CBS: Obama's Success at Undoing Bush Policies Key to Crippling Terrorists

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President Obama's popularity amongst Muslims pegged to success at “pulling out of Iraq,” “ending torture” and “closing Guantanamo Bay,” are key to the chances of ending terrorism CBS reporter Lara Logan contended Wednesday night. She concluded her preview of Obama's Thursday speech in Cairo: “Terrorists who are threatened by Obama's popularity amongst Muslims do not want America's President to succeed.”

She earlier defined that “success” as:

The Arab world expects a lot of this President. From pulling out of Iraq, to ending torture, to closing Guantanamo Bay. Failure to achieve all this could be disastrous for Obama. But even worse, if he wasn't trying to reach out to Muslims.

Logan then ran a soundbite of Egyptian Prime Minister Ahmed Nazif: “I think it would be catastrophic. We have been in a downturn for so long. We're creating beds for terrorism to flourish.” Logan prompted him to agree disaster is ahead if Obama's change from Bush policy does not occur: “Creating beds for terrorism to flourish?” Nazif: “That's true.”

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From the second half of the story on the Wednesday, June 3 CBS Evening News:

LARA LOGAN: Iran's ambitions for regional power may trouble Arab governments but what they're looking for more than anything else is changes in the U.S./Israeli relationship. President Obama said recently than that an Arab/Israeli peace would facilitate and precede a solution to the problem of Iran, showing that he's all too awe are of the priorities on the Arab street. Or, one Arab commentator put it, the sole bridge to reconciliation is a Palestinian state. The Arab world expects a lot of this President. From pulling out of Iraq, to ending torture, to closing Guantanamo Bay. Failure to achieve all this could be disastrous for Obama. But even worse, if he wasn't trying to reach out to Muslims.

AHMED NAZIF, EGYPTIAN PRIME MINISTER: I think it would be catastrophic. We have been in a downturn for so long. We're creating beds for terrorism to flourish.

LOGAN: Creating beds for terrorism to flourish?

NAZIF: That's true.

LOGAN: Terrorists who are threatened by Obama's popularity amongst Muslims do not want America's President to succeed. Lara Logan, CBS News, Cairo.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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Where have we gotten to, where cutie pie infobabe news readers try make policy and interpret and influence others to speak what they would like to hear.  This is a perfect example of someone who views the world as they would like it to be vs. as it really is.

Radical Islam, wants death to America - pure and simple, and they are not going away based on what infobabes and Obama says.

"if liberals didn't live it, it doesn't exist." 

 

It's a perfect example of

It's a perfect example of insanity. 

What are you talking about....

picker....

Just look at the determination on that face in the picture.  With a look of determination like that it has to come true, it just will. 

Muslim terrorists are clapping and smiling with glee as we continue to outlaw waterboarding. Because just think right before they behead another soldier, or rape a female one, they can look at them and say "At least we don't waterboard like you savages." 

Sad.

 

"You see Obama is going to tax those not payin taxes...those making
over 97,000 dollars ayear. Once you make that much you don't pay
taxes...he's going to make them pay. And I will finally get a break." -My mom who is on welfare and foodst

Right.  The Arab world

Right.  The Arab world expects a lot from this President.

I wonder how far he will go in giving it to them.

He's already started pulling back from Israel...not a good sign.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Obama Bin Laden

Well, Hell.. you had that guy from Newsweek saying the other day that Bin Laden is a 'has been'. 

As Rush said, Obama is the titular head of the Muslim world.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Throwing Israel under the bus

I expect to see Israeli military action against Iran within months now.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

So, were it not for the U.S.

So, were it not for the U.S. aggressively defending the world against terrorists, killing them on their home court, and locking them up like the mangy dogs they are for the last eight years...we would not have terrorists?

Lara's brilliance and insight on terrorists absolutely gives me goosebumps. Bravo sweetie!

Bush and Cheney

Bush and Cheney brought our kid prez down to the one yard line - and he gets to run it in for the touchdown - and receive all the glory and credit 

Palin/Prejean 2012

State owned media reporterette

Lara, George Bush had done nothing to these "innocent terrorists"  prior to them killing or injuring more then 14,000 people on 9/11. Clinton allowed them to get away with murdering Americans for 8 years which only encouraged them.

“ending torture” - 3 terrorists were dipped in water while they were responsible for wounding or killings 10's of thousands of people.That waterboarding probably saved another skyscraper full of people from being murdered in Los Angeles and elsewhere!

“pulling out of Iraq,” - something that those 2 guys you slept with in Iraq should have done sooner (Lara got knocked up).

Even O'Reilly--who shortly

Even O'Reilly--who shortly after 9/11 commenced months of relentlessly scolding Clinton claiming he was soley to blame for the attacks--finally accepted the irrefutable fact that both administrations bore responsibility.

Jer

WRONG

Radical Islamic terrorist are responsible for the attacks.  Totally and completly, but only Clinton made it easy for them.

Show me

I watched him pretty much back them, and I am in MO tonight.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

general company... I

general company...

I watched O'Reilly virtually every night back then, either the original or rebroadcast, or recorded it.  I counted over 40 show segments which were devoted in whole or in part to the proposition that "Bill Clinton was responsible for 9/11"...and then I got tired of counting.

But after the 9/11 hearings, Bill began slightly tweaking his position, and later I heard him say on more than one occasion that both Bush and Clinton bore responsibility [although he still felt Clinton was more responsible.]

Jer

→ Well, he kinda , , , was

Clinton shoulda' said "Take the shot!"

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

Agreed, Cool.

Agreed.

Of course, Clinton would have been raked over the coals--just like he was after the 47 cruise missile launch.  It seemed most of the country was against that sort of international meddling back then.

Unfortunately, with 300 million Americans behind him, GWB couldn't take him out during the 7 1/2 years after 9/11. 

Jer

 

Clinton was raked over the coals........

for those missiles because he used them to deflect critisism from his affair with Monica, or some other political malfeasance, most of the country was against his internal meddling.

Of course, Clinton would

Of course, Clinton would have been raked over the coals

And of course we know President Clinton would never want that, he always stuck his finger in teh wind before he did anything.  Clinton was a poor leader.  President Bush took teh bull by the horns and made surre America was safe.

JerGate day 14

Still waiting, Anointed

Still waiting, Anointed One...

Jer

Anointed One Watch:  Day 7 (or is it 8?  time flies)

 

"Obama is from the depths of Hell"  Dan the Man 2 a/k/a "The Anointed One"

→ Not so, Jer

How badly did Clinton get raked over the coals when he attacked Iraq with Cruise Missiles at the height of the Lewinski madness?

And how can you be sure we would even have been implicated directly had Osama bin Ladin been shot?

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

Cool...

Andrew Sullivan of the New Republic said it [paraphrasing] would possibly be remembered as the worst thing Clinton did during his presidency.  Some GOP leaders [e.g. Gingrich] supported the action, as well as some conservative publications [e.g. the National Review], but a number of conservative politicians, talk radio heads, and GOP rank and file ridiculed Clinton.

Clinton has been directly implicated for bin Laden not being shot.  Believe me, if he had been taken out, the Clinton-haters would never have given him credit (see Obama and Somali pirates episode for an analogue), or if they had, it would have been negative [fomenting potential violence].

Jer

→ Agreed, Jer

But Bush I kidnaped a sitting Dictator, Manuel Noriega, and it wasn't a big deal.

A covert 98 cent solution to the bin Laden problem wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.

But it's interesting that you bring up the question of whether the Cons would give Clinton credit when we're talking about a covert operation.

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

→ I forgot

The News arm of the Democrat Party, the New York Times, tipped bin Ladin off to the CIA's method of tracking him.

Hard to track an enemy when those who claim to be Americans are hiding him.

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

Are you sure about that

Are you sure about that Cool?  It was once reported that it was the conservative Washington Times who actually did the "tipping off".  However, I did some cursory checking several months ago, and discovered that it may have been unfair to blame the Washington Times although they did publish the story about cell phone tracing.  Do you have evidence it was the NYT which was the actual culprit?

Jer

→ May be right

I'll start with March, 2004.

"The Rule of Law is the only thing that separates us from Democrats" - a Firefighter

Your hatred of BOR must be blinding

Noel covered it and google hasnt much on it either. I suggest you provide some quotes or retract you claim.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

general company...

I don't care for BOR, but I certainly don't hate him.  I know what I heard, and I know what I saw, so I'll retract nothing.  But I'm willing to be hooked up to any lie detector administered by a competent polygrapher in the country.

What exactly are your points of disagreement?

Jer 

What the heck do you think?

 
What exactly are your points of disagreement?

 He never claimed Clinton was solely responsible. You knew it  when you stated it !! 

I have watch Bill enough to know he is not that irresponsible.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

g c...

You don't think that stating during his talking points that because of Bill Clinton's policies three thousand Americans died on 9/11 is not blaming Clinton.  Were you watching his show in the six month period following 9/11?

Jer

Provide the quotes Jer

Or quit with the slander. I have been more then patient with your claim.

I will apologize dramatically if you can prove your claim!! 

Yes we were watching, no he NEVER said it, I even called and asked the wife.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I watched the shows.  I

I watched the shows.  I gave you an example of one of his talking points in my previous post.  Why don't you provide me with proof that during the six months following 9/11, he assigned part of the blame to Bush.  If he did, it was on one of the few nights that I missed his show.

That's what I'm saying, in the months following 9/11 he blamed Clinton but not Bush.  It was much later that he began assigning part of the blame to Bush.

Now exactly how does your recollection differ?

Jer

Examples? where? Liberal slime machine, Jer

You have provided nothing but smears. You jump on your high horse every chance you get. But your spurs are dull and the leather is rotten. Jer I used to have some hope for you. But you are simply a Liberal slime machine, no care for what you claim or who you smear. I am sad I waisted so many words on you.

 Why don't you provide me with proof that during the six months following 9/11, he assigned part of the blame to Bush

Why, did I claim he didnt? NO I did not, what this has to do with your slandor of a good man I have know idea. But then I am not a liberal with convoluted thinking. 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Like I said, g c...I

Like I said, g c...I haven't a clue as to what you are objecting to.  Again, are you saying he blamed both, neither, George Soros?  Tell me.

Jer

I dont use the lier word lightly

Jer: Even O'Reilly--who shortly after 9/11 commenced months of relentlessly
scolding Clinton claiming he was soley to blame for the attacks--finally accepted the irrefutable fact that both
administrations bore responsibility.

 Like I said, g c...I haven't a clue as to what you are objecting to.

Sure you dont Jer. Everyone else who reads this knows what is going on, but yet you dont. We both know your not that thick.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

This is absurd.  I am

This is absurd.  I am saying BOR did not blame Bush at all for 9/11 during any of the Factor episodes that I watched during the first few months after 9/11.  He was assigning all of the blame to Clinton.  Obviously I didn't see every show.  But I was a very regular viewer.  Like I have said repeatedly:  Maybe he stated otherwise on those occasions I missed the telecast.  And, once again, later on he did assign some of the blame to Bush.

I stand by that.  I'm not slandering O'Reilly or you.

Jer

 

Liberal laughs? Sorry PJ

Jer: I am saying BOR did not blame Bush at all for 9/11 during any of the Factor episodes that I watched during the first few months after 9/11.

Ohh so thats what you meant when you said

Jer: Even O'Reilly--who shortly after 9/11 commenced months of relentlessly scolding Clinton claiming he was soley to blame for the attacks-

And where did you get this info?

Jer: I watched O'Reilly virtually every night back then, either the original or rebroadcast, or recorded it.  I counted over 40 show segments which were devoted in whole or in part to the proposition that "Bill Clinton was responsible for 9/11"...and then I got tired of counting.

Oh my, and you have the transcripts, video, anything, a finger print?

Jer: You don't think that stating during his talking points that because of Bill Clinton's policies three thousand Americans died on 9/11 is not blaming Clinton.

Concentrate! You seemed to forget what we were talking about?

Jer: I gave you an example of one of his talking points in my previous post.

But I searched and searched, and when I asked again you said


Jer: Like I said, g c...I haven't a clue as to what you are objecting to.  Again, are you saying he blamed both, neither, George Soros?

No I did not say that, but please, thanks for clearing that up, good night.


Jer: If Bill O'Reilly has hurt feelings and believes I slandered
[technically "libeled"] him, he can sue me.  But just between you and
me, O'Reilly doesn't give a rat's ass what I posted about him.


I'm done.  Wear yourself out.

I said g'night? Geez

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

By the way, O'reilly also

By the way, O'reilly also believes it's an irrefutable fact that one unidentified man at Exxon sets the price of oil everyday too.

I don't need to be

I don't need to be convinced that BOR is wrong about a lot of things.

Jer

Start providing evidence

Or quit your false claims

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

g c...

I don't want to get in another fight with you.  But if you really are spoiling for one, you can start by backing up your completely unsupported allegations the other night.  Just generally linking to a series of posts is not helpful at all.  Specify what you claim my false statements were.  That was utterly irresponsible of you.  As I mentioned, it's exactly what bigtimer and Dee Bunk did to me last year.  They were mistaken, but absolutely refused to provide a sliver of evidence to support their charges  They had apparently, but erroneously, thought I was part of a group posting on a topic, when in fact I had taken no part in it.  But they would never back down.  Never apologize...just kept smearing.

Jer  

Very good Jer

So you cant prove your claims, so you suggest bad behavior on my part. Very nice. I also noticed you provided no evidence of that either.

So you have managed to slime both me and Bill ORielly in the same thread using the very same evidence. We need to go have that dinner soon, so I can show you my appreciation. 

Not your threats, your false claims, or your apologies will keep me from exposing you to be the fraud you are. BTW go find Shawn and ask him for all the help you can get.

Did I spell that out good enough for you bulldog?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

No evidence.  How about

No evidence?  How about pointing out the fact that you were the one making the charges against me the other night without any evidence or examples other than linking to a series of posts.  I had no idea what you were referring to.  This is unbelievable.

I told you what I heard and saw on O'Reilly.  I'm sure your wife is wonderful and honest, but just calling her and asking her if she agrees with you isn't going to cut it.  I'll ask my wife in the morning and let you know her recollection. 

You still haven't even told me what you specifically disagree withAre you saying that he blamed both Clinton and Bush in the months after 9/11?  Please just answer that for me.

Jer

g c...Look.  I apologize about the spelling criticism.  You're spelling is just fine.  And it doesn't make any difference anyway.  It's what you say, not how the words are spelled.  I felt like your post was out of line that night and that's why I reacted.  I'm very sorry.

Your crawfishing again

I am not falling for it again, just like the other night. 

 I told you what I heard and saw on O'Reilly

Where, I must had missed it, considering this is what this whole thing is about? You thought you could slandor a good man with impunity, well I am here to say you cant. 

  I felt like your post was out of line that night and that's why I reacted

Oh so we slander BOR to make up for it? My post was just fine, find it false and I will apologize significantly, as always. 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I did not slander Bill

I did not slander Bill O'Reilly.  I posted what I heard him say regarding the assignment of blame for 9/11 over a several month period in 2001-2002.  I have absolutely no intention of ordering up and rummaging through six months of transcripts and tweezering out every comment BOR made in connection with 9/11.  If you want to in order to prove my recollection is faulty, or that on those occasions when I missed his show he was saying something entirely different, you are more than welcome to do so.

Jer

Really? You think Bill feels that way?

 
I did not slander Bill O'Reilly.

Man, I wonder what a none liberal might think of that statement?

Even O'Reilly--who shortly after 9/11 commenced months of relentlessly
scolding Clinton claiming he was soley to blame for the attacks-
-finally accepted the irrefutable fact that both
administrations bore responsibility.

Are these your words Jer? Look them over carefully, make sure each and every one was yours, dont let me or any one else influence you? Now for the big question, Jer I need you to really think hard, what made you say this? Were you influenced? Did someone claim this and you were lead astray? Or did you hear this  conversation yourself? You know this is all public record right? Tell us the truth, we can handle it.

  If you want to in order to prove my recollection is faulty, or that
on those occasions when I missed his show he was saying something
entirely different, you are more than welcome to do so.

How about if I said I did? And you are a proven theif of the truth?

You know it doesnt work that way here Jer, you made the claim, put up or,,well you know.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

If Bill O'Reilly has hurt

If Bill O'Reilly has hurt feelings and believes I slandered [technically "libeled"] him, he can sue me.  But just between you and me, O'Reilly doesn't give a rat's ass what I posted about him.

I'm done.  Wear yourself out.

Jer

Sad, sad, excuse for bad mouthing a very good man

 
But just between you and me, O'Reilly doesn't give a rat's ass what I posted about him.

 So that makes your slander ok? See if I were you, I would just apologies. Dont hurt that much?

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

g c

Sadly, what you're a victim of here -- and I've fallen prey to it in the past, as you probably know -- is the liberal strategy of mucking up a debate, forcing it off it's on-topic course with any and all distractions, be they personal issues, issues with third-party people, feelings (oh, they do love those feelings), out-there references, etc..

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

Oh but Mr Shy read the thread.

 I only get a few days here and there to spend here, I have dedicated my time to expose our theifs of the truth. They cannot debate, there logic is false. Plus it is fun like the rollercoaster weeee.

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

You and Shy can ride the

You and Shy can ride the rollercoaster together.  I've had enough of this foolishness.

Good night...

Jer

Once again, Shy, and it's

Once again, Shy, and it's is unfortunate, but you have no clue what you are talking about.  So why don't you butt out?

Jer

He is entitled to make any comment he wants

If anyone needs to but out, it is the stealer of the truth!

Procced Mr Shy

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Water Torture

Here is water torture done by the Mythbusters
vhttp://electronics.howstuffworks.com/mythbusters2.htm

Denial ain't just ...

I thought terrorism existed prior to President Bush's response to the "man-made disasters" of 9-11. Don't these reporters know that?

Am I mistaken? Or is it true, as Mark Twain said, "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt."

metaphorsbwithu

metaphorsbwithu, It's "man Caused disasters"

Like an earthquake, or an avalanche, sit back and relax nothing you can do about it..

0bama has cut  defence, and is adding green carbon tax killing jobs..

Such a warm and squishy feeling all over..look over there ,I saw a unicorn.

Reagan VS Carter and 0bama

Just another

propagandist flacking for Obama. How about finding a real story to tell instead of the Faux News Lara?

maybe he's not so popular...

Check out this video of Precious standing in receiving line with the Saudi king and several won't shake O's hand.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8ca_1244063181 

Obama gets owned

Oh yeah, there are a few (million?) out there who know how to tweak Obama. Just tell him 'do this and you will be more liked' and he does it. Hence, our Middle Eastern friends are saying, 'Stab the dirty Jews in the back, Mr. President and we will love you.'

D

Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.

Obama will only empower

Obama will only empower terrorists, not cripple them as the air-heads at CBS would have you believe.

Don’t forget to take the pledge.

 

 http://iamnotaracist.wordpress.com/  

"The Arab world expects a

"The Arab world expects a lot of this President. From pulling out of Iraq, to ending torture"

And somehow, she even managed to say this with a straight face too, lol. Seriously, does she know where Cairo is?

rot row

If you haven't already, start making your escape plans

No joke.

The SCM (State Controlled Media) is now running things.

If you cannot see this by now, then I guess it sucks to be you.

Later, comrade.

-Dave

Will the Ummah change the way the Koran is used?

Many use it to call for blood and death.  Imams...ayatoilets...

Too many...that's the problem.  Islam has not changed in over a thousand years.  There have been over 13,300 terrorist attacks in the name of islam since 9/11.  Some large, some small.  Some make the news and some don't...but the bloodshed never stops...not for one day.  

Now...Obambi will speak...and act...and all terrorism shall cease. How God-like.  How impossible...how ridiculous. 

Terrorism will never cease to exist for one group or another.  We can however seek to end islamic terrorism.  The Ummah...the Muslims themselves are the only ones that can cause this to happen.

There are occasional glimmers of hope that this might happen.  I hope it will.  If not...what then?  I think I know...

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.

"Moronic NetNews" is redundent...

Sigh!

It would seem

That if you continuously stuff that Constant Bull Shit in your mouth, it affects your brain.

how stupid can stupid be?

 Why does Fox News hire pretty women with brains and the MSM only hire pretty  women who have no brains?

GIVE THEM AN INCH

Give them your neck.

(Lenin called them "useful idiots" I for one have no use for them.)

jer

Why all the hubub over what this instigator thinks? The facts are we were attacked and you can assign responsibility to both administrations, emphasis on Bubba's. The fact is that we are returning to an approach in dealing with the problem that got us continually attacked, culminating in 9-11, by responding to those attacks with subponeas and little more. Clarke and Nobright both testified that Bubba was ready to attack the training camps but were "afraid" the public wouldn't go for it. That's their definition of leadership, it wouldn't poll well. Don't be suprised if Obama cuts loose Afghanistan, declares victory, promises them aid then lets the Dems in Congress pull another Vietnam and cuts their aid off.

But if we pull out of Iraq,

But if we pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan and we close Gitmo, Lara Logan is no longer going to have any locations from which to wreck homes. 

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill