Bozell Column: More F-Bombs for Your i-Pod
The top of the pop charts has become a low, low, place indeed. Just last summer, the singer Cee-Lo took popular culture one rung lower into the sewer with the release of his song titled “F--- You.” After a few weeks, it was mainstreamed into “Forget You,” but why bother? While both versions sold well, the vulgar one clearly had its intended effect.
The pop star Pink now has her own version with her new single titled “F---in' Perfect.” How creative. That’s reaching for the stars.
Once again, there are two versions, with the words “less than” replacing the profanity. Again, why bother pretending to be concerned about standards? The original song contains seven F-bombs. She asks “don't you ever ever feel / Like you're less than f---in' perfect,” and then insists “you're f---in' perfect to me!”
It's topped the charts at iTunes – deliberately putting profanity smack dab into children's iPods from coast to coast. (You can thank LaFace Records and its Japanese parent company Sony Music, the second-largest global provider of recorded music.) Like Cee-Lo's “F--- You,” the F-bomb is utterly unnecessary. It's only there for naughty “buzz.”
The video for “Perfect” is disturbing as well, with the depressed female protagonist sinking to a low where she descends into a bathtub and carves the word “perfect” into her forearm. In the blood-spattered tub, she appears to be waiting to bleed to death...but then she apparently resolves to live and regains self-confidence after staring across the room at her childhood teddy bear. The story ends happily. As in the beginning of the video, she's in bed with a man, who it's implied she just met.
Then she takes her teddy bear to her daughter (with some other man, obviously). The viewer is supposed to be happy for Mommy – but it's hard not to wonder whether the little girl in this story would ever have a stable home.
Pink is clearly succeeding on the radio and in the marketplace with her image as a rough girl with a dirty mouth. She's also still on the pop charts with the song “Raise Your Glass.” The shock-jock passage of this video depicts a string of lovers in her bed. It starts with a Jewish rabbi. Then, taking their turns next to the star in bed appear to be a Catholic cardinal, an Orthodox priest, and lastly, a nun, as Pink raises her eyes to God in the heavens with a prayer of “Thank you.”
The video also features Pink fiercely stabbing a bullfighter with two swords, who then falls to his knees. This is apparently an Animal Rights Thing, since Pink has been an activist with the radical group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. A few seconds later, Pink is feeding a calf with a bottle, but the bottle is attached to a hose that appears to come from milking the (covered) breasts of four seated and blindfolded human females. Despite looking calm (or perhaps drugged), the women appear to be hostages, since Pink and her male cohorts are wearing masks. The words “dairy farm” are spray painted on the wall behind.
In between the two animal-rights scenes, Pink also throws in a full-on gay male kiss. That's also a Political Message for the masses. In a 2008 interview, she complained about defenders of traditional marriage: “Why are we concentrating on taking away love from people? Who are we to say we need less love in the world? It’s so beyond what we should be focusing on right now.”
Now it’s about to get ridiculous. MTV reports that Cee-Lo will perform an "unforgettable" version of his "F--- You" song at the Grammy Awards with...are you ready?....The Muppets. Brian Henson, the son of Muppets founder Jim Henson, has signed on to provide this star’s “weird and cool” band.
The world of pop music today is selling a far different message than what most parents realize. Traditional values, even the most simple expressions and symbols of common decency – the Muppets! – are deliberately being torn to shreds. When you can’t even count on the Muppets to behave in front of children, the world has become sick enough to make your head spin.
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Lowest common denominator
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:55am.
equals greatest exposure.
More variety I say
Submitted by shawn. on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:59am.
One clean versian and one not so clean. Pinks last album tanked and people were writing her off. She has made a strong comeback. Good for her.Good for her?
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:03am.
She spit vulgar lyrics to get there. So that's good? You must be kidding?
Talent doesn't need that. If she had talent, she wouldn't either.
GOOD FOR HER, GEESH!
Yes good for her and no I am not kidding
Submitted by shawn. on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 1:09pm.
Her last album bombed and this album is very successful. It's a good comeback story. I don't mind her lyrics at all, but I don't expect everyone to agree with me. That is why America is great, so people have right to different choices.This is Shawn we're talking
Submitted by bretzysdude on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 8:56pm.
This is Shawn we're talking about here.
Moving on... Nothing to see here...
It's the post and run troll brezkydude
Submitted by shawn. on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:57pm.
Did you get a live feed from your all knowing friends from facebook about this song too?No Big
Submitted by rammingspeed on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:17pm.
I agree, good for her. Her fans are, if anything, even more "steet" than she, and her style is between she and them. She is undeniably talented, has the usual ups and downs of entertainers in her field, and she's now on an uptick. Cuss words here and there don't make the difference. After all, wasn't Obama care a "big f*cking deal?" according to the estimable Vice President of the US?
Like so many other "artists"...
Submitted by All American on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:04am.
OVER - amplified and UNDER- talented.
If you cant impress with brilliance, bedazzle with Bullsh*t !
Cursing is viewed by some as
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:13am.
Cursing is viewed by some as off limits and never proper. I believe that is an extremist viewpoint. I curse frequently when discussing our current government, especially our current Pres__ent.
Words have meaning and so long as they applied to convey theproper meaning, I am OK with that. So how do I address that in terms of kids? Well, I don't curse intentionally around children not among my core group of friends but I certainly do curse around my own. The rule at our house is that kids cannot curse until they are old enough to drive and they demonstrate an accurate understanding of each word's meaning in order that they will be able to use a particular word properly.
Some tell me this is a cynical position - as if there is wrong there. But you know what? People curse. And often times they actually mean it. I know when I curse about government, I sure mean it. I choose not to hide that reality from my kids.
Others say that it cheapens the discussion, song, or position. I would agree with that to a degree, it would depend on the situation. In coversations on the NB pages the cursing is quite few and far between but it still pops up here and there sometimes. The times I have read them here, they sure looked genuine to me.... I can only view it like this - I would rather view an honest curse word than a fake representation just trying to be politically correct in leaving it out. I don't much for "fakeness".
I would offer this piece somewhat agrees with positions. If a singer wants to make a song of this nature, then leave it as it is and don't clone it with a "nice version". Don't make it "fake" by scrubbing it.
I detest this notion that a group can basically ban certain words. That is a slippery slope I am not willing to see our society go down because the bottom of that hill is a very ugly place.
There is a proper time and place for a suit and tie just as there is for blue jeans and tee shirts. There is also a proper time and place for perfectly constructed paragraphs, with full use of a thesaurus, just like there is regarding a curse filled rant.
To kids who are taught that all cursing is forever taboo - within them resides an attraction to someone who curses to music. The music business marketers prey upon this like schools of Amazonian piranha. My kids are quite resistant to such targetting, well, at least until they can drive. It might seem like a corny strategy, but I have kids who haven't yet been "caught" cursing.
I hate profanity - in movies, TV, or on the bus
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:24am.
My friend, you have to remember that there are people with sensitive ears out there, including me. Over the years, I have come to despise profanity, whether it's in the movies, TV, or on the bus with people using "yell" phones. The "f-bomb" is the worst of all. To me, not only is profanity offensive, but it's also unimaginative and frankly, boring.
Yes, I admit that I did use some foul language, especially in college, but then I grew up and realized that there are many creative, G-rated ways to express frustration. Remember this old saying: Profanity makes ignorance audible.
Mary,
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 1:45pm.
So then, speech should be controlled in your eyes, by government? Al Sharpton would be proud to have you on his team as he touts that same "offensiveness" in his hearing while he targets Rush for sanction. My friend, think it through.
It doesn't matter if you like it or not. It is not your place to decide for another what they will or will not say. Your likes and dislikes do not my decision make. Let me ask you this;
Does the word "flackeldom" make ingorance audible? You see, you have been "taught" that a certain word or words qualify for such a thing. You have been indoctrinated to believe something by having it drilled into your head that it is so - just because some say it is so. That is exactly the game Al Sharpton is playing with Rush today. Do you offer validity to Al's premise? Well, by your last post, I would have to say you do. Are you sure you want to do that?
What I hope you will consider is the "rating" system you employ without thinking through the premise of it in the first place. If you must attack a curse word or a comma or spelling, it means you steer clear of the base substance of the debate. That, my friend, is what liberals and other progressives do.
I will put it to you like this FWIW, are you more offended by a particular word said or by the act of forcing a particular word to be unsaid?
Who the **** are you to make
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 2:50pm.
Who the fuck are you to make absurd generalizations from a person saying she finds profanity boring. Did she say she wanted to censor YOUR fucking speech?
Fucking dickhead.
See, we can all say and write fucking this and fucking that, but guess what, it does get fucking boring every other fucking word. Fucking get it?
Oh and Sathchmo, when did Shakepeare use fuck in one of his plays or sonnets?
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
I never said he did. Who the
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 3:04pm.
I never said he did. Who the fuck are you to make absurd charges against one responding to someone who says she suffers from sensitive ears?I am me, but who are...
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 4:23pm.
I am me, but who are fucking you?
And it's a bit pathetic to try to revisit my minor reducio ad absurdum riposte to that LIMP DICK above who made the false accusation about fucking censorship.
Something the LADY did NOT suggest, by the way.
So get off your high fucking horse cowboy.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Careful, she's sensitive to
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 6:13pm.
Careful, she's sensitive to language, you gentleman, you.Jack easy with the language dude
Submitted by shawn. on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 6:53pm.
I know you are not a fan of Satchmo, but tone it down man.Shawn, Tone it down? LOL I
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:20pm.
Shawn,
Tone it down? LOL I thought you were all about freedom of expression by any means?
So, people should tone it down, but not the entertaiment business, the adult industry, etc. Just those who you deem should tone it down? LOL
HAHA!!!
You don't seem too familiar
Submitted by Satchmo on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:34pm.
You don't seem too familiar with the free market, do you?
Satchmo, Errr....what the
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:52pm.
Satchmo,
Errr....what the heck? Where did I say anything that goes against the free market?
I just pointed out Shawn's typical contradictions. He wants freedom of speech for everyone, except of course those who he wants to tone it down!
Amazing how he is for Pink cussing her head off, but demands that someone else tones it down!
now care to point out where I attacked the free market or said anyone coudl not use fowl language? LOL WOW!!!
He means 'free market' as in sex partners
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 3:32pm.
Nothing is excluded.
It's like all free and stuff.
Hey, let's all meet up at Spahn's Movie Ranch next weekend!
People here (JackBauer) vs.
Submitted by Satchmo on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 4:32pm.
People here (JackBauer) vs. entertainment (the free market). It's not my fault you can't and couldn't distinguish the two when you tried to jump on shawn.Ummm Satchmo?
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:05pm.
Not not that I don't appreciate it or anything, but umm I think your endorsement hurts me more than helps me ;-)Sachtmo, So, you are for
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:23pm.
Sachtmo, So, you are for freedom of expression in the entertaiment industry, but not on NB. OK GOT IT! Haha! Jack has the freedom to express himself as.he wishes and is up to NB, not you, me or Absent to do anything about it. In fact the free market rules inside NB too. If we do not like a poster he is ignored and the go away. Of course NB be can do ad it pleases ad much as Jack Bauer. i have ZERO doubt that hr is more than ready to accept the consequences of his language on NB, you know taking responsabilty for his words.There is a reading
Submitted by Satchmo on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:40pm.
There is a reading comprehension disease around here.
Worry about your own problems first
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:31am.
...says the one with the biggest problem with reading comprehension on NB.
Once again Incestmo is busy attacking others for his very own failings. I guess that is easier for him than actually adressing his own failings.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Sorry LL
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:17pm.
I didn't realize encouraging freedom of expression in the entertainment industry and discouraging profanity on a website that NB owns and clearly states that using profanity is against the rules is the same. I will try much harder in the future to live up up to your standards because I know you never use double standards. And never contridict yourself. You have proven to be true person that I can look up to. I Always appreciate the advice buddy. :-) editShawn, Buddy, friend... so
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:35pm.
Shawn, Buddy, friend... so you want to encourage freedom of expression in certain industries and not others, ok GOTCHA! Jack has the right and freedom to express himself as he wishes, but he must be ready to accept responsability for his language if NB chooses to take action. Responsability is a very important concept not understood by those who praise and worship an industry which uses and abuses underage girls. ;-)Well LL
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:48pm.
I support the right to cuss or express yourself on a song somebody wants to download or buy voluntarily, but I do not believe that Dora The Explorer should say Swiper you f_c_ing piece of sh!t mother ___king c_cksucking fox. Don't take my F_c_ing stuff or I will will stuff this burrito up your a$$. I don't like cussing on his board and many others do not either. Like I said, it took a person like you to point out swearing on The Disney Channel is the same as HBO. Thx buddy.Shawn, who cares what YOU
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:04pm.
Shawn, who cares what YOU like or do not like. you cannot claim that you are for freedom of expression and then ask someone to tone it down. You want freedom of expression for pink, but not for Jack if you do not like his words do not read them. Unlike the porn industry that you worship, Jack is not forcing underage girls to do things. typical of individuals like you who scream about freedoms when it comes to defending the porn industry, which uses underage girls, but when YOU do not like someone using their freedoms you cry about it.Lol LL brings up porn again
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:15pm.
I hardly ever bring this topic up unless I create the forum myself. Your obsessed dude. Many people on this site do not like profanity on this site but don't mind using it in their own personal conversations or watching it in a movie. Ok LL your talking points are brilliante as always especially when you can magically change apples into oranges. ;-)Shawn, As always you prove
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:26pm.
Shawn, As always you prove that logic is not your forte. 1) who cares what you or I like to read on NB. If you do not like a poster you have the freedom not to read his posts. I am aware of the speech police members on NB. I 100% disagree with them on this matter. 2) you love defending speech, mainly when it comes to porn, or am I wrong? You were also defending Pink and her right to express herself as she wishes. Then you ask Jack to stop expressing himself as he wishes. Please tell me that you see the hypocrisy of this! Everything else is childish behavior and words from you to distract from your hypocrisy on freedom of speech.Nope
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:46pm.
I don't agree. They are two different things. I know you disagree with the rules about how people express themselves on this site.
Then again, you did say that could not donate or even stay on a site that has these rules yet here you are posting. You also said that you were going to ignore me and report me to the admins for harrassing you. I have not initiated any conversations with you since then except for asking your opinion on a comic book hero, yet here you are initiating a conversation with me. "actually lecturing is more like it" :-)
Hey make the rules and break the rules, for you are Liberallies, The Lord of the double standard :-)
Shawn, shawn..... Buddy,
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 8:53pm.
Shawn, shawn..... Buddy, friend, pal.....really? This us your best come back to your double standard? To point out that you believe I am doing it too? What you are doing is called fallacy of authority. You were caught with your pants down and cannot get out of it, thus all you have left is to claim, "...but you do it too!" in order to discredit my points against you, you are attempting to discredit my character. whether I am using a double standard or not is irrelevant to the facts of what you did here to Jack Bauer. You love to scream freedom of expression, but do not like it when some one expressed himself in a manner that you disapprove. You have introduce a red herring to distract because we both know you screwed up. You want freedom of expression as long as you approve of the place, means, situation and person. by the way, read back to what i said, i never claimed that i was never going to post on here unsure why you need to lie.I didn't lie :-)
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:07pm.
You were upset and said it during Freestinkers post regarding asking when to ban Vietvet. All old comments have been deleted, so if you deny it, there is not no way I can prove it. It is also the same thread where you threatened to cry to management to ban me if I posted to you again. If you are lying when you deny it, I guess It is between you and God
I explained very clearly how it is an apples or oranges comparision.
Website.....Rules of posting is not profanity.
Profanity on album, has to be purchased in a store or on itunes.
If you can't tell the difference then so be it, but it does not change the fact that you will always be a beacon of light and truth and follow me around enlightening me on double standards, because your own double standards are irrelivant. Love it, Love it ;-)
Shawn, Why the need to lie?
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:44pm.
Shawn, Why the need to lie? I never said I was not going to post again, I said I was thinking about it. But I never affirmed it. NICE tactic. Introduce the benefit of the doubt on something that can never be proved or disproven. Once again you are using red herrings and the fallacy of appealing to authority to discredit the facts against you. LOL. Explain how I having a double standard, as you claim, makes your double standard any better or prove that you are not using a double standard? And what is it with your obssession with some one being a beacon of light? I have never claimed to be perfect or with out fault. You are using quite a few Liberal tactics in a desperate attempt to claim you are not wrong. Making mistakes, being human does not make my points any less or more valid. This is how my 15 year old sister debates against her older siblings, "you did it, so why do you correct me!" Childish argument. And just like it is your free will to buy pink's cd, it is you free will to read NB and posters' comments. No one is forcing you to be on NB. Society also has rules, do not use the rules argument when it suits your excuse to stiffle freedom of speech.ahhh
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:44pm.
Thank you again my friend. Its been fun as always. You never deflect questions and are always spot on with your critiques of others. As usual, the last word goes to you. Have a nice night. I am running away from your debating might. You win again!!
Nothing Is Sacred
Submitted by rammingspeed on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:14pm.
Shakespeare was an overrated c*cks*cker. IMHO
→ rammingspeed
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:53pm.
I must admit that none I had the opportunity to rate were of the male persuasion.
ROFLMAO
Ashrak, Are you serious? It
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:35pm.
Ashrak,
Are you serious? It never ceases to amaze me how people who love to scream Freedom, we have the freedom to (put here your favorite freedom, in this case freedom of speech) forget that with freedms, with our Rights come immense and huge responsabilities!!!
This is what is missing in our American culture! I constantly hear people scream, "I have the freedom of speech and the freedom to say what I want!!!" well true, until your freedom starts imposing on the freedoms of someone else!
Your freedom of speech only goes as far as where my freedoms begin!
As I was taught many years ago, I have the freedm and right to throw a punch at you, as long as that punch doesn't land on you.
Freedoms=Responsability.
But we live in an age and time where everyone is so worried about their freedoms, about their right to do as they please and wish. But no one cares about their responsability and about the fact that ALL Freedoms and ALL Rights end where the Freedoms and Rights of others begin!!
"It never ceases to amaze me
Submitted by Satchmo on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:37pm.
"It never ceases to amaze me how people who love to scream Freedom...forget that with freedms, with our Rights come immense and huge responsabilities!!!"
This is always the argument by those who wish to restrict freedom and liberty. You do not have the freedom to not hear profanity, and no one has a right to not be offended. Yes, if only we lived in an age where no one was worried about their freedoms...how easy it would be to eliminate those freedoms.
Satchmo, Nice of you to
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 2:54pm.
Satchmo,
Nice of you to jump to conclusions! LOL
I never said anyone should be restricted in their speech or freedom of spewing filth from it.
However, it is erroneous to believe that Freedoms and Rights exist in a vacuum!
My explanation was that people who scream the loudest about freedoms and rights believe that they have the Right and Freedom to do as they please and wish. This is the modern age believe of Freedom and Rights, but if you took time to read up on philosphy, religions, Founding Fathers, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc you would quickly find that truly, your Freedom and Rights end where my Freedoms and Rights begin!
So, care to point out where I said that anyone's speech should be silenced? By the way, does a person have the Freedom of Speech to scream fire in a crowded theater? Gosh that responsability that comes with your freedoms again. How dare we, right?
and I do have the freedom to not hear profanity!!! LOL Are you saying that I have to, that I must, that it is my duty to stand there while some idiots are insulting me with profanity? HAHAHA!!!!
What I do not have the freedom to do is stop someone from saying the profanity! However, I have every Right and Freedom to not hear anyone use profane language. What I can't do is stop someone from using the fowl language. LOL
if you are going to attack my stances, at least make sure you have a sound AND sane argument!
You may not have used those
Submitted by Satchmo on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 4:46pm.
You may not have used those exact words or said it directly, but that was what you were getting at. The fire in a theater ezamole is one of my favorites becuase it always shows one's ignorance. We all have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. In fact, if the theater were on fire, I would hope someone would yell "fire!" As I said, the responsibility argument is one commonly used by those who wish to restrict speech. It is the exact argument the left used in wake of the AZ shooting.Satchmo, you are kidding,
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:11pm.
Satchmo, you are kidding, rightk? i may not have used those words, but you knew where i was going with my argumentk? REALLY!! Hahaha! So now you are the thought police, eh? You can guess what is on people's mind. You assumed, your assumption was wrong and you cannot bring yourself to admit it. Saying that with Freedoms and Rights come responsabilities does not equate to wanting, wishing, or demanding anyone to be silenced. Once again point where I said that pink or anyone should be silenced? And no, I do not have the right to yell fire inside a theater if there is no fire. And if people are injured or die because I yelled fire and there was none I will face criminal charges! Thus proving the point of responsability when using speech!! I Before you call anyone ignorant, make sure you do not lie or make assumptions.Still trying to put words in peoples' mouths, I see, Satchmo
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:20pm.
Pathetic debate tactic.
Why don't you actually critique what they wrote, rather than what you THINK they're trying to get at?
You've been wrong about 98.9% of the time you've attempted to do that....and the rest of the time (even by your own admission) you are reading deficient.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
BLONDE, Amazing how Sachtmo
Submitted by Liberallies on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:15pm.
BLONDE, Amazing how Sachtmo claims to know what is in my head. He is too busy attempting to win an argument instead of exchanging thoughts and ideas like an adult. but i have read his crazy and amoral pron-incest posts, morals and logic are not his forte.Ezamole? I must have a reading comprehension problem,
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:37pm.
like the rest of the idiots around here, because I dunno WTF an ezamole is.
"FRIE! Run for your loaves!"
More lectures from an authoritarian
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:39pm.
This lecture on freedom and liberty from an authoritarian sick freak.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I suppose you despise
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 2:21pm.
I suppose you despise Chaucer, Shakespeare, etc.? Perhaps Benjamin Franklin, author of "Fart Proudly"? If you're that sensitive to the word "fuck," then I suggest you never visit Ireland, England, or Scotland.
Contradictions collapse
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:08pm.
This from a sick freak who whined about vulgarity after being justifiably called an asshole.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I gotta admit, I like the Cee
Submitted by forest on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:27am.
I gotta admit, I like the Cee Lo song, and think about it every time someone in the media implies that I'm a racist, or a congressman says I'm somehow responsible for a mass murder, or the president calls me a xenophobic gun-clinging redneck because I'm from a small town in PA, or Oprah tells me I need to be more polite to him in reponse. Forget him, and forget her too.
Cee Lo, Pink and the rest
Submitted by NVRAT on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:06am.
of, these freaks vote too. No wonder a commie like the Ob(oy)ama got elected.
The Republic can surive the Ob(oy)ama but can she suvive the multitude of fools such as these that made him their President.
Wow
Submitted by Rush to Judgement on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:12am.
The F word has been used in songs for decades. Let's face it, the word is less shocking these days, and I can't help but be reminded that if I don't like the song, I don't have to buy it and I don't have to listen to it.
If only we could dis-obscene (I'm pretty sure I just made that up) that F word.
If you don't like it, don't
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 1:50pm.
If you don't like it, don't listen. It's pretty simple.
"The world of pop music today is selling a far different message than what most parents realize."
Taking another page from the liberal playbook, Bozell shows there isn't that much difference between the two: Parents are too stupid to know what's going on, and they're too stupid to make decisions for themselves and their family.
The authoritarian sick freak
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:36pm.
Remember: freedom of speech and expression, ONLY applies to Pink, for the purposes of this thread, according to Incestmo. Nothing infuriates the authoritarian Incestmo like other people, such as Mr. Bozell, expressing their thoughts and feelings on the "art" Pink is selling. Mr. Bozell's job, like anyone else who doesn't like Pink for whatever reason, is to shut up.
Before you attack my ability to read, sick freak, you better analyze your own weaknesses first. I do not see anyplace where Mr. Bozell is calling for censorship. Nor have I ever seen Mr. Bozell call for censorship. If he were, different story. Since he is merely commenting on the music...what's the problem?
I don't like Pink because she sucks, period. In fact, this is actually a sad commentary on the music world. Take this woman, for example. She has more musical ability in her pinky tip that Pink can ever dream of having. But who gets the media attention?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
If you don't want to have
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 9:07am.
If you don't want to have your reading ability questioned, then you should stop claiming people said something that they didn't. In the last tv/music thread you claimed Dave and shawn said the author should shut up. Neither of them did and called you out on it. You then attempted to backpedal. Now here you are claiming that I said freedom of speech and expression only applies to Pink. This, despite the fact that I never once referred to her directly or indirectly. So Mr. Reading Skills, back it up: Quote me directly where I said freedom of speech and expression only applies to Pink. And yes, Mr. Bozell is one of the leading champions for censorship. You must be unfamiliar with the Parents Television Council. http://www.parentstv.org/of/Publications/releases/2005/1129.asp. (notice the "responsibility" argument again, along with the flawed anti-liberty, anti-conservative, anti-Constitutional view that the airwaves are "public") Mr. Bozell, like so many here, only pay lip service to conservativism; however, when it comes to apply those principles, they side with leftist ideology. Nothing like advocating and appealing to the force and police power of government. How conservative.Sick freak...
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 12:46pm.
Your whines of "just change the channel" and "Just don't listen to it" indicate to me that you are pissed off that anyone would dare to question Pink.
You must be unfamiliar with reading comprehension. Yet you stupidly wish to attack mine. Maybe you are the product of an incestuous relationship? Anyways, I see that your answer is no, there is nothing here where Mr. Bozell has called for censorship.
And finally, it is laughable that YOU, of ALL people, call ANYONE out on their conservative credentials. You certainly are not a conservative in any way, shape, form or fashion. The idea that government should be used to enforce societal norms, mores, and standards (such as "incest is evil") infuriates you to no end. Any conservative - or most people who aren't as sick as you are - would have no problem with the government enforcing standards that have existed for millenia. You also advocate using the government as a Big Parent; as a benevolent, loving nanny that hands out allowance money once a month to all. And once again, you would fight and die for Pink's right to freedom of speech/expression, but are clearly disgusted with Mr. Bozell DARING to comment on it; which is found in your spitting out "Just change the channel", or in the case of this thread, "Just don't listen to it", which tells me you are pissed off that anyone would dare to utter a word of criticism. If I found anything in this article where Mr. Bozell was calling for censorship, different story. If not...what the hell is the problem?
(I also explained that aspect to Dave, which clearly you refuse to read or are incapable of reading.)
Why can't you just crawl back under whatever rock you got out from under and stay there, sick freak?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
It would be comical if it
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 12:58pm.
It would be comical if it weren't so sad and pathetic.Translation
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 2:42pm.
Translation: "Damnit. Unsane kicked my ass AGAIN. Unsane truly is the man I want to be."
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Read it however you wish,
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:36pm.
Read it however you wish, since that's what you do.
Can you for once deal with your own failings?
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 5:08pm.
Says one who reads everything how he wishes and constantly attacks people for his very own failings (like reading comprehension).
If you weren't so intent on losing the argument to me, you would have faced the counter-argument like a man, instead of petulantly whining and being childishly dismissive.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I grew up believing art was a
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 7:40pm.
I grew up believing art was a way to express higher thoughts and ideals. It was a way of expression of those ideas in attempt to uplift mankind.
Our society has reduced it to the expression of the coarsest of desire and behavior. Way to go.
You were taught - or led to
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:16pm.
You were taught - or led to believe - incorrectly. There is nothing new under the sun; even prehistoric societies often expressed "the coarsest of desire and behavior" in their art. God help you if or when you ever learn how humor/comedy started.
Incestmo, guess what even prehistoric societies found abhorrent?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:22pm.
You got a lotta effing nerve doling out morality lessons here.
~POW
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:25pm.
Right in the (sister)kisser.
The word you were looking for
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:13pm.
The word you were looking for is "history", not "morality".
SatchelMouth---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:19pm.
Your grasp on history, while apparently limited, far outreaches your grasp on morality, which would be zip-nada-nothing-zero.Oh, now Incestmo is going to instruct me on my word choices
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:48am.
Abhorrent was the key word, and that's what I meant.
Virtually all mammals get it. Even a lot of invertebrates. But not you. You're more evolved than the rest of us. You must be like one of those light beings in The Abyss.
Perhaps some day we'll come to our senses and realize what we've been missing out on on.
Well inscestmo, I came to
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:25pm.
Well inscestmo, I came to that conclusion through the works of Shakespeare, Tolkein, Van Gogh, and so forth. And prehistoric culture rising above themselves would still be below what we are now, given their understanding of the world.
I don't consider all humor/comedy art, just as all art is humorous. If people like Pink didn't hold up what they do as "art", it wouldn't be quite as offensive. Instead, they spew out garbage and use the term "art" as a defense of it,
"And prehistoric culture
Submitted by Satchmo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:12pm.
"And prehistoric culture rising above themselves would still be below what we are now, given their understanding of the world."
Wow.
As for humor/comedy...I'm not talking about it as an art form; I am referring to their beginnings, their source.
Go lecture someone else, Satchmo
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:50pm.
You don't have the credibility of a flea, here.
Your "lectures" are even more boring than Obama's daily drivel.
You're not fit to lick the bottom of Rad's shoes, much less attempt to correct her.
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~Strange that you should mention
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:02am.
licking shoes...
LOL, that's a rather appropriate picture
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:13am.
Considering the target of my admonishment, LOL.
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Bru is on a role tonight!
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:25am.
Bru is on a role tonight! Lovin' her pictures.
Yes, she is
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:30am.
Bru is the master (mistress?) of finding the perfect pic on Icanhazcheeseburger for every occasion.
We frequently crack each other up with them...if you've never visited, take a gander. They have LOLcats, Dogs, fail blog, and many, many other hillarious captioned pics.
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~Rad
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:38am.
Check it out.
Bru
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:45am.
Perfect! I needed a laugh after Villanova lost to Pitt tonight.
Well incestmo, I was talking
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 12:27am.
Well incestmo, I was talking about art, not comedy. Although some comedy is a form of art. Your postings, however, are not either.
Pretty pretty please don't you ever
Submitted by kangaroo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:04pm.
Pretty pretty please don't you ever ever feel, less than, fucking perfect
You also need to watch the video of this also to get a feel of what Pink is refering to.
To me this is about being bullied, not being one of the haves, and still be able to make your way in life. To overcome.
I don't mind that she uses the f word in this song.
JMHO
"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on"--Thomas Jefferson
Kind of missing this point,
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:10pm.
Kind of missing this point, the F-bomb is utterly unnecessary. It's only there for naughty “buzz.”
Maybe that "artists" are using the F word for nothing less than to get attention, rather than because it adds a specific meaning to the song. Also mentioned was that it's more likely to get on the iPods of children when used by an artist like Pink.
By the way, I think the quote in your tag is attributed to Ben Franklin, not Jefferson.
Pink doesn't need attention.
Submitted by kangaroo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:23pm.
Pink doesn't need attention. But it will get the attention of the kids which is what the song is more directed to. She is emphasizing that no matter what goes on in your life when you are growing up, don't let it get you into a place where you don't need to be. F word or not, it's a great message
google my tag line nuff said
"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on"--Thomas Jefferson
Celebrities always need
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:29pm.
Celebrities always need attention, it's part of who they are. Message is one thing, how it's given is another.
I did google the tag line before I brought it up. Not meaning to bust on you, this is what I found. Went to link it and found it attributed to FDR. Sorry I brought it up, looks like the phrase is up for grabs.
Funny dat, but Jefferson was
Submitted by kangaroo on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:34pm.
Funny dat, but Jefferson was top of list then FDR, there are way more refs to Jefferson.
who cares good grief
"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on"--Thomas Jefferson
Sure glad I ain't posting on this thread---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:07pm.
:o)
MD
~Seriously
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:11pm.
I scanned down the thread and thought I'd somehow landed on dKos.
Kind of scary huh Bru?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:13pm.
Looks like the libs are making cultural inroads doesn't it?
~Rad
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:23pm.
You got that (!#%#(% ^#(%*$() ^*%( ^&$#(% &#@ right!
Geez.
I was resisting posting myself, but I caved as usual
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 9:23pm.
I'm weak-willed
Is there a Dr in the house?*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 10:06pm.
drsamherman should be here but here is my "unlicensed" take. People who use excessive, repetitive profanity in an aggressive manner generally shows as a symptom of "mania" as in manic-depressive disorder or Bi Polar disorder. The excessive and aggressive use of profanity is generally used as a sort of "anchor" in order to maintain contact with "reality". It has nothing to do with "art" or "culture" or high ideals. It is an effort to elicit certain responses in order for the sicko to maintain "contact" with the real world.
Yes this is a little "over the top" but so is this thread. NB brought it on themselves.
It's terrible music, sure.
Submitted by wiwf on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:01am.
It's terrible music, sure. But if you don't like, don't listen to it.
Yet another for whom freedom of speech selectively applies
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:38am.
I'll mark wiwf as yet another person who believes Mr. Bozell has no freedom of speech or expression. For the purposes of this thread, wiwf believes that Pink is the ONLY one for whom the concept of freedom of speech/expression applies. Mr. Bozell and other would-be critics are to shut up.
Can you point out to me where Mr. Bozell has called for the censorship of this dreadful music?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Hey Brent, FUCK YOU! Also,
Submitted by bazzarworld on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:38am.
Hey Brent, FUCK YOU! Also, your butthole is really brown and smelly.You are a effing
Submitted by shawn. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:41am.
Idiot.WELCOME TO HELL, PLANT!
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:46am.
Best enjoy your stay with us whilst you are able, as I suspect it will be rather brief.
-Assuming the admins here aren't out to lunch again.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
bazzar
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 1:11pm.
Are you hear to prove that the majority of libs lack the intelligence to express themselves, to prove that libs have the hate speech market cornered, or both?
Ah, Bazzarworld!
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 1:21pm.
I see that the left has dispatched their best and brightest to demonstrate the finer points of their view of the world.
One wonders, though, why this person chose to examine Brent's butthole and report on his/her findings? That's a pretty canine approach to getting to know someone, if you catch my drift.
Oh, well. I guess they're just doing what they do best...
Naughty, Naughty, Bazarro!
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:43pm.
Cursing the publisher:
ACCESS DENIED
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Access denied?
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:41am.
This calls for a song.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Ah! Unsane never disappoints
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:02pm.
Ah! Unsane never disappoints with his ability to get PT into the discussion!
agree Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:18pm.
But I think unsane picked a great one this time and the sky didnt even move sideways.
Satchmo if what you say is
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 2:02am.
Satchmo if what you say is true then why are there hate speech laws? Why can't I tell sexual jokes or make racial comments anytime or anyplace I want. You can your libtard friends demanded speech laws and you got them so shut up and sit down. I suppose you also support kiddie porn on TV.
Why are there hate speech
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 9:12am.
Why are there hate speech laws??? Seriously? To stifle freedom of speech. There is no such thing as hate speech or hate crimes. Hate speech and hate crimes = thought crimes. And you can tell sexual jokes and make racial comments anytime and anyplace you want.Really?
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 12:54pm.
What world do you live in?
Because if I told an off-color (sexual) joke, ethnic or racial joke, or a "faggot" joke in front of a roomful of co-workers, I would be fired. Because my employer would be subject to sexual harrassment charges.
Satchmo, you are clearly nuts, believing this nonsense you type here. We live in a somewhat polite society, where there are rules, both written (laws) and unwritten....and all of your "facts" exist only in your head.
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Yes, really. Even though you
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:27pm.
Yes, really. Even though you cannot differentiate from public and private (we were discussing "hate speech" laws, you see, which I don't think exist), you still have the right to say it, and it is not illegal to say it. And no, your employer would not be subject to sexual harrassment charges.You're delusional
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:28pm.
And you can tell sexual jokes and make racial comments anytime and anyplace you want.
Incestmo and his beautiful daughter.
I'll stop now, before I really tell you what I think about you, in impolite words.
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Well that's one way to dodge
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:31pm.
Well that's one way to dodge the point, I guess.You have no point
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:34pm.
All you have are your idiot notions of reality.
It's fine to f*** your adult daughter, and you won't get fired for inappropriate racial/sexual comments in the workplace.
Only in Incestmo world.
You trying to prove your "facts" is like trying to nail jello to the wall. Can't be done.
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I know, I know. It's tough
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:42pm.
I know, I know. It's tough for you to challenge or argue a point, that would require you to pay attention and use your brain intelligently, so you have to make up something out of thin air that you can defeat instead.Pot meet kettle
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:53pm.
I would point you to your "private/public" nonsense....which you introduced well into my posts, not before, yet you glommed on to that as some sort of out for your nonsense and faux facts.
My point, which you have yet to refute, is that there are written (laws) rules of conduct in the United States of America (i.e. incest and speech) and unwritten rules (mores) which have both mandatory legal consequences, and non-mandatory but pretty much guaranteed consequences.
As an example of the latter, Isaiah Washington was run out of Grey's Anatomy for calling a co-worker by a "homophobic" slur.
The only one who refuses to engage one's brain here, Incestmo, is you.
You are dismissed.
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Public/private nonsense? No.
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 2:10pm.
Public/private nonsense? No. YOU were the one who injected private workspace into a discussion about speech laws, not I. You continue to try to blur the two in a vain attempt to challenge me on something that I never claimed. Your Constitutional and civics ignorance is startling.You are beyond ignorant, stultifyingly stupid is more accurate
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 3:51pm.
There is no such thing as "private workspace". Nor private workplace. Unless you are a sole proprietor, you are either an employer or an employee.
Sexual Harrassment in the Workplace.
The same laws that prohibit gender discrimination prohibit sexual harassment. Title VII of the Civil Rights Act is the main federal law that prohibits sexual harassment. (For more information on Title VII, see Nolo's article Federal Antidiscrimination Laws.) In addition, each state has its own anti-sexual harassment law.
Inappropriate SPEECH of a sexual nature is included.
You might want to try learning how to Google. It can be your friend. It returned over 3,270,000 results.
You have no argument. You can say you disagree with THE LAW, but you cannot have your own facts, Satchmo.
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"There is no such thing as
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:05pm.
"There is no such thing as 'private workspace'. Nor private workplace. Unless you are a sole proprietor, you are either an employer or an employee." Purposefully being obtuse is another way to dodge the point, I guess. That's such a ridiculous thing to say.Being obtuse is what you do
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:06pm.
Being obtuse is what you do best. If you are an employer of someone else, you are bound by the sexual harrassment laws. If you have one employee, and make a sexually suggestive joke or comment, you can be sued for harrassment.
I take it you've never been employed or you would understand how all of this works. Try to get out of the basement and leave your daughter alone and join the real, grown up world. You might just learn something.
Anyone can sue anyone for
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:50pm.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything. That's a meaningless thing to say. There is no law against telling an off-color joke, whether it's racial, sexual, or whatever else, or saying anything offensive. That someone would take offense to it is not what is being debated.
But if you want to cast your lot in with those who can't tell the difference between public and private, and who does not know when and where Constitutionally-guaranteed rights apply, have at it. If you want to defend political correctness and its results, go right ahead. It would once again show that there many here who only pay lip service to conservativism. You would be among their ranks.
You have got to be kidding
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 8:06pm.
I find it amusing that a hateful authoritarian like you is scolding and lecturing others on conservatism. You are not by any stretch of the imagination a conservative, so you may want to save the lectures.
It would be even funnier if you weren't one of the most vile, disgusting posters NB has ever had.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Conservatism is not wing-nut libertarianism
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 8:10pm.
You fail, again.
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Read much?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 8:13pm.
Defending something isn't the same as explaining it. This might help, http://hr.blr.com/HR-topics/Discrimination/Sexual-Harassment
By the way, are you unware that laws for public companies also govern private companies?
Oh, well...I was just
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 8:55pm.
Oh, well...I was just applying a popular NB standard. Double standard, apparently.
Of course, you missed the "if", signaling a hypothetical.
In other words, you can't
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 9:10pm.
In other words, you can't defend your argument any longer.
My argument is that there are
Submitted by Satchmo on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 2:10pm.
My argument is that there are no "hate speech laws" in the United States (and there aren't); one can say what one wants, where one wants. Speech is not illegal.
Blonde has tried to change the subject by confusing public and private. It is not illegal to tell an off-color joke. That a person would find offense at a joke and discern malice does not mean there was an attempt to harm, intimidate, etc. So that person could sue, yes, but that doesn't mean a judgment will be found in their favor, nor does it make speech illegal. Sexual harrassment does not fall under any "hate speech" rubric.
Satchmo,
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 2:22pm.
I could be wrong but the closest we have to an actual law against hate speech is the fact that hate speech is recognizable evidence in a hate crime.
Kind of like what they were trying to do Arizona - if you were arrested for committing a crime then the illegal actions of crossing the border could be used against you.
Unfortunately what we end up with in hate speech is - if you are arrested for committing a crime then legal actions can be held against you.
Our judicial system is still one of the best but that just scares me sometimes.
~There ya go
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:07pm.
Shuffle off sideways acting like no one can grasp your brilliance.
See, if you pretend you didn't just get OWNED then we can't see it on our screens.
New Bravo reality series: "Incestmo Meets Meatspace"
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:20pm.
Follow our quirky protagonist Incestmo around the quaint town of Ezamole as he gets his ass kicked on a daily basis.
This week: the hapless Incestmo pays another visit to the emergency room for 30 stitches. While being sewn up, he verbally insults the Indian-born female internist and requires another 12 stitches.
Meat Space
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:26pm.
You have to give The Vet props for that one, I laugh every time I read it.
Do you even believe the latest nonsense? You can say whatever you want in the workplace, you know, any little racist, sexist, sexual tripe that comes to mind, whenever, with no consequences. Just wow, who knew?
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I never said there wouldn't
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:30pm.
I never said there wouldn't be any consequences in a private workplace (we were discussing the public arena). I said that speech isn't illegal, and that you can say what you want, where you want.It's not cool to contradict yourself in the space of 4 posts
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:31pm.
you still have the right to say it, and it is not illegal to say it. And no, your employer would not be subject to sexual harrassment charges.
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I could almost say the first
Submitted by Satchmo on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:35pm.
I could almost say the first time you didn't know the difference between public and private was due to your not reading closely; but to continue to do it after it was brought to your attention...Public/shmublic
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:38pm.
Jello, meet wall.
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How is it EVERYONE here has a reading comprehension problem?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 1:44pm.
Did it ever occur to you maybe it's your idiotic posts?
Nah...
Writing
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 2:50pm.
Maybe you should work very carefully on your writing skills and write clearly.
But no. Incestmo finds it much easier to childishly attack every member of the human race for having bad reading comprehension.
I think he is a closet Leftist who has a problem with a concept called "personal responsibility".
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
~Remember, people
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 4:00pm.
Pervmo says he's not a liberal. You gonna believe him, or your lying eyes?
Imagine this:
Submitted by Unsane on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 8:08pm.
You know what would be fun?
Watching Incestmo get into a confrontation with law enforcement, for ANY reason.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)