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Bozell Column: Flunking the Citizenship Test

By Brent Bozell | March 22, 2011 | 22:29

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Anyone who’s ever seen Jay Leno do one of his “Jaywalking” segments on NBC, locating average Americans and asking them factual questions on street corners, knows there are far too many Americans who know next to nothing about just about everything. They can’t name our first president, or don’t even know what the phrase “founding fathers” means. Ask them to name our current vice president and watch the brain waves flatline.

Newsweek magazine recently announced its disgust after it offered the government’s official citizenship test (the one we require immigrants to pass before being naturalized) to 1,000 Americans. Thirty-eight percent of the sample failed. Newsweek worried in its headline: “The country's future is imperiled by our ignorance.”

The magazine was careful enough to report that civic ignorance isn’t new. One study found the yearly shifts in civic knowledge since World War II have averaged out to "slightly under 1 percent." But it worried that today’s interconnected world is “becoming more and more inhospitable to incurious know-nothings – like us.”

It’s easy to get discouraged with the results. Sixty-five percent couldn't figure out that the Constitution was penned and adopted at the Constitutional Convention; 63 couldn’t identify how many justices were on the Supreme Court (nine); and 73 percent couldn’t identify that communism was what we opposed in the Cold War.

Current national leaders aren’t so well known: 29 percent could not identify the current vice president (Joe Biden) and twice that percentage didn’t could identify the Speaker of the House (John Boehner).

Let’s start with the positive angle here. It’s a terrific idea to examine whether native-born citizens can pass the citizenship test, and an astonishing embarrassment to learn how many can’t. Some public schools have used the citizenship test as a social-studies project in civic knowledge. A daring principal could make passage of the citizenship test a high-school graduation requirement. Promoting better civic and historical knowledge is an important cause. 

But this leads to a follow-up question for Newsweek and its media colleagues: Do journalists see building civic knowledge as an important part of their job?

A few years ago, when a pollsters asked Americans to name two of Snow White's Seven Dwarfs and two of the nine U.S. Supreme Court Justices, 77 percent of Americans polled were able to identify two dwarfs, while only 24 percent could name two Supreme Court Justices.

But how often are the Justices discussed on news programs, where ostensibly Americans receive their civic education? A quick Nexis search for Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, to take one example, finds her mentioned less than once a month each on ABC, CBS and NBC morning and evening newscasts in 2010: ten on ABC, eight on NBC, six on CBS. That’s just mentions, not stories.

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Or take “communism.” The word was mentioned just 19 times on the Big Three morning and evening newscasts in 2010 (eight on ABC, seven on CBS, four on NBC). That’s despite Communist parties still ruling China, North Korea, and Cuba, among others.

Perhaps the news media think they don’t have time or space to waste on high-school basics about civics. Newsweek turns to liberal experts to find agreeable culprits for civic ignorance, such as “our reliance on market-driven programming rather than public broadcasting,” which would  “foster greater knowledge” than commercial news.

But guess what? Playing our Nexis game, Ruth Ginsburg was only mentioned six times and the word communism was only mentioned seven times on the PBS NewsHour in all of 2010. Someone wouldn’t necessarily get a better test score from Jim Lehrer than from Katie Couric.

The liberals at Newsweek also blamed America’s decentralized or federalist system of government. We have civic ignorance, they report, since unlike Europeans and their majority-rule parliamentary systems, Americans have to contend with voting for “subnational” officials. Likewise, American schools are “decentralized” and managed by states, without a central national curriculum.

How ironic that Newsweek would find Americans ignorant for not knowing the authors of the Federalist Papers even as they blame federalism for our civic stupidity.

Naturally the magazine also blamed America for having “one of the highest levels of income inequality in the developed world, with the top 400 households raking in more money than the bottom 60 percent combined.” Those darn successful people. So if we more aggressively redistributed wealth, Newsweek suggests, more people would know who the Vice President is.

There are more direct culprits that could correct this ignorance: teachers, parents, and yes, journalists, for not emphasizing this “rote knowledge” of the facts around which we organize our government and remember our history.

By the way, Newsweek only mentioned Justice Ginsburg three times in 2010. 

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Brent Bozell is founder and president of the Media Research Center and publisher of NewsBusters. Click here to follow Brent Bozell on Twitter.
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It's a good thing Newswreck only sampled 1000 sheeple

Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:41pm.

...which is probably all they could afford to, anyway.

Had they hit 280 million, they would have sampled the bulk of the American Idol-watching, People Magazine-reading, Charlie Sheen-following government-schooled jock-sniffing morons, and the results would have been much, much worse.

-Dave

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As long as those morons don't vote,

Submitted by lsudolemite on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:56pm.

that's fine and dandy by me.
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"As long as those morons don't vote"

Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:04pm.

If only. :-( -Dave

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As long as those morons don't vote---

Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:14pm.

But , unfortunately, they do.

I give you Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Rangel, Waters, Wiener, Durbin, Sibelius, Sheila Jackson Lee, Alcee Hastings, Marion Berry, ad nauseum -  liberal Democrats..

Hell, I'll even throw in McCain, Snowe, Castle, and a ton of Republican politicos both past and present.

MD

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md,

Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:55pm.

Yep, screwed at both ends we have been, and at the same time, too.

Ouch!

-Dave

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Too lost to vote

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 6:47am.

How many of these people would vote if they were not being pounded by the media that it is their responsibility to vote (even if you know nothing), rounded up by multiple left leaning groups (many Soros funded), polling stations convenient for college students with MTV on hand to urge participation, free rides (drinks, smokes and food in some cases last year), mail in ballots filled out for them by ACORN, etc...

We have convinced people that the act of voting is more important than knowing what you are voting for - just like people quit reading the fine print years ago.

Besides does anyone remember this quiz from a three years ago and the results (it didn't seem to get much media time):

"Of the 2,508 People surveyed, 164 say they have held an elected government office at least once in their life. Their average score on the civic literacy test is 44%, compared to 49% for those who have not held an elected office. Officeholders are less likely than other respondents to correctly answer 29 of the 33 test questions. This table shows the “knowledge gap” for each question: the difference between the percentage of common citizens who answered correctly and the percentage of officeholders who answered correctly."

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I just took the quiz and am

Submitted by MikeB on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 9:05am.

I just took the quiz and am ashamed to report I only score 90.91%. On the bright side, the site said that college educators averaged 55%
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MikeB,

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 9:09am.

That makes you too intelligent to hold public office.
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It's telling

Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:21am.

that the question fewest people answered correctly was the one on Free Markets vs. Centralized Planning.

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HockeyKid,

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:24am.

If you read the premise of the prominent theories offered by the winners of the Nobel Prize in Economics over the last couple of decades you will find that several of the winners are those whose theories blur the lines between free market and centralized planning.  A couple have basically come up with theories that explain how the government can run a 'Free Market'.

Of course none of this is a surprise from the Nobel committee.

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Like renewing your driver's license

Submitted by IgnatzJFahrquar on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 8:20am.

Every 4 years you have to take a civics exam to be allowed to vote. Ehh, what am I thinking. The head racist at the DOJ will just issue an order to lower the passing test scores. EDIT: I see NB still has not fixed the formatting for comments. One big runon paragraph. So glad they upgraded. /sarc
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Steadman, I mean,

Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:27am.

Eric Holder and the DOJ will mandate a 58% passing score for blacks and illegal aliens and a 98% passing score for white conservatives and "other" Republicans.
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Actually, Ol' Steadman Graham will---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 5:18pm.

post some of "his people", wearing all black, and carrying batons, in front of the building to intimidate and hopefully prevent white conservatives from even entering the building to take the test.

MD

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They must have in the last

Submitted by mel21221 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 9:31am.

They must have in the last election. How else can you explain that we got and "American Idol" as president? "We" elected a rock star with no experience running anything in his life, voted "present" a majority of the time as a legislator, and who we were force fed was brilliant because he could read a teleprompter. And now "we" reap what "we've" sown (quotes because it's "We the People", not "we" including "me").
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And the amazing difference

Submitted by Ole_Sarge on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:20am.

When Jay Leno a couple years back did the same segment on a military base overseas, the guys and gals in uniform KNEW without hesitation who was who in government.

Then Jay had to change the questions to "popular culture" and "current" celebrities that are celebrities for being famous... Very dismal results, Kardashians? Aren't they an alien race on the TV show "Deep Space 9?"
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Ole Sarge

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:40am.

I see this with family all the time. At gatherings there are those who discuss "jersey shore', "cupcake Wars" and Charlie Sheen at great length (depth would certainly be the wrong word) as my husband and I sit looking blankly because we know or care very little for these topics. But if Wisconsin, or Cap & Trade (don't get me started on what my brother thinks net neutrality is!) they
 sit looking on blankly...

What scares me is that they vote.

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Wasn't Newsweek

Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:42pm.

recently sold for a dollar? Concerning American's knowledge level, I hate it when pollsters ask really vague questions. When we hear a poll story on the news it will sound something like: "When asked if the federal government was doing enough to....." My wife and I will scream in unison, "Ask them if they have the slightest idea what the government is doing RIGHT NOW!"
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You're a day late and a dollar short, Tugboat...

Submitted by Jer on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:55pm.

but maybe Newsweek will loan you a buck. ;-)

Jer

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Jer,

Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:34pm.

I think Tuggy is on his own, 'cause I'm pretty sure that dollar went for the first month's rent.

:-^)

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Dave...

Submitted by Jer on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 1:10am.

I have no idea where the dollar may be but I strongly suspect it won't be found framed and proudly displayed on the wall behind the desk of some former Newsweek exec.

Jer

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Jer,

Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 1:32am.

LOL - My guess is shredded and flushed.

But that's just me.  :-)

-Dave

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Dave, or...

Submitted by Jer on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 1:42am.

added to loose change rummaged from ex-limo driver's pockets and used for bus fare.

Jer

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Jer,

Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 2:04am.

LOL.

And I bet when the driver threw him off the bus, he had to hoof the last 1.5 miles in the snow.

Uphill, even.  :-O

-Dave

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It is nothing new

Submitted by richb313 on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:55pm.

All my life, 59 plus years and counting, the majority of Americans lead thier lives blissfully unaware of the daily news and get most of thier information from the Sports and Entertainment Media. I am beginning to think they may be onto something. By and large they are a happier bunch. You see the more informed you are, the angrier you will tend to be. It seems to me that almost all the Politicians, Career Government Types, Pundits and Analysts all seem to be really angry about something or other most of the time. I think I need to disconnect for a little while, just to get a little peace.
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I honestly considered giving up news for Lent for precisely that

Submitted by lsudolemite on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:59pm.

reason. All it does is piss me off and there's nothing that can be done to change it. If the lesson our GOP brain trust took from a landslide victory in November was not to defund Obamacare because of their precious, inviolate House rules, then it's over.
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PICTIONARY

Submitted by JPTSO3 on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 10:56pm.

Was part of the test, pictures? Based on the pic of Ginsburg, I might have gotten the "who is depicted in this picture?" question wrong. 

a. Frau Blucher

b. Ruth Ginsburg

c. The Wicked Witch of the West

d. Your worst morning wakeup after a night of heavy drinking....

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Pictionary test---

Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:07pm.

most multiple choice tests have the giveaway "all of the above" as a possible, and in this case, correct, answer.

MD

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AND THE TEACHERS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF WHAT?

Submitted by JDL on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:13pm.

If the teachers were not so busy steering our children away from our true History and towards homosexual acceptance, how to apply a condom and how to eat carrots and sea weed we might see better test scores.
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What needs to be known other

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:22pm.

What needs to be known other than in 2008 Obama the Great destroyed the Bush hate regime and created an enlighted islamic-centric, peaceful , prospering, environmentally friendly society loved and worshipped by all other lesser nations.
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another dinger

Submitted by deadeyedan on Tue, 03/22/2011 - 11:48pm.

Former National Hurricane Center director Steve Lyons told of strolling the beaches along the Gulf Coast during the spring of 2005, just ahead of a record-setting hurricane season, occasionally stopping to ask folks if they would evacuate in case of a hurricane, especially if there was an evacuation order. He reported that a hefty 40% told him they would not leave in such an event. When he went to New Orleans he stopped in a restaurant and then asked his waitress what she would do. "What's a hurricane?" was the reply. No kidding; and there was such a rush to blame Bush for Katrina a few months later. Case closed - idiots are just rampant. "Liberalism - government of the people, by the theories and for the ideologists" - deadeyedan
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agree deadeye*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 12:21am.

Just a day or so before Gustov and Ike hit south La, I was making necessary preparations when I got a call from a young woman ( business) from North Carolina. When I told her that it would be 2-3 weeks before I could complete our business, she asked why. When I told her that La was about to get hit again with back to back hurricanes, she asked me.....where is Louisiana?

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Trying to Reason With Hurricane Season

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 12:32am.

The main problem being, there are amateurs and snowbirds, who think it's all fun and games.  OH COOL, A HURRICANE PARTY!

I have been through quite a few of them in my lifetime.  I know for a fact, anything above a High 2, I am going, going, gone.  If I lived in the Keys, I'd probably revise that downward to a 1, because of the shallow seabed, allowing for a monster storm surge.  (Same as in the Gulf)....where I live, it drops to 200' within about a half a mile from shore, there is no physical way for the surge to build.  We'll get big bad chop, but not tsunami like surges.  I expect a little bit of encroachment due to the wind pushing the water, maybe even up to the house...but no flooding (and my survey says, 5 ft above mean high tide).

Mega Yachts in floating into my back yard, however, is a different story.  Although I also know for a fact that they stay tied up, in this sheltered harbour, up through 115 mph winds.  So no worries.  Besides, these boats are worth 5x what my house is worth, so what do I care?  finder's keepers.

Quite seriously, Caj...I'd love to figure out a way to get the liberals off of legislating nanny state crap...and make them outlaw stupidity (wouldn't that be a trick, have them put themselves all away for life?). 

 

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Anyone stupid enough Blonde*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 12:58am.

My first hurricane of memory was Audrey 1956. Most people outside of hurricane territory dont understand the amount of time involved. It isnt like a thunderstorm passing through. No matter how much nanny state is involved, individuals facing them, as you know, better have knowledge and preparation. We should have a rule. Anyone making policy regarding the Gulf and East Coast Emergency services should be required to endure a couple of them. Just the stress, the days before and after, no power, flooding, and dont forget them illegals, stowaway mosquitos that ride in with the hurricanes.

You do such a good job with your blog I suggest you do a timeline journal of our next hurricane. Explicit detail of weather reports, computer models of landfall, expected surge,  meaning of the Category. Not to mention the supplies needed to last 10 days or so without power. Recovery and repair, dealing with FEMA and of course, Insurance Adjusters.

Cooking everything in the freezer and sharing with the power company workers and those clearing the roads, and your neighbors. And of course, the interesting part would be how we occupy ourselves,,;-)  while we sit and endure hours of howling wind at 100mph and count the shingles flying off your roof while without power, computers, tv, cell phones, and no air conditioning!!!

Your next project hopefully won't happen THIS hurricane season but lets do our part to educate the stooopids.

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Well, Caj, thanks for the thumbs up on my blogging....

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 1:15am.

....but I think I'd rather not write it. Not this year, not next, either.

However, if it happens, I'll do it.  It is what it is, as we say.  :)

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I use to surf the hurricanes,

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 3:51am.

I use to surf the hurricanes, it was great fun.  I can see ambivalence of a hurricane coming if they haven't done much damage in a while.  Then there was that one time we were surfing and my life has been a bit more careful.  Usually all it takes is once.

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Don't believe everything you read. Behind the scene, Liberals,

Submitted by Rush Fan on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 1:06am.

such as those at NewsWeek, are more than satisfied with the educational level of our citizens. To Liberals, an uneducated and uninformed citizenry are seldom inquisitive, rarely use reason or facts in making decisions  (such as who to vote for), and are easier to persuade and manipulate with lies, obfuscations, Hope and Change. Kudos to the teachers unions for helping accomplish this goal.

Thus when John Ziegler interviewed  twelve Obama voters on Election day in 2008, the video of these interviews was shocking and disgusting, but not surprising.

No problem. The uneducated and uninformed are in good hands. They rely on the superior intellectual elite, such as Barack Obama, who have been groomed at Harvard or other liberal hotbed, specifically for the task of leading and providing for the lower nonintellectual class.

But Liberals are smart enough not to put "all their eggs in one basket".  To imsure that there is an ongoing supply of uneducated and uninformed who vote for and rely on Democrats,  Liberals are pushing for open borders and amnesty.  Remember that one of the  important Liberal  mantras is: You never want a serious crisis or an illegal alien to go to waste.

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Ignorant "citizens"

Submitted by Huapakechi on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 1:20am.

Put the blame squarely where it belongs, our public education/socialist indoctrination system.
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Don't feel bad about it.

Submitted by Ozconservative on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 6:54am.

Most Aussies couldn't name our first prime minister, and I'm willing to bet that most Brits couldn't tell you who William Pitt was either. It's all due to left-wing, hand wringing, limp wristed education that produces as Dave put it: "American Idol-watching, People Magazine-reading, Charlie Sheen-following government-schooled jock-sniffing morons" Might I add Obama worshipping and global warming believing.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill
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Shameful.

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 7:10am.

And this "education" comes from liberals who claim that their job is is not to educate students about "dead white men" but to teach them to become good citizens.

How the heck can they become good citizens when they don't know the first thing about how our country works?

Then again, their idea of a good "citizen" is a lot different from that of most people.

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Liberals are applauding...

Submitted by shooter on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 8:03am.

Liberals are applauding, because they don't believe in American exceptionalism. They don't believe citizens of one country should be smarter than another. They believe America has been on top too long and should be taken down a few notches, anyway. They believe America is too competitive. They believe education should be all about feeling good, self-esteem, and that "at least you tried" not about hard work, competition, and learning So, if you don't know who the Vice President is, go thank a liberal.

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Leno has proven this in LA for 20 years

Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 9:05am.

JDL put it bluntly and perfectly.

They are busy pushing agendas in the classrooms while reaching nothing about US as a people, for the people and WHAT we used to stand for a s a people.

But our "founding Father's" were just a bunch of racists anyway.

NewsWeak can denote a whole story on this, is there any mention of our failing school systems that teach "Chicago math" or "Everyday math" that means absolute bullshit in the real world.

Doubt me, give $20.06 for an order that costs $2.56 and WATCH THE HEAD EXPLODE..........

If you make poverty easy, you will have more of it. Benjamin Franklin
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No longer a problem

Submitted by Model850 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:54am.

"... give $20.06 for an order that costs $2.56 and WATCH THE HEAD EXPLODE....."

Nah. With the computerized cash registers that's not really a problem anymore. Just punch in the numbers and the computer tells 'em how much to give back. Sadly, even then you still sometimes get the wrong change!

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Here's what they teach in public schools these days...

Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 12:14pm.

Here is some of the garbage today's public school children are taught: "inventive" math and spelling, global warming and other enviro-wacko nonsense, victimhood, and, last but certainly not least, sex, sex and more sex. Worse still, the children are allowed to "graduate" while being functionally illiterate. The problems, of course, include some lazy teachers, even lazier parents and the trash that masquerades as "textbooks". I don't intend to ridicule the good teachers among us; in fact, I was taught by some first-rate teachers in a public school district. But times have changed from the 1970's to now...
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Can't help noticing....

Submitted by c5then on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 9:05am.

That this is NOT being identified as the abject failure of the public education system that it is.
Not knowing current event details (like the current VP or Speaker of the House) is not terrible but not knowing the basics about the functioning of the government and key historical data is absolutely horrific.
It is proof that the public education system has been designed not to produce decent citizens, but to produce imbecile sheeple who can more easily be herded in the direction that the elites want to move them.

Step one: teach that Democrats are champions of the poor.
Step two: Create as many poor as possible.
Step three: repeat

 

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You forgot

Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:47am.

Step two.five: Hand out meager benefits to the poor while expounding, "It's the best we can do for now."

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Seems about right.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 9:53am.

"Ask them to name our current vice president and watch the brain waves flatline."

And why not, since out VP's brain waves flat lined many years ago.

Never though I'd of thunk it, but Biden might make a better president than Barry!

Comrade Bubba
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A birch tree

Submitted by HockeyKid on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:48am.

would make a better president than Obysmal.

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As we have now entered the

Submitted by Snappy on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:21am.

As we have now entered the New Age of Hope and Enlightenment, why are we still concerned with past events? For that matter with our open arms ...and borders, why are we still concerned with a citizenship test. The Age of Obama is upon us.....thats all we need to know, the past is inconsequential.
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Sad

Submitted by griv on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:23am.

A story the other day found that the "moderates" were actually not only moderate but almost totally ignorant of the issues. The far right and far left know 1000X more about the issues even if the far left's version/view of those issues is wrought with insanity and socialist doctrine.
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Why does Ginsburg have to keep rubbing in the fact

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:36am.

that all she eats is lobster?

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About 40 years

Submitted by iveseenitall on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:37am.

It has taken about four decades for our "educational" system to go from one of the best in the wold to one of the worst. And the fault can be placed squarely on the ignorant, politically correct, undisciplined, self-loathing, hypocritical, mendacious, loud-mouth LIBERALS! Moreover,the mess America is in around the world is the fault of the LIBERALS! Deny it all day long -- but its true and everyone knows it. [ NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive) ]
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Well, gee...

Submitted by Phryj1 on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 12:49pm.

Do you think it could have anything to do with the fact that in our schools and colleges they teach that patriotism is bad, American Exceptionalism is an outdated and somehow offensive and bigoted concept, and that the U.S.A. and everything about it is the cause of all the problems in the world? Basically, they are teaching students that America is bad, so naturally, they're not going to be interested in learning more about it.

Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.

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Part of it is schools, part

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 2:13pm.

Part of it is schools, part of it is a lack of curiosity by people. No matter how good your education was, you might not know the justices if you aren't curious enough about world events to keep track of that info yourself. Plus there is a definite popular movement afoot that high fallutin' book learning isn't all that important, that common sense and patriotism is all you need to succeed.

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common sense and patriotism

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 4:23pm.

These are foundation - book learning makes up the building blocks. Too many in leadership today have the blocks on very weak foundation and we all know what happens when you apply pressure to a structure with a weak foundation.

Nice attempt at snotty!

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You don't think there's a

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:00pm.

You don't think there's a certain faction that is poo-pooing "knowing things" and "book learning"?

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No balboa

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 10:12pm.

I don't. I think there is a resentment by the people who would could be considered the working class about being lectured to and condescended to by people who have rarely if ever stepped out of the academic world (consultant nor political work counts).  While calling these people elitist and other less socially graceful names it is their practical knowledge and experience that is being attacked not their education. 

To expand on the analogy: if patriotism and common sense are foundation, education the blocks then practical experience and application of theories is the mortar that holds it all together assuming that the lessons expand to include real lessons of success and failure. 

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"I think there is a

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:21pm.

"I think there is a resentment by the people who would could be considered the working class about being lectured to and condescended to by people who have rarely if ever stepped out of the academic world"

I think that's true. But it is being construed by some, and distorted by others, as a dislike or mistrust of anyone who cares about learning, knowledge, etc., that it's not important.

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No it's not Bal

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:28pm.

as a dislike or mistrust of anyone who cares about learning, knowledge, etc., that it's not important.

 

Not true, knowledge requires truth, when folks ignore prudence and simple math is when Academia get the boot.

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bal and perception

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 11:35pm.

This a perception which is being driven by the very elitism that rubs most people the wrong way. Who is really devaluing a well rounded education when one side is disregarding the value of life experience and closing their minds to opposing voices while referring to others as 'close minded' and the other side is speaking out to have their points of view acknowledged and discussed, albeit at times in a less than gracious way.

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Newsweek polls

Submitted by Blorg on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 2:24pm.

Newsweak has always had polls that make me wonder: where did they find these people that they polled? There is always the potential for a bias in polls that people give the answer that they think the pollster wants to hear. I remember one Newsweak Poll from several years ago where a vast majority supposedly agreed that "no amount of money was too much to spend on protecting the environment". I've always wondered how many people would still have agreed with this statement if the next question was: "How much more can we deduct from your next paycheck?"
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It's our educational system stupid!

Submitted by MacWell on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 8:50am.

When the educators stopped teaching civics and began to teach social justice, (what ever the hell that means), our system of government started to go downhill. They're more interested in teaching about black history, women's issues, sexual freedom, the perils of the downtrodden, etc. etc. instead of equipping the next generation to lead the world.
We the people stood by while one woman effectively threw God out of the classroom.
We the people stood by while 20% of the population, (liberal/socialist/communist) began to dictate what we could say, what we could eat, drive, what we could and couldn't do with our own land. How we raised our children, where we could visit, (much of our national parks are off limits), and on and on.
We the people stood by and allowed avowed anarchists and communists to run rampant in our government.
We the people stood by and allowed those who, BY THEIR OWN WORDS, hate America, and all she stands for, to be relegated to "third world status", by reelecting them over and over because they promised free stuff.
I'm sorry folks but the problems we, as Americans, face now are of our own doing.
Now, the good news.
We the people have been awakened from our slumber and we're angry as hell.
Next year, in november, we will decide that America's future will be___________?
Only we can fill in the blank.
Only we the people can either restore America to it's once prominent position, or continue down the destructive path that the left has taken us.
Please, know who you're voting for.
Please research the people who're running in your state, county, and city.
Please become involved in your local school boards and elect people who have a proven record of character and the tenacity to FIX our schools. That is the only way we will save this great nation.
It's up to you and me, only we can return America to it's founding principals.
It's obvious that the left is only interested in their own welfare, not your children's

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Very good

Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 03/24/2011 - 9:03am.

I agree wholeheartedly. This entitlement scourge that roams our schools has to be eliminated, and replaced with self respect.

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