Heck of a job, kid. ABC's Charles Gibson on Thursday night showcased what he described as “an interesting” question President Barack Obama got from “a fourth grader” during a friendly town hall session in New Orleans: “Why people hate you, and why? They're supposed to love you.” Viewers were treated to a lengthy soundbite of Obama's appreciative response:
That's what I'm talking about! Well, now, first of all, I did get elected President, so not everybody hates me. You know what is true is, if you were watching TV lately, it seems like everybody's just getting mad all the time. And I, you know, I think that you've got to take it with a grain of salt. Some of it is just what's called politics. And so you just got to keep on going, even when folks are criticizing me, because, as long as you know that you're doing it for other people. All right? So, thank you, you're a fine young man.
From the Thursday, October 15 World News on ABC:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓CHARLES GIBSON: President Obama went to New Orleans today, where he tried to reassure residents that the government is committed to helping them rebuild the city. It was his first visit to New Orleans since taking office. Some local residents criticized him for spending only four hours there. After he spoke in New Orleans, he took questions, and got an interesting one from a fourth grader.
TERRENCE SCOTT, KID: Why people hate you, and why? They're supposed to love you, and god is love and-
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: That's what I'm talking about! Well, now, first of all, I did get elected President, so not everybody hates me. You know what is true is, if you were watching TV lately, it seems like everybody's just getting mad all the time. And I, you know, I think that you've got to take it with a grain of salt. Some of it is just what's called politics. And so you just got to keep on going, even when folks are criticizing me, because, as long as you know that you're doing it for other people. All right? So, thank you, you're a fine young man.
GIBSON: The President in New Orleans today.
—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center
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Hey! I got an idea!!!
October 16, 2009 - 09:29 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonWhy not indoctrinate the children into believing barry really is the second coming and should be loved and worshipped?
All hail to bury...
So much for the separation of church and state argument......
http://gjresult.com
Hitler used children,
October 16, 2009 - 09:32 ET by mattmHitler used children, too.
So did Stalin.
All politicians do.
October 16, 2009 - 09:39 ET by ThatDudeAll politicians do. Shaking hands and kissing babies is kinda the norm. Some take it a little far, but I'd say pretty much all politicians do it to an extent. The only problem I have is how much things are set up here. That they use kids to pose these softball questions is only part of the problem. The fact that they get away with setting up such silly scenarios is really the bigger issue.
Yes, but usually during an
October 16, 2009 - 09:50 ET by mattmYes, but usually during an election campaign - not part of an ongoing policy of propaganda and manipulation.
Well that's probably
October 16, 2009 - 10:01 ET by vrwc13Well that's probably because he qualifies as a politician, and possibly as 'head of state' but fails as president...
v
...an error was made in 2008
Can you spell " P L A N T "
October 16, 2009 - 10:31 ET by kgCan you spell " P L A N T " ? Everyone who asks Obama a question is pre-screened and selected for their question. If they do not get questions they are looking for they bus in the people. Is is funny a small child would think people hate Obama. That is unless she was fed that information. Of course the media falls for this kind of rhetoric 'hook, line, and sinker'.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
potted plants
October 16, 2009 - 11:24 ET by jon_torlinSheesh, these jokers have more 'hidden' plants than a pothead.
-Jon
This kid
October 16, 2009 - 09:44 ET by Tugboat Philneeds to be fitted for a brown shirt....NOW! How proud his parents will be when he turns them in for using 100 watt incandescent bulbs.
Gun Control - The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
Now that was spontaneous as
October 16, 2009 - 09:33 ET by samhermanmdNow that was spontaneous as a UN meeting.
Grammar Check
October 16, 2009 - 09:34 ET by ScottyKUtahYou would think that if they are going to plant the question before hand, to at least spell and grammar check the questions.
"Why DO people hate you, and why?"
But I digress. Public School Education on display there.
But I digress. Public School Education on display there.
October 16, 2009 - 09:41 ET by vrwc13...na, kid was probaby humskuled.
v
...an error was made in 2008
Good morning 13
October 16, 2009 - 09:49 ET by cocodrieU beez rong 13. Dat queschun wuz ritten by hiz teechshur.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Good morning Scotty
October 16, 2009 - 09:44 ET by cocodrieThat is proper english in New Orleans. Ah nose cuz ah beez livvin hear.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I'll take a verb for $20
October 16, 2009 - 11:29 ET by tim413This is typical for urban middle schools. And the teachers who know how to correct grammar do not have the time to do it because they have to spend too much time dealing with the trouble makers. Our student test scores will not improve until we start leaving some "childs" behind. This national problem is one I was thinking about when I crafted my signature, below.
And another thing. Where did he learn that "people supposed to love you (the President)"? Probabaly from the adults in his home when George W. Bush was president.
Stop federal judges from foisting their notions of "fairness" on the States. Amend the 14th Amendment! - tim413
I'll take a verb for $20
October 16, 2009 - 11:29 ET by tim413This is typical for urban middle schools. And the teachers who know how to correct grammar do not have the time to do it because they have to spend too much time dealing with the trouble makers. Our student test scores will not improve until we start leaving some "childs" behind. This national problem is one I was thinking about when I crafted my signature, below.
And another thing. Where did he learn that "people supposed to love you (the President)"? Probabaly from the adults in his home when George W. Bush was president.
Stop federal judges from foisting their notions of "fairness" on the States. Amend the 14th Amendment! - tim413
Why do people hate you?
October 16, 2009 - 09:37 ET by Tom in NCBecause:
You hate the United States.
You are a bold faced liar.
You are trying to socialize our country.
You are a radical leftist.
You are a racist.
You socialize with a racist preacher.
You started your political career in the home of a domestic terrorist.
9.8% unemployment.
We have record deficits and debt.
Your out of control spending.
Corruption in your administration.
Weakening of our military.
Cowardice to fight and win the war in Afghanistan.
Sucking up to our enemies.
Apologizing for our country's greatness.
You are the worst president in this country's 233 year history.
Yeah, that about covers it
Tom....Couldn't say it
October 16, 2009 - 09:44 ET by celatorTom....Couldn't say it better. You'd think his international and financial handlers would have vetted their puppet president much more carefully before paving his way to the White House.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
...you forgot abortion... 810,000 on his watch s far...
October 16, 2009 - 09:53 ET by vrwc13...and that's why I cannot even accept a dinner invitaton from him...
11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you." 1 Corinthians 5
...or even associate with him, who calls himself a Christain...
15"If your brother sins against you,[a] go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.'[b] 17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. Matthew 18:15-20
...so TERRENCE SCOTT (who continued "They're supposed to love you, and god is love and-") if your momma taught you to love Jesus, you must do the same!
v
...an error was made in 2008
render unto obama what is
October 16, 2009 - 12:01 ET by TruthMongerrender unto obama what is his - in this case a ton of sht
doesn't quite cover it!!
October 16, 2009 - 11:18 ET by Patriot IIYou left off a few....like hoaxer, phony, liar, alien, muslim, America hater....Israel hater...muslim lover.....socialist, communist....african born do nothing...there, thats a few more....others can add to the list!!
The kid's response to
October 16, 2009 - 09:38 ET by HockeyKidThe kid's response to Uhbama's answer:
"Oh. I thought it was because you're spending like a drunken sailor and driving America toward socialism."
Now THAT would've been something to watch.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Barry's answer
October 16, 2009 - 09:57 ET by Calypso Jonesdidn't make that much more sense anyway.
But... ♪♫He Was Goin' to San Francisco ♫♪
October 16, 2009 - 10:02 ET by BondPlainBondVideo Clip (2:18)
Contrived? Set-up? Rehearsed? I dunno.
The Obama Administration already has the reputation of setting up false public situations to further Obama's failing policies. If this brief conversation about love, hate, Obama, and God was, it was so Obama could take yet another opportunity to publicly lower himself to the level of a juvenile bully, to bash Fox News. Even when only intimated, everyone knows who and what Obama (or any member of his Administration) is talking about.
The young man's mention of God, Obama, and love in the same sentence was a little hinkey, the left's well-known obsession with, and numerous references to Obama as their Messiah is, sometimes, too much.
What was scrumptiously delicious was Joe Scarborough ripping Obama a few new orifices this morning right off the bat at the top of the show. Called Obama "pathetic" over and over again. Scarborough was disgusted with Obama's footloose and fancy-free attitude regarding his first New Orleans visit as President and how poorly and indignantly Obama handled the one and only question asked at that town hall that was about Katrina. A woman asked for an immediate $300 million check so New Orleans, five years after Katrina, could have one functioning hospital. Obama said that was an impossiblity. He can't write checks. Has to go through Congress as a bill, etc, etc. etc. Scarborough went bluddy ballistic!
An hour on the ground in New Orleans and then off to a San Francisco DNC fund-raiser that was $34K a couple.
Obama's priorities are rather screwed up, aren't they?
You Lie!
October 16, 2009 - 10:05 ET by vrwc13...again...
"...even when folks are criticizing me, because, as long as you know that you're doing it for other people."
v
...an error was made in 2008
Wh
October 16, 2009 - 10:05 ET by jessieHWhat, no white coat for the kid? Just another photo op. How low will obama go to keep the lies going? I don't hate the idiot, I just think he is a corrupt man. A Soros puppet.
RAHM 19:14 But the
October 16, 2009 - 10:11 ET by MidAmericaRAHM 19:14 But the Obamassiah said, Suffer the little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for to such belongeth the heaven of my kingdom.
RAHM 18:3 Obamessiah said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter into my kingdom.
That's what I'm talking about!
October 16, 2009 - 10:14 ET by CobraMan"Why people hate you, and why? They're supposed to love you, and god is love and-"
"That's what I'm talking about!"
My God, can this man be any more narcissistic?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
a clinical case.
October 16, 2009 - 10:25 ET by buddyca clinical case.
Hey Kid, did you ask that
October 16, 2009 - 10:25 ET by buddycHey Kid, did you ask that question about President Bush when Obama insulted and attacked him. Maybe kid the people who hate Obama learned how to hate from the example of democrats over the last 8 years.
Hey kid, there is a quote in the bibe about those who sow discontent reap a whirlwind. Obama is a sower of discontent. He created his own personal whirlwind.
“Why people hate you ..."
October 16, 2009 - 10:30 ET by Crash"Let me make this clear you little butter ball ... I hate fat people, American exceptionalism, rich folks, and whites who didn't vote for me."
"...not to big on that God
October 16, 2009 - 13:00 ET by UndercoverConservative"...not to big on that God guy either, since that Allah has scarier followers that are sending me more money and more intimidation power!"
WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)
Transparency
October 16, 2009 - 16:07 ET by CrashAll I care about is that people have the right to practice which ever religion, or in my case none, they should soever choose. What troubles me about Obama is that he doesn't strike me as truthful, nor forthcoming, on any one issue. Rep. Wilson was spot on ... Obama lies.
I don't care the Question......
October 16, 2009 - 10:53 ET by TexndocI don't care the Answer. Calling on "kids" at a town hall is BS. Why doesn't the little scamp show us his last year's tax return.
If this "calling on children" is all the rage, put some 8 or 9 year old in the White House press corps, sitting next to Helen Thomas.
"Why people hate you" ah, a
October 16, 2009 - 10:58 ET by Tomorama"Why people hate you" ah, a fine product of our unionized education system......
Do you think Chucky would have shown the video if the "yout" asked "why are you mortgaging my future by spending trillions of dollars that we don't have"?
Chucky would have his glasses on the end of his nose in that "mocking school teacher mode", but it was a way to push the agenda right Chucky?
I saw some rose petals near this kids shoes, ya, he is a plant.
A great man once said, YOU only get out of life what YOU put into it, he obviously wasn't a liberal.
Just another campaign stop
October 16, 2009 - 11:07 ET by SickofLibsMan, Dumbo really had the fake Homey dialect cranked up WAY past the unlistenable level. He should take some lessons from his Secretary of State - even she was more believable (as in 1 on a scale of 1-10).
And is it possible for him to EVER speak without the "Adoring Tapestry of Americans" crap in the background? It's so un-presidential.
typical non-response!!
October 16, 2009 - 11:20 ET by Patriot IIWhat a pitiful excuse of an answer to a legitimate question.....this clown is a joke!!!
Bush was also elected but
October 16, 2009 - 11:35 ET by Sonia HBush was also elected but half the country had/has no problem hating him.
Hate is such a strong word- I prefer totally disagree and dislike, :)
Sonia in Las Vegas
Ah, I get it now
October 16, 2009 - 11:50 ET by StarAZI am sure the kid was a plant. Heh. I liked how the guy asked why hadn't his admin done anything much diff on helping NO, and he said, "Ha, ha...well, the constitution, you know.." something like that. I am sorry--utter tripe.
Brent Baker - Way to leave
October 16, 2009 - 12:09 ET by LeondeuxBrent Baker - Way to leave the end (and key part) of the boy's question out of the body of your article AND your headline.
The FULL and ACCURATE quote is "Why people hate you, and why? They're supposed to love you, and god is love"
Changes the entire meeting of the question from being HOW could people not love you b/c you're Obama TO how could people not love you when God teaches us to love all.
Nice parsing.
Leondouche
October 16, 2009 - 12:37 ET by Tom in NCThe quote IS IN the body of the article if you would bother to read it, but typical of a liberal you find it easier to insult the author rather than get the facts.
Oh Tom I know. At the very
October 16, 2009 - 13:42 ET by LeondeuxOh Tom I know. At the very end. Not in the part of the article that he wrote OR the headline. Coincidence? I think not. Most certainly intentional omission to lend creedence to his article.
day off Leon?
October 16, 2009 - 13:49 ET by katainkentyou're on a troll today.
Oh yeah. What's your
October 16, 2009 - 13:50 ET by LeondeuxOh yeah. What's your excuse?
lol
October 16, 2009 - 13:54 ET by katainkentI start work at 3am and I am on the west coast. Sufficient "excuse" for you?
Kat, it's all in the wording and punctuation.
October 16, 2009 - 14:15 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnsonnever mind. It's too easy sometimes.....
http://gjresult.com
They're supposed to love
October 16, 2009 - 17:44 ET by Radical1979They're supposed to love you, and god is love"
Is this kid saying Obama is God?
And slightly off topic, why can't this guy stay in the White House? He's leaving one hell of a carbon footprint.
The key what?
October 16, 2009 - 19:27 ET by CobraMan"Brent Baker - Way to leave the end (and key part) of the boy's question out of the body of your article AND your headline."
The key what?
"Why do people hate you?" was the key question. It was also the only question. "They're supposed to love you" and "god is love" are statements, not questions.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
I thought everyone loved Obama
October 16, 2009 - 12:11 ET by katainkentsomeone put this child back in re-education camp and get some black SUVs over to his house to see if their television is tuned to FOX news..
Seriously... this is the least subtle gardening I've seen since Michelle planted beans and carrots in her 500 dollar boots.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
This is all a terrible
October 16, 2009 - 12:27 ET by stratmanThis is all a terrible mistake.
The child thought he was talking to ex-XFL Las Vegas Outlaws player Rod Smart. (Not photoshopped)
PUUUUUUULANT!!!!
October 16, 2009 - 12:32 ET by theduck6Plant Plant Plant
Plant Plant Plant
Plant Plant Plant
Plant Plant Plant
Plant Plant Plant
Plant Plant Plant
Plant Plant Plant
Hey Hillary got away with it in her primary "listening" (plant) tours.
It's not like any of the frothing (plant) sycophant media is going to "fact check" this. I just wonder (plant) if the WH supplies the kneepads or are they expected to supply their own. Is that a legit tax deduction?.....plant!
ok, plants talk?
October 16, 2009 - 14:18 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonI mean for years there has been stories of house plants responding well to soft music, and being talked to up close and personal by the caretaker.
BUT, the plants that grow roots in potting soil produce much nicer smelling blossoms than the fools that raised that blooming idiot of a plant.
http://gjresult.com
who's a photoshop expert here?
October 16, 2009 - 12:57 ET by UndercoverConservativewe could photoshop in Kanye West in for Big O.."Ima let ya finish, but that was the best question of all time..OF ALL TIME!"
Now that I think of it, with a little work there's an SNL skit right there, but they don't have the testicular fortitude to run such a thing...restage this scene between O and the Seedling Plant and have Kanye rush in with a "but Clinton was the best president/had the lowest deficit of ALL TIME"-type responses.
or, have the kid haul off and punch the Prez in the happysac, saying "thanks for the deficit *I* gotta pay and the Social Scurity I'm *never* gonna see!"
WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)
Photoshop expert?
October 16, 2009 - 15:36 ET by RukusThat would be BKeyser. Great stuff! : )
Gary
POLITICS: poly (many) + ticks (blood sucking parasites)
Did you see that...
October 16, 2009 - 13:12 ET by jezebelleI think he slipped the kid a $20.
Another cheap negro
October 16, 2009 - 17:07 ET by George S PattonAnother cheap negro victimization stunt. Obama isn't worth the pig sh!t on the bottom of a half-a$$ed farmer's boots.
clean up on aisle five
October 16, 2009 - 17:35 ET by katainkentplease.
OK kata...
October 16, 2009 - 18:22 ET by RukusDelete due to further review of comment. I read too fast! Sigh. : (
Gary
POLITICS: poly (many) + ticks (blood sucking parasites)
kata...
October 16, 2009 - 18:03 ET by JerCan you or someone please explain to me why a lib gets banned for making a silly claim about Global Warming and this garbage doesn't even draw a warning?
Jer
I agree Jer
October 16, 2009 - 18:16 ET by RukusDisgusting is disgusting. That post was nasty. We are better than that. Thank you. : )
Gary
POLITICS: poly (many) + ticks (blood sucking parasites)
How do you know George is
October 16, 2009 - 18:36 ET by MightyMouthHow do you know George is not a lib?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Good point, MM...
October 16, 2009 - 18:45 ET by JerI had forgotten the "murdering thug" rule: no matter what you may think you are, if you say/do something really, really bad, you're automatically a lib.
Jer
Although that is true..
October 16, 2009 - 18:50 ET by MightyMouthWe have had lib posters drop by and flame the left until they get banned pretending to be a conservative. Lib minions can be pretty deceptive at times... just sayin...
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Hmmm...you know I strongly
October 16, 2009 - 19:09 ET by JerHmmm...you know I strongly suspect MrShy may very well fit that profile. He should be closely monitored. ;-)
Jer
I can vouch for MrShy... he's a good egg!
October 16, 2009 - 19:13 ET by MightyMouth"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM & PJ
October 16, 2009 - 19:20 ET by MrShyOkay guys, I'm off NB for the evening... DKos convention downtown here in NYC tonight and I ...... wait...... ($#&$@!!)
EDIT: Actually, I'm off to celebrate my first day of being in my mid-40's, with a nice gal in her late-40's. I am now officially part of the geezer crowd.
Hey MrS... Have a very
October 16, 2009 - 19:33 ET by bigtimerHey MrS...
Have a very good time!
Is it your B-Day today?
If so....Happy, Happy Birthday and many more.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
-
October 17, 2009 - 16:31 ET by Jerposted at wrong location
Happy Birthday, MrShy
October 16, 2009 - 20:48 ET by R D HelmLOL-From one geezer to another.
-Dave
→ Happy birthday old man
October 16, 2009 - 20:53 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe she'll get lucky.
An egg you say?
October 16, 2009 - 19:22 ET by JerSo that's why his brain is scrambled. Sorry, Shy, it was just a yolk.
Jer
You're killing yourself tonight Jer!
October 16, 2009 - 19:36 ET by MightyMouth"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Jer
October 16, 2009 - 20:00 ET by katainkentI have no affiliation with this board other than commenting on it. If you really have a question I am sure the masthead can answer it.
kata...
October 16, 2009 - 20:22 ET by JerI wasn't seeking an official ruling, merely your opinion inasmuch as you--and possibly Rukus--were the only one(s) who had commented at the time.
Jer
Was he banned for making a
October 16, 2009 - 20:37 ET by ckc1227Was he banned for making a silly comment, or was he banned for making one too many silly comments backed by a history of making silly comments?
*shrug*
October 16, 2009 - 20:50 ET by katainkentnear as I can tell uh.... long term non content added trollage.
I personally found him entertaining (though he occasionally let his slip show) right up to the point where he started psycho-rambling Mao Tse-Tung as some kind of split personality? Then he kinda left a bad taste. I think his evil twin is still here somewhere.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
kata
October 16, 2009 - 18:15 ET by MrShyI was going to say something about that, too. Also, in answer to Jer, that was because "that person" (forgetting the name), just like PoopDeck and his never-ending Palin links, was being repetitious with his/her posts, as I recall, and that's troll-ish.
There actually WAS a ban that took place here recently that I thought was, well, premature.
Shy... Who was that as I
October 16, 2009 - 18:50 ET by bigtimerShy...
Who was that as I haven't been here that much?
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
I think they ban
October 16, 2009 - 19:07 ET by general companySterling yesterday, not sure why?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc & bt
October 16, 2009 - 19:09 ET by MrShyYeah, Sterling... Sure, a liberal idiot and had opinions about Mao, but was he trolling and not letting it go? It happened rather quickly.
He didnt
October 16, 2009 - 19:12 ET by general companyBother me, now 007 calling everyone racist. Well I have to admit, that chapped me
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
bc
October 16, 2009 - 19:30 ET by MrShyBut we ARE racists....
We have actual concerns (not faux ones) about the plight of blacks and many minorities in this country. That, by definition (because of the political party we espouse), makes us racists.
shy
October 16, 2009 - 20:09 ET by katainkentall I cared about was the language. The sentiment, I agreed with.
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
Hi kata... Same here
October 16, 2009 - 20:14 ET by bigtimerHi kata...
Same here regarding sentiment...language was cleaned up.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Pretty sad, bt.
October 17, 2009 - 16:37 ET by JerAnother cheap negro victimization stunt. Obama isn't worth the pig sh!t on the bottom of a half-a$$ed farmer's boots.
In other words, as long as the "i" is replaced with "!" and "ss" replaced with "$$", Patton's post is A-OK.
Pretty sad, bt.
Jer
Jer
October 17, 2009 - 16:40 ET by MrShyI think we're all agreeing (BT included) that he didn't have to use that language, even with the signs in place of the letters.
Thanks, Shy... I'm glad
October 17, 2009 - 16:45 ET by JerThanks, Shy...
I'm glad to hear that from you, and I hope you're right about bt. But I'm not so sure bt finds anything about the post objectionable it its present "cleaned-up" form. Maybe she'll clarify.
Jer
BTW...Happy b/d [if that is what you meant by your mid-40s post last night.]
Jer
October 17, 2009 - 16:50 ET by MrShyI'm sure she meant "IF" language was cleaned up... what else would it have meant?
Thanks, yeah, b-day yesterday... all of 44.
Shy...
October 17, 2009 - 17:07 ET by JerBecause in the original identically-worded post, Patton said "pig shit" and "half-assed". He then modified it only to use ! and $. bt had indicated that the only problem she had with the original post was not with the sentiment but with the language and the language had now been "cleaned up". So its unclear at best as to what she thinks about it in its current form.
What if a George Bush hater came here after Bush had reached out to the black community (or some similar act) and posted:
Just a cheap white-man's stunt. Bush is pig sh!t on a half-a$$ed farmer's boots.
How long do you think it would take for that poster's account to be closed permanently?
Jer
Jer
October 17, 2009 - 17:24 ET by MrShyOooh, didn't notice that (and subconsciously was thinking, hmm, didn't he write out the actual words, originally?...)
No, I would agree that we don't need language on that abrasive a scale, "$!" or no "$!", and even that other word for blacks I can do without.
Shy...
October 17, 2009 - 19:01 ET by JerYes, he did spell the words out originally, and since his post was responded to, Patton couldn't have edited it himself--which means a moderator did. Which begs the question: If an NB mod reviewed that comment, why wasn't the entire post deleted?
Jer
Ditto that kata.
October 17, 2009 - 07:35 ET by RukusGary
POLITICS: poly (many) + ticks (blood sucking parasites)
I smell a plant...and not
October 16, 2009 - 17:09 ET by Kat Outta the BagI smell a plant...and not the kind that grows out of the ground, either.
plants
October 16, 2009 - 18:28 ET by cajun2Yes, trolls can be found in a variety of genuses. Still a member of troll species in general. Unpleasant.
Sorry all you weak-kneed
October 16, 2009 - 19:15 ET by George S PattonSorry all you weak-kneed groveling obama appeasers hiding behind the guise of moderation. Obama is useless, I stand by my remarks. Unlike most of you I do not suffer from PC or white guilt.
George... I've never
October 16, 2009 - 19:25 ET by bigtimerGeorge...
I've never thought you were a troll..or a plant in all the time I've seen you here, and that's been quite awhile.
You just state your opinions as you see them.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Except that a lib
October 16, 2009 - 19:35 ET by JerExcept that a lib expressing an opinion nowhere near as offensive would be booted from here in a New York second and you know it. But I'm sure Mr. Patton welcomes your endorsement, bt.
Jer
Oh puhleeze jer... All I
October 16, 2009 - 19:39 ET by bigtimerOh puhleeze jer...
All I was saying is I've seen his posts before over the years...and he isn't a plant/troll.
Got it.
Heck...you're still here.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
Well hey howdy this, bt...
October 16, 2009 - 19:47 ET by JerI think you're a plant, having recently completed your fourth year of a five-year assignment at the behest of Soros, after which you will infiltrate HotAir. I'm right aren't I? I knew it.
Jer
Here today, gone tomorrow, back on Wednesday.
October 16, 2009 - 19:52 ET by CobraManJer, I'd step very lively over the "ban/don't ban" minefield if I were you. I do remember your thread telling everyone you were leaving. Now you're back. if we were to hold you to our principles, we'd ban YOU from returning.
You said you were leaving, for good. Now you're back (not that it matters, and I welcome you back). But to complain about NB not abiding by principles when you ignore your own is rather hypocritical, don't you think?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
CobraMan...
October 16, 2009 - 20:14 ET by JerYep, I'll admit to some unintended hypocrisy--although I didn't realize such was a violation of terms of use.
I was very reluctant to return, but several members whom I like and respect a great deal persuaded me to do so. Their assurances I would be widely welcomed back turned out to be slightly exaggerated to say the least. And I started to just throw in the towel for good. But I decided, what the heck, why let the antagonists run me off... but it did mean some compromise of principles since I had indicated otherwise.
So we'll see how it goes. When and if it completely ceases to be fun or fulfilling, I'll check out.
Jer
By the way, I'm not big on banning. But I thought Patton's post merited some sort of rebuke, which you handled very well.
Violation of what?
October 16, 2009 - 20:25 ET by CobraManA violation of what, Jer?
Jer, I was pointing out your hypocrisy, plain and simple. I understand that it was unintentional, which is why I pointed it out.. So what does that have to do with your "although I didn't realize such was a violation of terms of use" statement?
I could insert something like "typical Liberal, has to turn constructive criticism into a personal attack" but I won't do that. Heh.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Whether or not I have been
October 17, 2009 - 16:22 ET by JerWhether or not I have been hypocritcal is a separate question from a violation of NB terms of use. The content of Patton's post, on the other hand, brings the issue directly into play. As I said, I'm not a fan of banning, and I realize conservatives are granted a little more latitude here than liberals, but it did seem odd that Sterling was zapped--apparently without warning--for, well, I really cant't tell [can you?] while Patton, it seems, can post a blatantly offensive post with impunity.
Finally, why are you even hinting I turned constructive criticism into a personal attack? I AGREED with you that I might be justifiably accused of hypocrisy and merely explained the reasoning behind my actions. I didn't consider your post to be a personal attack at all.
Jer
Funny... funny Jer.
October 16, 2009 - 19:52 ET by bigtimerFunny... funny Jer. ;-)
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
You know I'm just kidding
October 16, 2009 - 19:58 ET by JerYou know I'm just kidding around with you, don't you bt?...even though I didn't put one of those little ;-) doodads at the end.
And that's the last word.
Jer
You do suffer....
October 16, 2009 - 19:47 ET by CobraMan"Unlike most of you I do not suffer from PC or white guilt."
But you do suffer from diarrhea of the mouth.
BTW, your remarks are nothing more than childish rantings. I've heard my 12 year old son make better arguments than the ones you use. He understands that what we say in public tells people about how we act in private. Apparently, you haven't figured that out yet.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Cobraman, Apparently you
October 16, 2009 - 23:17 ET by George S PattonCobraman, Apparently you haven't figured out that everyone is entitled to an opinion whether you concur with it or not. As I said you are nothing but an appeasement moderate.
I like this guy, just keep the four letter words down (a bit)
October 16, 2009 - 23:24 ET by MightyMouth"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
I'd loooooove to see (and
October 16, 2009 - 20:41 ET by RR GOPI'd loooooove to see (and fervently pray to Jesus) Chariman Obamao impeached one of these days for being a Commie SOB who's trying to destroy the Republic.
Does that count?
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Forgot something?
October 16, 2009 - 22:21 ET by Vivaldi5What happened to the bit attributing such things to people clinging to guns or religion?