh. But I still enjoy them. Thanks UCW! :o)
Goode Family was pretty
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:00pm.
Goode Family was pretty funny. But I think I liked King of the Hill much better because while Hank was clearly a conservative man, he also seemed like a real person rather than a caricature. The main characters in G.F. were a little to reliant on their silly liberal politics to act like human beings. Hank may have often expressed his fondness for Ronald Reagan, but that didn't define him.
But to be fair, shows like that usually flail a bit in the first season. Look at long-running shows like Simpsons, Family Guy, King of the Hill...all of their early episodes seem a little bit off compared to the more recent stuff.
possibly because...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:23am.
... of all the "honour killings"?
Would that be considered one of the more traditional islamic family values?
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
99% to 1%. Good odds?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:28pm.
Lets just pretend that the odds of the Holy Bible being right on all counts is, to choose numbers that the unwashed socialists love, only 1 out of 100.
So these people who trash Christianity have a 99% chance of just dying someday, and turning into compost. No Heaven, no hell, no afterlife, no nothing. They have nothing to fear? The good news is, they are pretty much compost in this life, so they will be well prepared to be dirt after death.
Well, there is that little bothersome 1%. What if there is a Heaven and a hell? What if there is an eternity of an afterlife that you are choosing by your actions in this life? What if?
Brothers and sisters, that 1% is all it takes for me to not want to risk eternity in a place called hell, mainly because it will be filled with liberals, and the thought of having to spend eternity with them really is hell!
I don't get it, what does all this have to with Christ anyways?
Submitted by teg on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:55pm.
You keep trying to squeeze Christ into something he doesn't belong in and then you get all upset when the pagans make fun of your sorry asses for doing so! Get real! Where is "Christmas" in the Bible? It isn't! Your sad attempt to replace the Sun God on the Sun God's birthday just envites the pagans to mock you. Its their day, quit trying to shove your God in it!
Christ was a Jew. Chirst was a devout Jew. Christ followed the seven annual Holy Days and the Sabbath as laid out in Leviticus and it is He who is the one who defined what it is to be a Christian, not some 4th century group of pagans in the church of Rome!
Speaking of that 4th century group of pagans redefining Christ, I found out where all this crazy crap that also isn't anywhere in the Bible about the "Trinity" came from this week! It was injected by Constantine's pagan buddy from Egypt! I had forgotten about the "Mysteries of Mysteries" the fact that Osiris (also know as Nemrod in the Bible) married his mother, Isis, and his child from her, Horus, were the Gods, equal and from each other! Sound familiar? I kid you not! Straight out of Baylon via Eygpt, I give you that stinking pile of paganism everyone calls the "Trinity!"
You so called Christians don't even follow your Christ! Then you whine and complain because your pagan buddies hate you for it. So, when the spring rolls back around, gather your little signs of fertility, your colored eggs and your bunny rabbits and go pray to you Sun God at sunrise. Pray to the goddess of fertility to bless you with more kids... as Harold and Kumar smoke another spliff!
Wash your hands
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:04pm.
After pulling that steaming pile out, you need disinfectant. I don't even know where to start with this load of crap.
Look
Submitted by JustAl on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:50pm.
Pretty much everything you wrote is factual, so what? Discussing "facts" in relation to an entirely faith based system is more than a little silly (as is the author's per-occupation with painting everything that mocks religion as liberal).
The bottom line, is that followers of any cult or mythology are the only ones who have a right to define it. As for movies or other media that offend, the answer's pretty simple; don't watch it. If it's funded in any way by the government; insist that your representatives do everything possible to withdraw that funding. There are plenty of conservatives who don't buy into religion.
Maybe next we can debate how many angels will fit on the head of a pen.
Saying "Jews killed Jesus" is
Submitted by redfish on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 2:20pm.
Saying "Jews killed Jesus" is also factual, its just often loaded with a lot of political baggage.
No More Factual
Submitted by JustAl on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 8:57am.
Than saying Italians killed him, yet they weren't the targets of the Inquisition.
"Your sad attempt to replace
Submitted by redfish on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 2:18pm.
"Your sad attempt to replace the Sun God on the Sun God's birthday just envites the pagans to mock you. Its their day, quit trying to shove your God in it!" ... "He who is the one who defined what it is to be a Christian, not some 4th century group of pagans in the church of Rome!"
You're contradicting yourself.---- First you say that Christians stole pagan holidays, then you said Christianity was taken over by pagans.
Christians, by large part, were pagans, who modified their own holidays. Pagan beliefs were often referred to, after the fall of Rome, as "old beliefs." The culture evolved.
A lot of the nonsense arguments against Christians resemble the nonsense arguments about Jews in the 19th century, they're desperate.
Contradiction? Slather on you paganism with pride, son!
Submitted by teg on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:04pm.
The pagans didn't bend to get their followers back. So, Constantine's little gathering there in Rome and subsequent murdering of Christians until they excepted paganism with new labels doesn't sound to me like a church excepting pagan beliefs. From my perspective that's a bunch of pagans doing what "librels" do every day. When they lose the argument they change the language and reserve until it is excepted.
so, I don't get the rest of your arguement and will move along....
You still haven't really
Submitted by redfish on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:02pm.
You still haven't really explained what any of what you're saying has to do with anything. The actions of men like Constantine aside, the move from pagan beliefs to Christian beliefs was a cultural shift that was going on. Already before Christianity started as a religion, the Roman intellectual class was moving towards both Stoicism and neo-Platonic theories, which both fit very neatly within Christian doctrine. Stoicism, which had already posited the existence of a single God and single creator of the universe, and had argued that passions needed to be tempered in life. Neo-Platonism, which argued that there was a single unity behind history, which was a teleological result of an unfolding logic (logos). Jesus fit the role of the "ideal Cynic" that was expounded by Stoic philosophers -- someone who would, living a humble life, evangelize and teach people about the errors of their ways. It was somewhat fated that he came from the Jewish community, since a lot of pagans viewed Jews as strange and irrational for their religious practices, and Jews had a history of defying secular authority in continuing their beliefs. Judaism was the perfect vehicle from which to criticize Roman society, which was already in decline although the Roman Emperor still wanted to be seen as a deity. Keep in mind that, technically, Jesus was a Roman too.
Whether certain theological doctrines came from Jesus' original disciples or from Roman philosophers is kind of irrelevant to me, looking at it from this perspective (and as a non-Christian). The spread of Christian beliefs was the product of cultural changes happening in the Roman Empire. It would have happened even if Constantine never existed. It would have happened in some form if Jesus never existed (which some people actually theorize is true). And its just natural than when a culture evolves it also evolves its old traditions to new purposes. Even if the West moves towards atheism today, for instance, our culture is still going to be carrying the baggage of a lot of things that came out of the Christian tradition, and evolve it to secular purposes.
The relationship between pagans and Christians is kind of irrelevant, and there's no reason to bring it up outside of an academic context.
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Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:09pm.
The spread of Christian beliefs was the product of cultural changes happening in the Roman Empire. It would have happened even if Constantine never existed. It would have happened in some form if Jesus never existed (which some people actually theorize is true).
Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've seen in print. And that's saying a lot, considering where we are.
Oh, and by the way, Jesus was not a Roman citizen.
I made note to say "Christian
Submitted by redfish on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:49pm.
I made note to say "Christian beliefs", not "Christianity". Ideas analogous to Christian beliefs were already spreading before Christianity existed. Roman culture was already at a crossroads. If you don't believe that, read what was happening around that time.
I happen to believe Jesus did exist, and it was somewhat fated that someone like him would exist, and in turn put to death by the Roman Empire. Which, in my point of view, is somewhat the point of the religion.
~I've read Gibbons' History
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:44pm.
I have it, as a matter of fact. Roman culture was disintegrating into hedonism and the spread of Christianity acted as a preservative for a time, but it wasn't widespread enough to save it.
By their very definition "Christian" beliefs are based on Christ and therefore would have no existence without Him.
Christ was put to death at the behest of the Jewish religious leaders of the day; Pilate was no more than a reluctant tool in their hands. The Roman Empire bore no guilt in the matter.
I'm talking about the fact
Submitted by redfish on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:51pm.
I'm talking about the fact that beliefs about ethics and metaphysics and so forth that became firmly established with Christian doctrine had already taken root with other philosophies that had were becoming popular among the Roman intellectual class. Philosophers that argued those doctrines, too, were critics of the hedonism of the Roman Empire.
My interpretation of the passion of Christ is that the entirety of humanity, being everyone involved at the time, was responsible for the death of Christ. The blame wasn't meant to be put on a specific group. The tragedy was that a good man was made to die, when it wasn't necessary for it to happen. Pilate was reluctant to do it, but he didn't stop it. Even some of Jesus' disciples felt that they were guilty for not doing more to stop it. The death of Christ was the result of the sins of mankind.
You have a different interpretation?
~On the contrary, it *was* necessary for him to die
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 3:56pm.
And what makes you think Jesus was a 'good man', if you don't believe He was truly the Son of God?
It may have been necessary
Submitted by redfish on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:01pm.
It may have been necessary for him to die from a perspective of fate, or whatever divine plan there was, but not from the perspective of the actors in his death, who had free will and choices to make. Pilate could have made another choice.
What stops someone from believing he was a good man, even if they don't believe he's the son of God?
~Pilate bowed to pressure
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:19pm.
in order to avoid a riot. He most certainly did not make a free will choice, or he would not have felt compelled to publicly wash his hands in protest.
Jesus claimed to be the Son of God in the flesh, which is the claim of an egomaniacal madman, or the claim of a man telling the truth.
He was either clinically insane or truly the Son of God.
That would demonstrate that
Submitted by redfish on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:44pm.
That would demonstrate that even though people have free will, they are bound by the fact that they're imperfect. In theory, there are many things Pilate could have done; he could have recused himself from his position, forcing someone else to make it (and that person then could recuse himself, and so on), or found some other means to deal with a potential riot. But for whatever reason, he could not be brought to do anything else.
Its also said in the Bible in different forms that all people are children of God, or Jews are children of God. Its also said in Galatians that Christians are sons of God through faith in Christ.
Whether I think Jesus was a madman depends on what reality I put behind that statement. Whatever the truth is beyond that, by the statement, Jesus was both challenging the Jewish priests to a part of their religion they forgot, and challenging the Roman view of the Roman Emperor as a deity.
~That was a long non-answer
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:52pm.
Pilate had no grounds to recuse himself, and no legal precedent to do so under Roman law. He was the prefect of that province and it was his job to authorize any legal, Roman executions. You're applying modern day thinking to a 2,000 year old event in a radically different culture.
Jesus said that he was the literal Son of God, the prophesied Messiah, the Lion of Judah, the Word made Flesh, the second Being of the Trinity. There is no way to mix that up with generic 'sons of God' unless you're deliberately trying to hide behind obfuscation in order to avoid the point.
Pilate didn't need grounds to
Submitted by redfish on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 5:17pm.
Pilate didn't need grounds to recuse himself, he could have simply refused, even if that meant him being punished, even executed for the act. That is the definition of free will. One shouldn't have expected Pilate to throw himself on the cross, when there was likely someone else in line that would take his place and would willingly do the act that he wouldn't do. But that's what being human means.
It just depends on what you believe the 'Son of God' and the 'Word Made Flesh' to mean, in any sense of the expressions, literal or generic. Does that mean Jesus was a magical, ethereal being with special powers? Or does it mean he was a singularly important figure in God's plan, where he was able to speak God's word, and so was a personification of his divine attributes?
Even if I believed the second, it wouldn't commit me to being a Christian in the fullest sense of what that means. And even if I did believe he were a madman, it wouldn't mean he wasn't a good person. Are mad people all bad people and deserve to die?
But I think the conversation is getting off track. I'm just explaining my point of view, and not trying to convince you. My main concern in my original response was that there are unfounded attacks on Christians that I don't think make any sense. If Catholics believe the Trinity is true, what difference does it make that some ex-pagan first said it , if that were the case?
~Nope
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 7:04pm.
Free will is the ability to make a choice without being coerced one way or another. If someone forces you into a corner where you must pick from an array of unappealing options, it's got nothing to do with free will and everything to do with pragmatism. If you had a free will choice in the matter, it would be to not be in that situation in the first place.
If your wife were held hostage, and your only way to save her were to light yourself on fire, you're not making a free will choice to light yourself on fire, or a free will choice for her to die. Your choice is being forced by your circumstances.
Being so insane that you think you're the literal Son of God, an immortal being of unlimited power who has taken on the human form, and will shortly transcend and transform that body and ascend the throne of heaven to sit at the right hand of God the Father Almighty, precludes the possibility of being simply 'good'. You're either deranged beyond all imagining, or you're right.
No one said mad people are bad and deserve to die. I pointed out that Jesus' voluntary sacrifice on the cross was necessary to the redemption of humanity, and the whole reason He took on human form.
Many pagans were given glimpses of the Truth. Pagan myths of death and re-birth, redemption through sacrifice, were a pale foreshadowing of the coming of the Lamb of God.
"I thought Canada had a
Submitted by Pinetree3 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:14pm.
"I thought Canada had a "Human Rights Commission" to prevent and/or punish those who intentionally seek to offend religious sensibilities."
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Only applies to islam. muslims/islam must never be mocked,,,ever. It's amazing how much libs, who always decry religion, love and embrace islam.
Christ-ophobia is already here
Submitted by exLib on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:45pm.
On the Weather channel this morning they showed the NYC Rockfeller Square Christmas Tree, which the anchor referred to repeated as "The Tree".
Just a few minutes later, a CNN anchor was talking about how there were 5 weeks left to "The Holidays". I was thinking if you wanted to say "The Holidays" then they start next week. But what is 5 weeks away, if not Christmas?
Here's a test....
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 2:24pm.
...for the lib trolls:
Draw a picture of, say, Mohammed. Make him have the features of...maybe, a dog. Then circulate that picture around Ramadan. I'm sure they'll approve of you irreverant humor.
A Very Harold And Kumar 3D Christmas
Submitted by Gordon Schumway on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:46pm.
I saw the movie this week... and it was extremely enjoyable and entertaining. They had some nekkid wimmin as an added bonus. I'd pay to see it again. 3D rocks!
Gordo
Melmac
GordoMelmac
I find the whole "War on
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 5:22pm.
I find the whole "War on Christmas" narrative a little hard to swallow if only because everyone who wants to celebrate it does just that. No one's told they can't engage in all of their preferred rituals and enchantments. Certainly no one is individually persecuted for it. And while satirical things certainly do exist, well, so do lots and lots of public and commercial elements that sincerely embrace it. Furthermore, the very notion of the holiday being under attack is ridiculously subjective and dependent on any given individual's perspective of what it should be. To the fervent orthodox Christian, the presence of secular imagery like Santa and Christmas Trees destroy the spirit of the holiday. To the person who see it as simply a time to get together with family and follow certain traditions, hyper-commercialism and Xmas music in every store by the 1st of November seems an affront. And to what seems to me to be something of a minority, the ambiguation of the holiday - Happy Holidays as the standardized salutation, the lack of manger pageants in schools, etc. - is the frontline of the war. We go through these complaints every year as though we're programmed, but in the end, is anyone's personal experience and enjoyment of Christmas really precluded by all of it?
But OK, so my second point. What exactly is it that Mr. Bozell is trying to do with these frequent anti-pop culture essays? They seem to appear quite frequently, but the only discernible thesis is that "These things exist and are bad." So is it intended simply as a PSA of sorts? Or is there some project of broadcast accountability, standardization of content, or even (dare I say) censorship that he is pursuing? A goal along these concrete lines is never really articulated, so I'm tempted to assume he means them simply as informative. I personally feel that Family Guy is rather brilliant, but it hardly seems like that's a perspective worth defending here, since most people are pretty set on their opinion of it. Any thoughts on this?
Rupert...
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 5:38pm.
...I'm hoping you're a reasonable guy, and will try to engage in a dialogue with you. I don't agree with Mr. Bozell all the time. In fact it might be 50% or less agreement. The man is entitled to his own opinion, since he owns this website. I enjoy thoroughly reading his opinions, even tho I don't always agree. I'm a libertarian, and would never dream of government sponsored censorship. But I think that this is a sick society, and getting worse, and all Americans should be concerned about the depravity so often on display these day. Here's a hypothetical: say a white man makes a sculpture of black men being lynched. People would protest it, and rightfully so. Would you support it as art? Are any subjects, from your point of view, strictly taboo? Has Mr. Bozell ever advocated strict censorship of a particular artwork, film, TV show? If so, please link.
Anyway I think all conservatives should be be massively concerned about the degradation of our culture and should put pressure on anyone who is exceeding extreme boundaries of depravity, good taste and morals, but only by grass roots, non-violent and non-governmental means.
I used to like Family Guy, but after the 2002-2005 hiatus, it became noticeably left wing and snarky. They even mocked Clinton a few times on the original run. I still enjoy reruns of the 1999-2002 run. I may be too sensitive tho. I think Rush Limbaugh even guest starred and Andrew Breitbart considers Seth McFarlane a friend
I was not claiming that
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:29am.
I was not claiming that Bozell has ever called for outright censorship. I was very honestly asking if anyone is aware of, or has a theory about, what his goal is in writing these articles. They offer little in-depth criticism or anything in the way of a plan for how these perceived social ills should be rectified. They are, basically, laundry lists of out-of-context examples of how media texts should be seen as offensive by conservatives. As I said, they seem to function simply as PSAs. But they are so frequently published and so fervently critical that it's surprising that he seems not to offer some sort of corrective. Or is the corrective simply "You should not watch these things"? I don't know.
A white person sculpting a lynching scene would not necessarily be offensive, in my opinion. That strikes me as a silly example, because what the artwork is conveying would obviously be crucial to establishing whether or not it's "racist." By the same token, Family Guy's representations of Christianity - not to mention every other sacred ideological cow - are much more complex than simply a character holding a sign that reads "Christianity is Bad." In my opinion, it is always good when these sorts of ideologies and values are pushed back against, even if it's to the point of ridicule and offense.
Thanks for calling my example...
Submitted by TempusFugit on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:43am.
...silly. I think it was a valid example and question. And I think you asking why Mr. Bozell writes columns on his own blog is silly too. The people his columns are aimed at get it. I almost never watch new TV anymore, and stick mostly with sports, reality shows about police such as First 48 and Border Wars, or reruns of old shows when TV was good. Mr. Bozell is wading thru the feces of what passes as culture these days, and alerts us to what we might find offensive. If you don't like it, then ask Mr. Bozell about it. Or just leave the blog. I'd never go to a liberal website and ask why they write about their subject matter.
I don't think I could ever call Family Guy, or its style of comedy, complex. It seems to be a series of random situations with fast and furious jokes, most of which wouldn't draw a chuckle. Kind of throw a lot of crap and see what sticks. It was kind of funny once, but Seth McFarlane sold out and now is just trying to get cheap laughs to gain liberal street cred
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:27am.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I just wanted to convey that I don't think a depiction of a racist act (especially in a medium like sculpture) is necessarily racist itself. I feel like that would be like saying that Schindler's List is anti-Semitic.
And of course I don't question Bozell's right to publish on a site he owns. But okay, so if most conservatives on this site "get it," then my question would be what is the proper course of action after reading it? Does one simply nod in agreement and that's that, or do you feel compelled to do something?
Sorry, I guess I'm not really explaining this well. Anyway, my apologies again for any offense taken. I wrote that write before going to bed and was writing quickly and without really choosing words carefully.
Speaking of sports, time now to gear up for a day of football. Though unfortunately my team doesn't play til tomorrow.
Take care,
Rupert
Look who popped his head up again boys and girls.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:26pm.
The worthless turd troll that has serious serious serious issues with the English language is back.
Oh worthless turd troll, news flash! Your buddy coin of the realm is banned. You trying to steal JasonC's reputation now as the bad luck troll? Shame on you. You are already known as the worthless turd troll that has serious issues with the English language. Stick with that.
Subject Line: Filled In
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 2:03pm.
What is a Bad Luck Troll?
What is a Turd Troll?
What is a Coin of the Realm?
What is a JasonC?
What is a stupid troll?
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 7:09pm.
You. The idiot incapable of recognizing the moniker of another user.
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Hi Rupert
Submitted by coin of the realm on Sun, 10/16/2011 - 10:32pm.
You are well spoken in the written word as it were. More to the point, you use logic and data as foundations to build your opinion upon and build it solidly you do.
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Who plays troll games by playing it stupid? You. I am almost half convinced coin of the realm may have been a sock puppet the way you played up the stupid there. But, yeah, even managing a sock puppet is too much for your tiny brain. So no.....
Oh yeah, that guy. I don't
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 7:26pm.
Oh yeah, that guy. I don't think I even responded to him, so I'm not sure how he's my buddy. Bit of a sycophant, really. I just looked into the sock puppet term, and while I suppose I have no way to prove it and you have no reason to believe me, I solemnly swear that I am only me.
Good morning Rupert
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:51pm.
Your posts indicate to me that you wrote them after going to sleep and they are the incoherant dreams of a madman. If you need professional help PM Drsam and tell him all about it.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I say...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:49am.
what he said. Thanks for writing all that out Rupert...you saved me a lot of time.
And time is so precious to you Dead Donkeylous Zippers.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:59am.
You average account is only getting 3.22 weeks of airtime before the ban stick hits you upside the head.
I'm sorry...
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:49am.
if I've offended you by accepting logic in all its forms :)
I suppose you're not a defender of free speech...definitely not a true conservative then.
3.22 weeks! That's sorta funny...what's .22 of seven days? 3.14 I think so I'll be banned early in the morning. I don't think NB is in the habit of banning conservatives and you're definitely not in the business of predicting the future. Keep working on it.
Whatever troll.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:34pm.
The
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broken records suck!
Submitted by ridunculous on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:57pm.
I don't need to tell you what they suck :) Ok, I will! Troll pole.
For the record.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:40pm.
I have no problem with people of any faith, or religion, or no religion at all, UNLESS some of that group feel like I need to be blown to bits because I don't believe in the smoke that they're trying to blow up my ass!
When we reach that point, I tend to get a bit testy. When other members of the group whose members are trying to kill me seem not to be able to at least act a little offended by the actions of their believers, well that pisses me off, too.
I consider Muslims who go on TV and denounce in very strong, emotional, and real terms the actions of extremists in their religion to be some of the bravest people I have ever seen. Problem is, you can count them on one hand, but they are truly brave people.
I consider politicians, actors, and commentators who fall all over themselves trying to make nice with this pack of fools to be the biggest cowards on the planet, and they can rot in hell, if there is such a place, when they expire.
Otherwise, I'm really a fun loving guy!
Hey Bubba*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 6:51pm.
*
"...for the lib trolls:Draw
Submitted by Pinetree3 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:02am.
"...for the lib trolls:
Draw a picture of, say, Mohammed. Make him have the features of...maybe, a dog. Then circulate that picture around Ramadan. I'm sure they'll approve of you irreverant humor."
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Never happen because libs know their lives wouldn't be worth a plugged nickel if they did. Adherents to the religion-of-love-tolerance-and-peace tend to react very violently to such things.
The religion of Peace?
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:55am.
I do believe that the Danes know all about the "tolerance" of the religion of peace.
Everytime they do this,
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:51am.
Everytime they do this, somebody needs to make a movie about Judaism, Israel, Palestinian's, Islam, homosexuality and eco-terrorism all summed up in one 2 hour movie. Then let's see who protests. Mel Gibson can play the rabbi and Gilbert Godfried can play Muhammad.
Maybe a little joke about Pamela Anderson's STD problems too. You know, just a joke and light-hearted humor.
This silliness
Submitted by Clevenative on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:11am.
Has become as predictable as Christmas itself.
yup
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:20am.
You commenting out of your ass is pretty predictable, and pathetic.
Kindly keep your beliefs to yourself. After all, that's what you demand of religious folks.
Hell,
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 1:26am.
Hell, Clevie-Poo............I've seen you USE Christianity to back up your posts, and I've seen you ABUSE Christianty to back up your post - all in the 3-4 days you've been smelling up this website. So which is it, meat???
And - let me put it this way..................it's taken Christianity about 2000 years to become 'predictable'...........it's only taken you about 2-3 days...............and you keep telling us how smart you are, and how you're the ONLY one around here who knows the 'TRUTH'!!!!
It's the hypocrisy stupid
Submitted by Clevenative on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:12am.
To paraphrase a slogan on the wall of the Clinton campaign headquarters.
That anyone would take "offense" to a perceived "sinner" playing an acting role is just bats* crazy. Talk about judgmental! “Liberal media bias?” ROFL!
How long a list do I need to make of the sinners in organized religion? And you’d better denounce the woman who stood by Jesus throughout the Passion – not to mention people like Larry Craig, John Enisgn, Mark Sanford, Newt Gingrich and all the other “sinners” for whom the holier-than-though Republicans hypocrites continue to sing “Stand By Your Man” like Tammy Wynette.
Clevie shows his stupid again
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:14am.
Every church is full of sinners. That's the point of a church. If we were all sinless we wouldn't need a church.
I hope for your sake that stupidity isn't a sin.
~I've read six of his posts
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:20am.
and I'm already weary of his inanity.
"ROFL." Now you're responding to yourself.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:21am.
Get some sleep, Meth Head. You've been on here day and night for 72 hours without a break. Do you just take little power naps every few hours?
That is "not healthy" for a person of your "advanced age."
Apparantly his 'fertile
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:33am.
Apparantly his 'fertile fishing grounds' are barren - along with his intelligence..............this IS his life!!! I don't think ice-heads take 'power naps', and anyway, I don't think the word 'power' and the name 'Clevenaive' go together very well.
The little fruit Clementine is quite stupid, ain't he?
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 12:03pm.
Mistakenly thinking people are responding to him when they are clearly responding to others. Thinking he got banned when in fact he was only logged out. And now being unable to find the correct reply button when it is in clear view on the screen. This in addition to the constant use of the Lollies and Rofflemows and exclamation points in every single post.
But he is cereal people. You take him cereal right now.
Troll Alert - Clevenative - insulting bigoted rant troll.
'It's the hypocrisy
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 11:29am.
'It's the hypocrisy stupid'......................good job, Clevie-Poo!!! By my count, that's the SECOND post you've made where you actually show a little self-awareness, humility, and 'truth' - which is the ONLY thing that you are intersted in , right???
brent bozell on J.Edgar the movie
Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:04pm.
"Speaking of messing up the time machine, Hollywood is really going back in time to smear J. Edgar Hoover. They've never forgiven him for being a staunch anti-communist or for mucking around in the personal lives of their heroes, from the Kennedy's to Martin Luther King. When Time asked actor Leonardo DiCaprio how true the movie was to life he replied, "Historically, it's incredibly accurate."
"The accusation that Hoover cross-dressed came from a convicted perjurer with mob ties; Soviet disinformation agents circulated rumors that Hoover was gay." ---B.Bozell
Hollywood studios produced some rare anti-communist films, one such movie starred John Wayne and James Arness and beauty Nancy Olson. The "plot" is about two FBI agents busting up a nest of red spies that have infiltrated the labor unions in post WWII Hawaii. Big Jim McClain was made back in 1952 The film was given bad reviews for its obvious anti-communist message.
lrgon on lrgon the loon.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:18pm.
"Speaking of loons, we loons get around in our time machine. That is how we have so many movies made of us floating around and making loon calls. Here I am on Island Pond."
Now I will make a pointless paragraph about John Wayne. He starred in "They were expendable". It is about a movie of expendable people. Also, I will steal this next sentence from IMDB and not tell anyone. A dramatized account of the role of the American PT Boats in the defense of the Philippines in World War II
HEY! What happened to "PolishBear?"
Submitted by m4ster chief on Sun, 11/20/2011 - 4:37pm.
I wanted to address his ignorant comments, but now he and his vitriol have slithered away to...oh, perhaps Michelle Malkin's blog. Anyway, if he comes back and reviews these comments, here is my contribuition:
"Hey, ya dumb Polack! What's going on, you sausage-sucking, cabbage chompin' queer?" (Oh wait, to the NB editor who may read this and misunderstand what is going on: This sentence is merely my humorous holiday parody of the friendly give-and-take dialog between my good friend, PolackBear, and his mother at this time of the year, this "Winter Holiday Season."
Ah, heck! Now I've forgotten what I wanted to say to him, or her, whatever PolackBear is after his sex-change operation. Sorry, Queerski...see you next time, and we can finish this discussion about the gentle, non-offensive humor of parody.
Signed: Master Chief
I'm very disappointed...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 4:34pm.
in the recent News Busters dialogue. This should be a forum for intelligent debate. Instead it resembles a right wing MMfA. Disagreement is essential. Disagreement furthers the argument and gained wisdom. What do we have instead? Agreement. Confirmation Bias. Conservatives are the majority - we don't all have to agree with Brent Bozell and attack fellow conservatives who don't. We share the same values, but this is one of the most cantankerous comment sections on the internet. It doesn't speak well for the conservative cause, it doesn't speak well for conservative intelligence.
It only reinforces the false narrative of conservative hate. Obviously JFK was the result of conservative rhetoric....obviously Gabby Giffords was a victim of conservative hate speak. Targets on maps people!
I like NewsBusters...I don't like the hate in the comments. How much hate will this post inspire:?
Don't know about hate.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 6:44pm.
Boring is the best description for you though. Save your keyboard the wear and tear. We don't get paid to be bored by idiots that think the right way to engage others is by saying the people here ---
Yeah, we are the ones with the problem all right. Not idiots that come here and think they can start conversations by insulting everyone in the room.
Go away troll. Or switch back to your other sock puppet.
Slip up perhaps?
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:06pm.
"We don't get paid to be bored by idiots...etc"
So what do you get paid for? And who is paying you?
>flush<
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:36pm.
.
That's it?
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:41pm.
You won't even address a direct quote from your own post?
Answer the question already!
Paid by
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:43pm.
Attention, same as you
Huh?
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:49pm.
That doesn't even make sense. Nobody 'payes' me anything to post here.
>flush<
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:04pm.
Honey, crapper is shot again. This sticky turd won't go down.
Answered your own smart-assed question, troll.
So what do you get paid for? And who is paying you?
Nobody 'payes' me anything to post here.
Nor does anyone get paid to read anything here, troll.
I get payed in
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:24pm.
jerks who think they're smart...which I wouldn't mind! If they were smart.
Wow,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:00pm.
That must suck. So how many Jerks do you get per hour, or are you salary?
How many jerks
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:14pm.
eugene admits it would only be an estimate, he'd probably be a jerk off one way or another
comprehension problem?
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:11pm.
I didn't call anyone stupid.
You and almost everyone here can't tolerated disagreement, that's for sure. Even avid conservatives get dumped on.
I haven't insulted anyone...please tell me where I have. Intelligent debate is not insult - inability to deal with intelligent debate is insulting but not to me.
You know really close to nothing. I don't agree with you, you're a sock puppet! Get real Vet. If you can't keep up with me intellectually, it doesn't mean you're stupid, it means you've got a lot to learn. I'd be willing to teach you, but I'd be worried you'd exercise your fascist tendencies and try to ban me just like dunk. He was a good guy, a strong conservative, and you liberalized him! You don't like independent thinking...you should go hang at Think Progress or even worse! Huff Po.
Sad day for you.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:36pm.
Not playing your troll game. What I said stands. I stand by every word. If someone respectable here disagrees, I will discuss it. Otherwise, pack sand troll. I don't play troll games.
Who is dunk?
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:41pm.
Guess we know what his other profile was now?
I haven't insulted anyone yet....
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:28pm.
but I give up. You're an idiot.
Boy thats clever
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:54pm.
NOT
That suit is black...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:55pm.
.......................NOT! - the eminently clever Borat
And I quote...
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:59pm.
eugenedebs: I'm very disappointed...in the recent News Busters dialogue. This should be a forum for intelligent debate.
eugenedebs: You're an idiot.
eugenedebs: I haven't insulted anyone...please tell me where I have.
eugenedebs: The Vet is a fool.
Tip for the name of your next sock puppet - Dr.Jeckyll-n-Mr. Hyde. Or my favorite - King Crybaby.
I get it!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:57pm.
You can't handle the truth :) The truth is markedly different from an insult. I hate to be King Crybaby, but you started it.
Sweatysockpuppethandzezwhat?
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:14pm.
Missed something there dintya troll? I never came here whining about civility and debate and the lack of disagreement and false narratives. Now did I? Huh sweaty sock puppet hand?
Now go create another account to come back here and tell everyone how right you were and how wrong I was to expose you as the lying little hack you are.
You talked the talk
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:39pm.
Looks like you failed on the walk. A self fulfilling prophecy perhaps?
Ah. Hee Hee Hee Hee.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 7:54pm.
I did not even finish reading the troll's post. Really no point. Troll's just assume we are paid to hang on their every word. But since you posted, I got curious. Yeah, guy has been silent 31 weeks. Ain't heard a peep out of him for around 7 months. Suddenly someone has the latest and greatest when it comes to news of the latest troll banning. That ridunculous guy, you know, that guy that had his account open for a little over 30 weeks, same as eugene debs, that guy, you know, the guy that would have mysterious long periods of not posting, just like eugene debs, you know, the guy that insults the community at large, just like eugene debs, the guy that had a smart ass profile, just like eugene debs, yeah, he was banned today. And guess who had knowledge of it within minutes.
Iz notta sock puppet mizzer. Honext. Just ask the hand up my butt. He can tellz ya. Iz notta sock puppet.
Gotta love it
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:00pm.
We love posters who complain about a lack of "debate" and "civility" while insulting the community.
Whoops. Missed that one.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:17pm.
That troll that was banned, you know, the one that insults the community at large, just like eugene debs....
ridunculous: ...you NB regs.. ...y'all can't seem to...
Let's not even get started on the word intellectually and it's variations. How many times does that word get thrown around in a week or even a month. But here we have 2 trolls throwing it around on the same day on the same blog.
Someone might wanna turn around and tell the hand up his butt to take off the neon flashing "Sock Puppet's Rule!" sign. It is giving him away.
Still waiting ;)
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:05pm.
Cmon Vet, man up mister "We don't get paid to be bored by idiots.." and answer the questions..what do you get paid for? And who is paying you?
Quit wasting our time.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:11pm.
.
I will
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:14pm.
Just as soon as you address your own quote. If you do, then I promise you will not hear from till 2012.
>flush<
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:18pm.
.
Seriously?
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:26pm.
You refuse to answer for your own words? The best you can up with is >flush<? Cmon, man up and stand behind what you said!
Knock it off now.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:38pm.
If you are wanting a serious answer, that is my employer, then you are phishing. Attempting to gather personal information that can be used to expose my identity. KNOCK IT OFF. It is a violation of the Terms of Use for this and every other website that allows anonymity.
If you are making some attempt at a joke, then your repeated tedious posts insisting I divulge my employer has undermined whatever attempts at humor you have endeavored.
So KNOCK IT OFF. I am not divulging my employer.
You may not use this web site to post commercial solicitations, reveal private information of others without their permission, engage in cracking, hacking, or other illegal conduct.
HARASSING USERS INTO DIVULGING PERSONAL INFORMATION might be covered there as well.
Interesting!
Submitted by mandrake on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:45pm.
I really don't care who your employer is. The fact that you admit you have one is enough for me..thanks
watch out!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:52pm.
This fool will have you banned...he a huge fan of fascism.
Gee dunks,
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:55pm.
That didn't take long.
You a huge fan of stoopid (using your grammatical construction, above).
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Blonde, his use of ellipsis is quite interesting.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:46pm.
I use ellipsis too, but actually to continue a thought from the subject line into the body of the message itself. I also use them when making a casual comment.
In deb(bie)'s case, I notice the use of ellipsis coincides more with an effect we call "tethering" in neuropsychiatry. It is a very obscure phenomenon, but nonetheless one that is suggestive of deb(bie). "Tethering" really occurs when random, dissimilar thoughts are strung together in a graphic (written) fashion suggesting disorganization of thought patterns and randomness of meaning. Example: horse...oh yeah...circus...oh dunky is my brother...spaghetti for dinner...and so on and so forth. It is a rare, written representation of interrupted thought patterns that usually serves as evidence for some organic brain disease where dysgraphia is a more prominent manifestation perhaps than forms of speech impediments. The form of dysgraphia being displayed by deb(bie) suggests a pathology which warrants further examination.
Neuropsychiatry moment over.
Whoa, doc...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:20pm.
I've used them quite often in the past--and regularly in my comment headings [e.g. note above]--but after reading your [customarily] informative post re tethering/ellipsis etiology, I plan on seriously limiting the practice in the future. :-)
Jer
ellipsis...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:08pm.
are the bees knees...why do you hate bees...do you realize this is a comment board...it's not your next novel :)
I really hate grammar police...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:03pm.
they are as you say stooopid. Typo nazis are even worse. I'm starting to like you blonde...jerks are some of my favorite people.
Naw,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:57pm.
He just dislikes folks named Ron, that go by Mo
you won't get an answer...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:31pm.
The Vet is a fool.
Whatever troll.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:43pm.
Another one that thinks phishing for personal information is an acceptable activity. Whatever. You already exposed yourself as the nasty little vermin you are. Whining about the civility of the community here whilst uncivilly insulting the community here.
Vet
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:48pm.
A sock puppet for ridunkulous, or whatever its name was. That didn't take long, did it?
I find the "eugenedebs" kind of interesting....about four/five years ago, we had an illegal immigrant apologist crazy person named tumbler, real name eugene. We also had a whack job named Debra JM Smith, who used to bash everyone's religion.
Troll city these days.
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not a sock puppet blonde
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:58pm.
I love it when people think they're clever and they're...not.
The dunk man made laughing stocks of you because you refused to engage in honest political debate. Newbusters and it's posters are what's wrong with the conservative movement. Move on! It's not about lynching gays and fictional wars on Christmas. It's about personal responsibility and sane fiscal policy. Social conservatives (ie republicans) are old news.
Ah, but you lie, eugenedebs
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:07pm.
You ARE a sock puppet.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
clever people who think they're clever...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:20pm.
often think they're clever. Read my last post the the world's dumbest Veteran. I'm pretty sure being a completely different person makes me a regular guy who admittedly wears socks (even with sandals!) I deny putting googly eyes and funny noses on those socks, but as you say...I am a liar :)~
Yes you are a liar
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:24pm.
I know it, and so does everyone else here.
So you and dunks identical twins then? That's what you're saying.
Careful Jim, he's a redshirt, ya know?
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please don't outclever yourself :)
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:46pm.
I'm starting to like you cause you're a smart@ss, but seriously, you're wrong. And who cares if you are! I'm not gonna rag on you for it! You made a mistake, big deal. Happens all the time.
Yes troll. We lynch gays here.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:19pm.
Well, we would but the dang servers sit too low for them to swing on.
eugenedebs: I'm very disappointed...in the recent News Busters dialogue. This should be a forum for intelligent debate
eugenedebs: ...idiot....fool...jerks...fascist...fascism...lynching gays
Iz notta troll mizzer. Honext..
puleeeeeeaaaaaaaze!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:30pm.
ya'll hate on gays all the time, and you are a stinking fascist! You banned my brother for no reason! Worse than the darned HuffPost!
I didn't get personal till you did...sure I love civil debate, but I'm no pussy. Those three Vets in my family (I'm one of em)...follow certain rules. Rule numbero uno, don't take shite from anyone - including d-bag sargeants and supposed internet "Vets". So we can settle this civil, it's my favorite thing! Or you could back off, cause I ain't done anything to you a Vet can't handle. Unless you're not a vet...just some sort of poseur. In which case I'll whoop yo @ss in real life :)
How's that for civil?
Got kicked from HuffPo, didja?
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:33pm.
IOW, you're an equal opportunity loon.
I betcha you're an OWie, aren't you?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
what!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:43pm.
no one gets kicked of huffpo...they just don't post comments they don't like. You know....anything bad about Nancy Pelosi, Bawney Fwank, or the Special One who will Save us ALL.
That sucks for civil,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:36pm.
Threats are banning offenses, and so is your idiocy. For a little gay boy, you sure are tough, I know I am scared
omg!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:56pm.
threats! What a bunch of wusses. Usually the left is the civility police....GET OVER IT.
So first you make the threat,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:03pm.
Then you call us names. Wow, you make friend easy dont you?
hahahaha
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:17pm.
would you believe no! and I'm so personable...I just don't get it :)
You were in the military, but cant spell sergeant?
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:36pm.
Riiiiiight!, sure thing, bro!
ROTFLMAO.
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82nd Airborne Grammar police :)
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:53pm.
I've jumped out of more planes than you've ever dreamed of flying on. Got stuck once...Rambo style! Had to cut myself clear, but my jaw is still messed up to this day from slamming against the side of the plane.
you get paid!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:35pm.
I don't really care...I think it's funnier that you don't actually read posts. No wonder you can't respond with any intelligence whatsoever.
Rip off that page.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 8:49pm.
We get it troll. Your word for the day was intelligence. Both you and your banned sock puppet used it enough in sentences today. Rip it off and start using tomorrow's word. You will need the practice for the websites you visit tomorrow after you finally meet the ban hammer as well.
Now pack sand. I am tiring of you.
you're tired!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:02pm.
and you can't seem to stop talking to me? Intelligence isn't my word of the day, it's your lack of cognitive function.
Get better at it, maybe people will take you seriously.
you can't seem to stop talking to me?
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:13pm.
But yet your post is after his? Hhmmm, no worries though, your not the only one here who has this issue
I don't really know what you're talking about
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:33pm.
I don't post here much, sorry if they're out of order or something.
I talk to you cause I like you! Can't you tell! Plus I'm gorgeous and I wear socks...you'd love me.
You dont even recognize
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:42pm.
Your own writing? From about 5 min before,,,,,
Attention Admins. More evidence of the sock puppetry.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:12pm.
Overuse of exclamation points. No one is that excited. let alone two accounts that share so many other similarities. This is on this page alone.
ridunculous: ...all idiots! ...a sleeper! ...it's funny! ...the ass! ...say that! ...they're awesome! ...the homosexuals!" ...I'm taken! ...BIGOT! It's ridunculous! ...been played! ...magic carpet! ...great fun! HA! ...was hilarious! ...freedom baby! ...are dangerous! ...you care! ...good job! ...go away!
eugenedebs: ...still going! ...be one! ...his posts! ...Hobbit sex! ...some fun! OMG! ...mine completely! ...this thread! ...liberalized him! ...even worse! ...with sandals! ...darned HuffPost!
They may not be brothers but mamabear certainly is related to them.
eugenedebs, Additional Math
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:00pm.
Ok so you haven't posted for 31 weeks.
X
Posting on a month old thread.
X
Showing up here MINUTES after ridunculous went POOF
X squared, raised to the power of clandestine.
THE SHEER NUMBERS of your posts, utilizing the same small number of word groups.
Ta Da Zippers, or a zipper boiler room, in your dreams.
Tagged yourself with the X men, comment.
Too much marching powder down there on Sunset blvd. Skinned your knee tripping over another sidewalk cafe?
Why the need to post, ToDaY?
You Didn't Build That.
if you must know genius...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:11pm.
ridunculous is my brother, and he wiped the floor with you idiots. Then you fascist scumbags banned him, so I thought I'd throw in my two cents.
The x men comment was awesome, as was dunks hilarious little people orgy. It's because we have senses of HUMOR.
Me, personally...I hate these threads. The posters are functionally illiterate establishment republicans. I'm a conservative...these are very different ideologies. One champions personal responsibility, the other champions slightly smaller Big Government fascism.
I sure hope you can handle that! Cause banning me would be heartbreaking! Not really...there's cool blogs, and then there's NewsBusters.
smaller Big Government fascism.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:13pm.
Now that is a mouth full lolololol
You Didn't Build That.
Free.....Hater?
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:17pm.
Baaaaaaaaaah!
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upcountrywater*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:21pm.
Eugene Debs Hartke is a character from a book written by Kurt Vonnegut title Hocus Pocus. He is no conservative, he hates capitalism, has a huge ego and only cares about his own pleasures, he cares nothing for others.
Now why would this idiot identify himself with a character whose sole accomplishment in "life" was to sleep with as many women as people he killed?
I'm impressed you know that...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:39pm.
Did you read my personal description or the actual book? Hocus Pocus was a fantastic read and I recommend it to anyone. I actually am named after the socialist candidate for president born in November 1855. It's sorta a joke since I hate all forms of socialism, communism and fascism.
But read Hocus Pocus...fabulous. Slaughter House five was the shiznatch too, along with Breakfast of Champions.
Why not go with Mao then?
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:44pm.
If you hate commies so much? Good freakin grief
eugene is more clever
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:37pm.
and Mao actually killed people which sort of kills the joke, no?
Eugene V Debs*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 9:53pm.
The first Eugene was indeed a commie/socialist leader of the labor party and worked for years to bring some attention to the commies here in this country. He was a hero to Vonnegut and so named several of his characters in his books. The thing I did not like about Vonnegut, especially that he was a long time practicing member of the ACLU, was the hypocrisy of his books. His characters were always strange, odd characters, often violent, but he extolled their individual attributes. Yet he blamed that individuality for societies problems and all his books spoke of the eventual doom to the world as a result. He extolled the virtues of sameness in thinking and life( socialism) . If you dont get the contradictions, then you never really paid attention to the subtleties in Vonneguts writings.
People with intellect were able to discern the hypocrisy in his writings which could be why he was not that big a deal.
Cajun...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:07pm.
Do you really think I didn't know Eugene Debs Hartke was based on Vonnegut's hero? A writer can be liberal, and still be brilliant. Oh, and Vonnegut was a big deal.
Guess who else was a great liberal writer? Mark Twain. Who else you say? Tom Wolfe.
All three of these "libs" were funny as all heck too :) Are you one of those people that never watch liberal movies too? Are you afraid their crazy ideas might effect your strong conservative values.
Sorry dude,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:10pm.
But Twain wasnt a lib, or any other kind of leftist.
HA!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:30pm.
Ever read "Letters from the Earth"?
Mark was a leader of the Global Cooling scare - did you know that?
Eugene, keep up*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 10:15pm.
In order to understand Vonnegut, I had to read his books...Oh my.
You have to understand the times for Vonnegut. He believed the commie nonsense about class warfare, redistribution of wealth, total equality, and big government. Millions of people fell for this commie utopia. Problem is, that utopia cannot exist without the one big addition of TOTAL FACIST MILITARY TYRANNICAL BIG GOVERNMENT necessary to impose that total equality, equal distribution of wealth. All this cannot succeed with that horror of individuality and individual rights. We know how those promises turned out don't we? Instead of heavy metal music, comics and lib writers, try history. China's Mao, Germany's Hitler, Russia's Stalin and Lenin, and a lil bit of Mussolini will tell you how that promise of utopia was so wonderful.
we're talking about a writer
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:29pm.
not a murderous dictator. Vonnegut's ideas were a function of his environment (academia and the burgeoning socialist European state) and they did nothing to damper the brilliance, and subtle humor that defined his works. Those crazy characters you spoke of were some of the most endearing I've encountered in written form - fantastic examples of the human condition.
Pedantic nature aside, debs---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:44pm.
you still come across as an asswipe.
Bet your time here is limited.
As eugenedebs, anyway.
MD
lol
Submitted by eugenedebs on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:53pm.
I can tell you why - I am an asswipe :) Usually I'm trying to be a humorous asswipe, but whatever. I've always known NB isn't the place for that. It's why I haven't posted here in months and months and...I don't know - a long time. Everyone is so angry here. Well...ban me too, I don't give a flying fornication. There's great conservative commentary on the internet...the Busters ain't it.
Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. I hear it again.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:00am.
I don't know. Is it the sound of a jackpot on a slot machine or... I swear, it is a carnival sound. No. It is the sound of a bell signalling a knockout. Ahhhh. I just can't figure where it comes from. Prolly gonna have to wait until this lying stupid sock puppet troll pops his head up again in another month or two. Dang.
you're
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:10am.
a juvenile and absurd person with a strange affiliation for sound effects that make no sense. Have fun with that.
Awww.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:27am.
You're a lying troll that is too stupid to remain anonymous. How hard is that, troll? It is the default. How many accounts is it now troll? We know of the two here today? How many prior to that? And how many are there still out there currently?
You piss and whine about civility and intelligence yet you use the mask of anonymity to lie, insult, and pass yourself off as different people. All of them talking up and agreeing with each other.
Yeah, troll, it is me. And all the others here. Not you and your inability to follow the very simple rules of the internet. Don't try and pass yourself off as another. One simple rule. And yet you are too stupid to comprehend exactly why that rule is important. But let's hear some more out of you about intelligence, mmmmkay?
you're still trying to prove
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:42am.
something you can't. That's not smart and it's not clever.
Do you find it an anomaly that I'd agree with my brother? We're both ardent conservatives, he's one year younger, we live together and read the same blogs. I found it outrageous that supposed small government advocates such as a supposed Vet (still don't believe that!) would try to silence any and all debate he/she doesn't agree with. You belong on the other side...that's where fascism is making a comeback. Meanwhile, my family of CONSERVATIVES will continue to frequent actual CONSERVATIVE blogs, avoiding the Republican apologists at the establishment News Busters.
Here's some sound effects cause I know you love 'em - honk honk wooooot! wooot! supercalifragalistic expi aladocious, OPEN SESAME!!
Continue to lie. Like I care troll.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 1:02am.
Fact is, the admins don't actively monitor comments here. You are an active sock puppet with an active sock puppet account. And as such, your days are numbered. You lie. You put on a false face to appear as though you are a new user. There is nothing more loathed on the internet. Nothing.
So pack sand. You were banned today. You will be banned again soon. Me. Still on my first account not going to any lengths whatsoever to prove anything at all to a lying stupid sock puppet of a troll. People here know who and what I am. I don't have to prove it. Everything I have said and done here speaks to exactly what I am. And the fact that you think you can unnerve me by calling me a phony soldier just confirms even more that we have in fact faced off before under yet another one of your sock puppet accounts.
And I see you took my advice and tore off that word a day page from the calendar. Now the new word is clever. What is this, a calendar that uses synonyms for a week straight?
Finally, we have here a man that continues to push the labels of how measured everyone's intelligence here. Yet, he can't understand, utterly fails to understand, fail fail fail, fails to understand I have done nothing on this day or any day before to stop someone from making his voice known. And yet here we have this overflowing diaper wearing whining little sissy of a sock puppet troll making one post after another whining about how I am trying to silence him.
Up yours you stupid stupid stupid sock puppet snit. You can't effectively argue a damn thing being as stupid as you are. Yeah, I ain't proved dren here. Ain't proved a thing. Oh except all that stuff fully available to the entire planet showing what a lowlife sock puppet ass you are.
And here is where we learn where my name came from ----
Not so sincerely,
A Veteran of a 1000 Psychic Wars.
Looking forward to 1001, I will put that notch up the day you are banned.
psychic wars!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 1:19am.
try Afganistan then get back to me.
What a loser.
That is another reason to despise you troll.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 1:52am.
In my entire life, in my entire career, I have never met another veteran that would say his experience topped that of another veteran.
You are a nasty little snit and I for one cannot wait until you meet your demise once again.
First, you spend two posts implying I am a phony soldier and now you think you can push the idea of battle experience in one field trumping that of any other.
Up yours you nasty little snit. Lying sock puppet snit.
exsqueeze me?
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:48am.
I took from what you said that you're a psychic warrior. I'm very sorry if you've actually served - I've just never heard a fellow soldier express combat experience in that way. In fact, I'm still not sure what you meant.
The snit troll stuff is really juvenile though, so that's a definite indicator of service :) Hey...I was a kid when we signed up and I'm still a kid at heart now - with a very extensive shall we say "colorful" vocabulary.
Up yours lying sock puppet troll
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 11:19am.
Yeah, I see a military sounding name, first thing I do is accuse them of being phony soldiers and then apologize later. BEGRUNT, Sergeant Rock, CobraMan, Tailgunner, Doc_Navy, QMCS. Yep, went right to calling them phony soldiers before I found out anything about them.
You are a lying divisive little snit but what do we expect from a sock puppet troll.
are you not listening!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 11:30am.
you said psychic warrior, then included me in your conquests! If you recall, the first thing my brother voiced was respect for your service.
Maybe you could explain how psychic warriors work? I still have no idea what you're talking about.
I don't care about your banned sock puppets.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 11:50am.
You can't even remember how it works now? Presenting a new personality with every new account. What does your banned sock puppet account have to do with you going right for the phony soldier accusations? Huh? Liar
And how stupid are you anyway? You can't google something before you go opening your fat trap? Huh?.Just look at your idiocy. But, yeah, you can't get the tiny things right. Being correct in a tiny little thing. A simple google search could have told you where the Psychic Wars line comes from. No. you can't do that. You got to just punch out the stupid like you just bought a hole punch and have to get your money's worth every day. One stupid. Two stupid. Three stupid. But yeah, you tell us how you got an handle on all the big issues that actually require some research and thought and can't be answered with a two minute google search.
Google - Veteran of Psychic Wars -- leads you right to this.
Idiot.
Veteran of the Psychic Wars - Blue Oyster Cult the actual song.
Lying sock puppet idiot troll.
why would I google that?
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:00pm.
I was already absolutely sure it had nothing to do with military service. You're one strange fellow. If you are indeed a veteran, I wonder how you make a living doing nothing but posting blah blah blah troll lying troll blah blah troll liar all day long? How am I lying? Dunk said he respected your service because I, my father, and his father all served.
I'm actually disabled from jumping out of a plane and a subsequent visit to an Army dentist (see: butcher). They send me a lousy 100 bucks a month. Thanks Army!
Right back to the phony soldier accusations. 3rd time.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 5:09pm.
Up yours sock puppet troll.
I'm actually...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:10pm.
proud of this thread. It's probably the most comments ever on Busters. Too bad you can't hold your own - we could duke it out on some actual good blogs.
Hey Sgt. Zippers:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:47pm.
There's a big difference between jumping out of a plane and being thrown out of a plane.
And between executing a proper PLF, or always landing---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:52pm.
head first like Sgt. "eugene" Zipperdebs.
MD
what!
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 9:52pm.
that was interesting. I only wish it meant...something.
As a lib troll, eugene, why would you---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:00pm.
even expect a reply on conservative site to somehow resonate with your supercilious sense of superiority?
We know you are an idiot; no need to continually demonstrate that fact with your inane attempts at replying with a rapier-like riposte.
MD
yes...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:12pm.
I know you love the thesaurus Matthew. It's your favorite dinosaur...good for you!
I refer you, eugene, to my---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:13pm.
previous post.
MD
no big words there.
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:23pm.
you've gone flaccid Matthew!
Not at all, eugene,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:30pm.
as I endeavor mightily to avoid resembling your thought process.
MD
meh...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 10:35pm.
that was adequate. I've seen you better - get on your game Dean.
eugene---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 11:45pm.
:o)
MD
yikes
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:07pm.
I'm also a music buff and professional musician when I can book a gig...that song sucked.
anyway
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:11pm.
I gotta go...some people have jobs. Have fun ranting about trolls and socks.
Eugene*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 11:50pm.
You wanted a substantive debate and here you are inferring something I did not intend. No where did I state that Vonnegut was a murderous dictator.
He was a creative writer espousing his beliefs through fantastical characters. His beliefs and his characters often were contradictory. He based his ideas on a liberal socialist agenda in all its naive drive for utopia but one that has proven to be murderous in its reality. Like many intellectuals, the realities of human failings are never considered in attempts to bring their agenda to fruition. Humans, by nature, aspire to individuality and persona though the desire to belong to a group is inherent. This is why we have many different professions, fashion, creativity, artists etc This is also why socialism is appealing to some but is doomed to failure. This is what is missing from Vonneguts ideals portrayed by his characters and what is missing from the OWS protestors and similar movements prior in history.
I never stated that Vonnegut was not talented, I said that intelligent people recognized his simplistic portrayals and naivete' and lost interest in his works rather quickly.
You did...
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:08am.
sorta compare him to Mao and Stalin :) That's a common comparison when it comes to anything socialist in nature, but I get it. You're quite right as well. Intelligent people could see his simplistic characterizations. Unfortunately I read his books in college and thought they were the bees knees. I even went on a socialism kick - asked my parents what's so bad about Europe? They're socialists!
Indeed they had a great influence on my young political leanings, but many many subsequent readings have been with stronger political convictions. I greatly appreciate his wit and character development. How about his crazy wife and mother in Hocus Pocus! Hilarious!
Of course there's great conservative writers. Off the top of my head - Mark Steyn, Jonah Goldberg, Micheal Crichton absolutely destroyed Global Warming in "State of Fear". Great book.
Eugene*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:33am.
Please read my post again when I spoke about Vonnegut. First, I stated that his beliefs and ideals as portrayed by his characters in his books are those ideals admired and coveted by socialist/communist. To so naively believe in a socialist utopia is the environment and ideals that led to the immersion of people like Mao, Hitler and Stalin.
I did not compare Vonnegut to those despicable dictators, I compared him to the "useful idiots" that naively followed the lies of those dictators. See the difference?
And Michael Crichton was not always a conservative. Try reading some of his earlier works and you will see an evolution in his thinking. He was very bright fellow and a creative talent. Luckily, his books will live on.
I see the difference
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 1:11am.
and I agree, but you did sort of compare them. Useful idiots were the Soviets favorite idiots, wouldn't you agree? I suppose all conversations of socialism lead to Mao, Hitler, Stalin and millions of deaths. The new useful idiots are Obama and almost every soul in Europe. "Oh, it can still work if it's a socialist republic!" Or some such nonsense.
I read Jurrassic Park, Sphere, Congo, Andromeda Strain, Eaters of the Dead. He's one of my favorites...maybe I'll do some rereading...I like to see the evolution of an author. Unfortunately I've witnessed the de-evolution of Stephen King. Not only is he a bleeding heart lib, his writing has been completely hit and miss.
The only two books worth reading from the last six years are Duma Key and Lisey's Story. Everything else take a pass...trust me or waste a few days of your life :)
Stephen King*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 1:20am.
He wrote one good book...The Stand...after that all whacko garbage. Don't waste your time on King.
You want to see "prescience" in creative writing, try to read the very early works of Arthur Clark and Isaac Asimov. You would think that those guys had access to a time machine. If you want to read books that make you think, try anything by CJ Cherryh. She's kind of a liberal, and dont read the fantasy stuff, just the sci fi. She has some great books about cloning, different cultures from other planets that really make you think.
Now, time for old ladies to log off. Behave yourself.
of course :)
Submitted by eugenedebs on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:40am.
I always behave myself. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm always looking for good reads. I'm surprised you didn't like "It", my favorite King book of all time.
The absolute best books I've read recently are "An Instance of the Fingerpost " - a 1997 historical mystery novel by Iain Pears, and quite possible the best book of all time. Then there's "Geek Love" - a novel by Katherine Dunn.
In my opinion you haven't really read if you miss these two gems.