CBS's Pelley Notes History of Presidents Invoking Executive Privilege
On Wednesday's CBS Evening News, after a report in which it was noted that the Obama administration has invoked executive privilege over the investigation into the Fast and Furious scandal, anchor Scott Pelley related the history of other Presidents taking similar measures.
After tying in George Washington, Pelley ended up informing viewers that Bill Clinton had used similar tactics 14 times - more than twice the number of Richard Nixon and George W. Bush. Pelley:
You know, we were curious about which Presidents invoked executive privilege the most. The research department tells us every President, including Washington, has tried to keep information from Congress. In modern times, Richard Nixon invoked executive privilege six times, half of those over the Watergate investigation. President George W. Bush, also six times. And Bill Clinton, 14 times, about half of those involving investigations of the President's personal conduct.
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"Over personal conduct"
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 4:56am.
Hahahahaha
How oblique and misleading. It's like saying that killing American citizens who wage war against the US is "extrajudicial." Sort of like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkdo0LdBU8w
Ah, Scott Pelley, you twit.
The personal conduct, of course, took part with Monica Lewinsky and was considered to be consistent with other incidents that were the basis of an investigation into sexual harassment allegation by Paula Jones ... and it was those allegations of harassment that Clinton lied about under oath, a felony.
Not exactly...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 5:37am.
There was no evidence of Lewinsky being sexually harassed. Clinton did, however, give false and misleading testimony regarding the nature of his relationship with her. The allegations of harassment filed by Jones were determined to be so devoid of legal merit that her lawsuit was dismissed by the presiding judge before reaching trial. Jones appealed the decision.
Jer
And Clinton settled.
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 12:55pm.
Let us not forget that Clinton settled with Ms Jones, to a tune of 850,000 dollars. This was after the Appeals Court ruled the dismissal as inappropriate and that the lawsuit could continue. Also, Clinton tried to have the case dismissed on the ground that you can;t sue a sitting President because he's too important to the federal government and can't afford the distraction. The Supreme Court disagreed.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Well, there you go, Cobra.
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 2:50pm.
Pointing out pesky facts, again.
Well, there you go, UpNorth...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 6:22pm.
Relying on Cobra's misstatement of the facts instead of informing yourself of the actual and accurate history of the litigation. Why don't you do that and save yourself further embarrassment.
Jer
How, exactly, can facts be misstated if they are ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 6:58pm.
indeed facts?
Or are you saying the facts he misstated were not factual facts?
Or are you saying that his statements, while factual, were not in any way connected to the facts relative Slick Willie's situation?
What, exactly, is the meaning of the word "is"?
MD
Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:14pm.
a. According to the sworn statements of two professional psychologists, Matthew Dean is an idiot.
b. Disagreeing with the conclusions of two psychologists, over a dozen witnesses comprised of world-renowned neuropsychiatrists plus an impressive array of psychologists, physicians, educators, friends, associates, and family members provided irrefutable documentary evidence as well as compelling testimony establishing petitioner Dean's sound mind and superior intellect. The jury agreed and Dean was permitted to continue commenting at political websites.
One could quote (a.) and it would be a technical statement of fact, but without adding (b.) it would have been a misstatement of the facts. Perhaps "misrepresentation" would have been preferable.
Occasionally, it really does depend on what the meaning of "is" is.
Jer
Aha, Jer !! ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 8:29pm.
Those first two professional psychologists are Democrats, ain't they?
Figures. :o)
"Misrepresentation' would be a good one word description; but as a conservative sticking up for one of my own, I would demand that word be preceded by 'unintended'.
MD
Admittedly, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:45pm.
I believed not enough weight was given to the opinions of those first psychologists. :-)
Jer
So?
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:13pm.
Whats that got to do with what Cobra posted?
Boudin, do you recall your classic retort to me:
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:39pm.
"I don't fetch for liberals"!
Well, I won't fetch for you. The record is easily web accessible. Read it.
Jer
I have so many, thanks.
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 9:51pm.
But you just accused Cobra of posting "misstatements". But instead of explaining yourself, you hurl childish statements at Matt.
Do you consider yourself to be a serous person?
Really? And what were those childish statements I hurled
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:13pm.
at Matthew?
Do you consider yourself to be an honest person?
Jer
As the day is long!
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:16pm.
a. According to the sworn statements of two professional psychologists, Matthew Dean is an idiot.
Childish, no
And still no explanation about Cobra? nice
Boudin, Jer like bal has the 50 first date, frame of mind.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:39pm.
Every day there is a new thread....
Say I'll comment over there...
You Didn't Build That.
Yea, that and his
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:47pm.
Fanny is a little sore courtesy of The Vet.
Will someone please explain to Boudin how my reply
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 10:48pm.
to Matthew was not "childish".
It's obvious that he won't believe or accept any explanation from me.
Jer
Ok, Jer ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 12:14am.
I see your reply to me as nothing more than being part and parcel of our usual give and take in which we swap insults.
Any words used by either of us that are not banned by the moderators are considered acceptable in ragging on one another.
Howzat?
MD
Poifect...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 3:04am.
Jer
And the
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 7:27am.
Accusation made to Cobra?
I guess I am confused, you complain about offensive comments out of one side of your keyboard, then create a few out of the other.
Guess I will simply ignore your complaints in the future.
IKE USED "EXECUTIVE PRIVELEGE" TO STOP MCCARTHY
Submitted by lrgon on Thu, 06/21/2012 - 5:21pm.
from taking his investigation into the state department and to the presidency itself. McCarthy was gutsy to point the spotlihgt at the executive branch. He wanted to know who was protecting communists. McCarthy never got a chance to pursue his investigation into atheistic communism and the nest of spies that riddled the federal government. Ike created or invented the "executive privelege" tactic to stop McCarthy's investigation from proceeding any further.
This assinine statement by the CBS Pelley simply states that "executive privelge" has been invoked by other president but he doesn't dare say that it is totally unconstitutional.
Congress has a right, indeed a duty, to defend the Constitution against all enemies, even domestic enemies that are conspiring to subvert the Constitution. Congress needs to do its duty to protect America from internal threats.
Wasn't it Lincoln who said that if America falls it will be due to internal attacks not external?
Ike had been a lifelong Democrat and a protege of Eleanor Roosevelt who helped him to move his career along quite quickly. The first lady belonged to communist front organizations and did not appreciate what McCarthy was doing in exposing soviet spies in our government.
FDR used the executive pen to write law which is a violation of article I, section one of the US Constitution which says that all legislative powers belong to congress. http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article1
Record temperatures out on Loon Lake this week.
Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 06/22/2012 - 1:10am.
As loons have difficulty shedding heat, many loon brains have been frying even more than usual.
Ignore the heatstroke brain addled loon as usual.