FNC Hosts Slam Maher for Rape Joke Targeting Hasselbeck, 'Urge' Book Boycott
Wednesday's Fox and Friends on FNC gave attention to the recent confrontation between HBO host and comedian Bill Maher and Elisabeth Hasselbeck, the right-leaning co-host of ABC's The View, as Maher appeared as a guest on the ABC show.
Hasselbeck brought up a tasteless rape joke Maher told earlier in the year on his Real Time show after the sexual assault of CBS correspondent Lara Logan as she reported from Egypt in which he suggested sending Hasselbeck to Egypt.
After playing a clip from The View, FNC co-host Gretchen Carlson condemned the HBO host's behavior, and co-host Brian Kilmeade urged viewers not to buy Maher's book and to even return copies that have already been purchased.
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Wednesday, November 16, Fox and Friends:
STEVE DOOCY: So his defense was, hey, come on, Elisabeth, first of all, you're a public figure. And secondly, I'm a comedian, I'm out for laughs, no funny no money, so just get over it. That's what he said.
GRETCHEN CARLSON: This is what all comedians do when they want to become partisan. They just blame it on the fact that they're just a comedian so they can get away with it. And, furthermore, the rape of women, by the way, rises above any politics. I don't care if you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, socialist, whatever you are, the rape of a woman, it doesn't matter what your politics are, and that was a stupid comment for him to ever say in the first place, and completely offensive to any woman.
BRIAN KILMEADE: And I urge you not to go out and buy his book. In fact, if you have it, go return it. Please go ahead.
- Brad Wilmouth's blog
- Login to post comments
Comments
She should have clocked him
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:35am.
The concave-chested putz deserved it and more. And then let him try and sue...she'd have more vocal support than anyone could imagine.
That's a nice idea, but
Submitted by panzerakc on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 8:29pm.
think of what she would have to clean off her hand. Eeeewww.
I wouldn't buy...
Submitted by GeneralAl on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:37am.
I wouldn't buy a copy of this idiot's obituary, let alone, his filthy book. This is great justification for a public book burning [Only thing better, Moron Maher on the fire!].
"Old Soldiers never die, they just fade away"!
Meanwhile,
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:42am.
Cain is vilified for saying a woman was the same height as his wife.
It's the ugly truth, but ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:01am.
... liberal men absolutely hate and look down on women, and all other minorities!
They consider themselves to be the educated, intelligent, elite leaders and "da massa" of everyone and everything else. They tolerate liberal women and some race hustling blacks because they are useful as "walking bosses."
The day is fast approaching when they will become desperate in their attempt to enslave the majority of people in this country, just as they have successfully done in other countries, and they will revert to the tried and true method of brute force.
I hope you all have the wherewithal to resist? Practice. Practice. Practice.
Help me out Newsbubba...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:30am.
I'm trying to organize my list. Just in the past two days I've learned that I hate women, blacks, Jews, and ALL minorities; that I suffer from a mental disease and yearn to exterminate conservatives and steal money from the wealthy, butcher babies and commit various and sundry other acts of violence. What else? I feel like I have overlooked at least a couple of additional despicable character flaws.
Jer
here is help Jer,
Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:43am.
In the last few days I've learned exactly the same things about myself as a fiscal conservative except that I want to exterminate liberals.
Also, throw in that I want to kill the planet, poison the air and reduce all minorities to poverty. Also, that I don't trust, understand or have any comprehension of what is like anywhere outside of flyover country.
One of my favorites is that I just don't know how hard college students work and how much they deserve to have their debts forgiven and granted a working wage until they be given a job that is suitable to the hard work and sacrifices they have made in earning their degree.
"A maniacal, obsessive urge to defend Shmoe as a Conservative"
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:54am.
.
You realize, of course, SoL...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:49pm.
the only reason I give you a pass for those irritating little lectures you feel obliged to deliver to me on occasion is because you are just too damn funny!
Love it.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:57am.
Of course most of us know that's not true about you, though I would say that progressives -especially those that believe they are the chosen ones to lead the next century- USE minorities to further an agenda. They certainly have not delivered for the people that for decades they have been claiming to stand for.
I wonder, outside some unexplainable need to always prop up the underdog, what successful data points can you point to that emanated from liberal compassion in politics? And I don't mean successful in the way progressives define it - like any social program from FDR or LBJ - but successful for the country as a whole.
And one more question for a liberal: Do you believe you will be more prosperous under a progressive platform or a conservative platform? In other words, if Obama was allowed to institute his wish list of progressive political actions, do suspect that in five years following you'd be wealthier? Healthier? Freer? In ten years? Twenty? And why? (Okay, that was several questions, but all in the same vein...)
List goes on...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:18am.
So basically you are a democrat? Do I have that right?
Excellent point, MM...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:56pm.
Will add to list post haste.
Jer
I know, Jer.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:21am.
It's sad when a liberal awakens to their "despicable character flaws." Don't worry though, because that is the first step in the 12 Step Program to getting over being a liberal.
Until you realize that what liberals do to, and really feel toward 'the little people" who really need their superior, intelligent guidance, you can't hope to be cured!
Looks like you have a chance here, bubba. Step One is always the toughest, but you're there, so good luck with the rest of the program.
You may yet find yourself clinging to God and your gun, watching Fox News, listening to Rush, and wondering how the hell a totally inexperienced community organizer with no history of anything but voting present all his life actually ended up in the White House, based on nothing but the fact that "he is a clean and articulate black man" who "can speak in proper English or ethnic, when he has to, for different audiences."
Is this a great country or what.
How's that plan to tax the crap out of Jack Daniels working out for you folks up there?
Jer
Submitted by ant on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 8:03pm.
I used to be a Dem-voting lib back in the day too, and one of the many reasons for my walking away, wasn't that I was ONE of them, but that I realized I wasn't but I had been supporting the worst of them. It was commentary and beliefs from people back then similar to the same I hear from Mahrer, Obama, Maddow, etc. today that made me uncomfortable even to have a D next to my name anymore. Conservatives and 'TeaParty' types may be called many derogatory things, but they aren't what they are accused of, the left are pretty much what they call others and deny they are.
Yea well,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:08pm.
Jer aint as bright as you,
Bright enough
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:09pm.
to know how to spell "yeah", sport.
Jer
Yea, ok Matt
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:19pm.
er, Jer. Did I get er right?
Look, I might not spell so good, but I do know the differences between my yea's. As in "truly" or "indeed". Good grief, your slippin.
No, Boudin...you didn't get er right.
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:34pm.
But no need to embarrass you further. I wouldn't have pointed it out in the first place--I'm generally not a stickler when it comes to spelling errors in the comment section of a political website...we all make them--but in this case you asked for it.
Jer
Yea works fine, Boudin, in place of, OR as a synonym for---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 2:31am.
yeah.
Jer sometimes has to reach a bit to deliver what he thinks is a stinging rebuke.
MD
Bullshit, Dean...let's see your source
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 3:29am.
Here's mine [which was the first one I opened at random].
Do you really think Boudin intended to use "yea"--which rhymes with "pay"--in the context of his comment headline? If he explains his usage so that it justifies the spelling, I'll apologize to him and admit I ain't very bright. [After noting that he also misused "your" in "your slippin'". I always like to have a fallback position. It's a strategy I've employed with great success during my NB campaigns.]
Jer
Dictionary.com
Submitted by TempusFugit on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 3:35am.
yeah: variant of yea or yes. I'd say Boudin was correct
You can say it, TempusFugit, but that
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:18am.
doesn't mean you or Boudin is correct. Boudin and I are both Southerners. Nobody, and I do mean NOBODY, who is a true Southerner would be caught dead saying "yea" [again, rhymes with "pay" "day" "lay" etc.] when he or she really means "yeah".
Here's more grist for your mill:
"The word yea is the oldest of the group, and it is likely that yeah, ya, and yay all derive directly from it. Yea goes back more than a thousand years, from the Old English gea by way of Middle English ye. It has a number of meanings, but all are roughly affirmations, much as yeah is. Yea can be used as a synonym for indeed, as in the sentence, “Yea, it did come to pass.” It can mean something like not just this, but also this, as in the sentence “a large, yea, a titanic wave came crashing in.” It can be used simply to mean yes, as in the sentence “Yea, I will do it.” In modern usage, however, yea is only really seen in voting, where it is used to denote an affirmative vote, in contrast to nay. The word yea has a pronunciation the same as yay, rhyming with the word may."
source
Jer
Funny but
Submitted by TempusFugit on Fri, 11/18/2011 - 11:29pm.
I've never once heard tone or inflection from typed words on a written page. When I saw "yea" I assumed it was pronounced same as yeah. I once I owned a Beatles record (yeah I'm that old) that had printed lyrics where the many yeahs the Beatles used were spelled as yeh. I assume that yeah, yeh, or however it is to be spelled is a slang word. It's probably one of those slang words that has become so common (perhaps due to the Beatles) that it is now recognized as an actual true English word. So how would you or I know what Boudin's intention was? What was intending it to be pronounced as? I read it as being pronounced the same as yeah. You read it as pronounced as yay. I showed you that dictionary.com has yeah as a variant of yea. It's my opinion that Boudin was correct. It's your's that he (I'm assuming a male here. Don't know everyone well enough to tell yet. If Boudin is female I apologize) wasn't. So if the Beatles can spell it as yeh why can't Boudin spell it as yea?
Boudin provided his source.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 3:42am.
2: more than this : not only so but —used to introduce a more explicit or emphatic phrase
Since this is informal in nature, I would say his use was acceptable.
Appending some descriptive term after Yea makes a nice touch. "Verily"; an archaic term meaning "Truly", was often used to affirm the "yes" statement as in "Yea verily" ("Yes truly").
Yea well, Jer aint as bright as you,
Roget's Thesaurus:
yea
Top
Home > Library > Literature & Language > Thesaurus
adverb
It is so; as you say or ask: absolutely, agreed, all right, assuredly, aye, gladly, indubitably, roger, undoubtedly, unquestionably, willingly, yes. Informal OK, uh-huh, yeah, yep. Slang right on. See affirm/deny/argue.
Yeah, well, this is also from your link, Vet:
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:05am.
Yea or YEA can refer to
An archaic form of yes, used mainly in oral voting, and the opposite of nay.
A MISTAKEN SPELLING of the word "yeah" which means "yes."
See also ya. [my emphasis in bold]
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/yea#ixzz1dwqinWo1
That is precisely what occurred in Boudin's case.
Jer
And Boudin's link also contained a quote
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:51am.
And it was Merriam-Webster.
And the quote won't show due to the pointy brackets that http also interprets. Here it is ---
yet the impression, yea the evidence, is inescapable — J. G. Harrison
Since it is informal and pretty much accepted the world over, correcting don't count.
Well, Vet...maybe in some parts of the South some
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:20am.
folks say "yay well" meaning "yeah, well". Perhaps in Louisiana. But, I have never known anyone in GA or TN to do so.
Jer
Of course, your own link, Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:52am.
stated that yea also means yeah, but you then try to change the debate to one about pronunciation instead of definition.
Portable goalposts, eh?
MD
Ease up, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:01am.
and scroll down the link Boudin provided - it's explained right there that the spelling 'yea' is indeed a synonym for 'yeah'.
'Yea', pronounced "yeh" (and I have seen it written that way as dialog - or dialogue - countless times), sounds just exactly like 'yeah', does it not?
Believe it or not, I don't really attempt to make a case out of what I THINK someone is trying to get across, as I never had much success as a mind reader. I leave that up to you liberals.
You are indeed a bright person; I only got involved in the first place because I felt Boudin may have been taking a shot at my propensity for being snarky about spelling.
I am fully aware that correct spelling is not high on everyone's list - nor should it be. Intelligence is certainly not delineated solely by ones ability to spell or expertise in lexicography.
As a means, however, of puncturing any blowhard, or troll's conceit - it is a most satisfying way to make them look the fool when they assume either the mantle or the role of either lecturer or purveyor of erudition.
MD
One point, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:11am.
"Yea', pronounced "yeh" (and I have seen it written that way as dialog - or dialogue - countless times), sounds just exactly like 'yeah', does it not?"
It does not.
Jer
Certainly does to me, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:27am.
but if that is what you plan to maintain as a feeble attempt to claim victory, knock yourself out.
The colloquialism "drug", mouthed in place of 'dragged', does exist as part of the spoken language; so does the word spelled yea but pronounced as yeh or yeah.
You going to demand that 'pea' be pronounced 'pay' so as to be deemed both proper and acceptable in order to escape your criticism?
If so, you funny guy.
MD
I'm sorry, Matthew, but it is YOUR attempt which is teetering
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:40am.
on the brink of total collapse. Even the sources which imply a degree of interchangeability with the words "yea" and "yeah" still recognize that the former is pronounced with a long "a" inflection--pay, say, gay, may, hay. There is absolute unanimity in acknowledging that fact.
Jer
That is entirely YOUR interpretation, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:43am.
and you are wrong.
I asked you this question once before, and never got an answer - If you see a white horse walk in front of you; have you seen a white horse?
MD
Then find me a source which says otherwise. Every one I
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:59am.
have linked, plus all the ones I've seen but haven't linked, agree that yea is pronounced yay. Thus far, yours is the only dissenting opinion.
As far as your horse question, I don't recall your asking it previously. But my answer would be "probably, but not necessarily."
Jer
You jest; surely you jest, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:44am.
You are now hanging your argument on the pronunciation of y-e-a ?
How did this "debate" morph from whether yea could mean yeah, and what was in Boudin's mind, into y-e-a is considered by the whole world to be pronounced yay?
My contention was that yea is a synonym for yeah; your own damned source proved it; and now you want to slide sideways into demanding a source that shows a pronunciation different than what you have seen, otherwise you can automatically declare yourself winner of the debate?
Barrister bullsh*t.
As typified by your equivocal answer to the white horse question.
MD
Well, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:11am.
What is the unequivocal answer? I didn't know whether it was a trick question, a word game, a brain teaser or what. I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be coy or evasive.
That aside, I'll say this: I've never in my entire life heard someone say "yay well". [I'm using the phonetic spelling.] It sounds freakin' ridiculous, but I'll let Boudin state what his intention was. Goal posts firmly planted.
How's that?
Jer
Two things, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:39am.
1. y-e-a can be, and is, pronounced yeah. That is indisputable whether you have ever heard it that way or not.
2. Much as I hate to admit it, your answer to the question "If you see a white horse walk in front of you, did you see a white horse?"
Answer: "Probably, but not necessarily." - was a great answer.
Had you said yes, I would have replied, "Well, it was white on the side you saw."
Must be that lawyer training.
MD
Well, now I feel bad that I jumped on you in my last post, md.
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 7:25am.
so I take it back.
But, honestly, I have never heard 'yea' pronounced the same as 'yeah' [yeh].
Jer
Here's another source, Professor Dean....
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:31am.
“Yea” is a very old-fashioned formal way of saying “yes,” used mainly in voting. It’s the opposite of—and rhymes with—“nay.” When you want to write the common casual version of “yes,” the correct spelling is “yeah” (sounds like “yeh” ). When the third grade teacher announced a class trip to the zoo, we all yelled “yay!” (the opposite of “boo”!). That was back when I was only yay big.
source. Paul Brian's Common Errors in English Usage
By the way, do you ever link a source yourself, or do you just criticize the sources of others?
I keep asking for one, and you keep dodging.
Jer
Ain't dodging jack shit, Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:49am.
you just refuse to accept any answer you don't agree with.
Must be that lawyer training.
Still on that sourcing jag, eh?
I'm starting to think it has an erotic effect on you.
I notice you always seem to defend your sources but criticize the sources of others.
You do that a lot - talk about a source, sources, and sourcing.
The root word "source" itself, turns you on, doesn't it?
MD
Just ONCE, try googling, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 7:11am.
I'll walk you through it. Until you produce one source supporting your position, your repeating the same unsourced BS over and over isn't worth the time it takes you to type it and post it.
That "sourcing jag" as you call it is a fairly important component of posting on a political website. You might notice a lot of members here requesting links from time to time. There's a reason for that.
Also, did you miss the part where I said Boudin can state his original intention? Or did you just ignore it because it undermines your slam that I refuse to accept any answer I don't agree with.
Now post your customary injunction against presuming to tell you how to post and for me to shove it sideways, etc.
Jer
Damn Jer,
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 9:07am.
Is it that painful to admit I am right? I thought I was very clear in my meaning. I even gave you a source and synonym for my meaning. The discussion has been very funny, but I must confess. When I typed my first comment, I had no idea you would spend so much time proving it.
: ] see smile face
Seems we could discuss your "your" issues as well.
Okay, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 9:32am.
Do you pronounce "yea" in the manner which your Merriam-Webster source prescribes, i.e. rhyming with day, say, etc.? You'll note ya with a long a, and clicking the speaker symbol will give you an audio of the correct pronunciation. You are the only person I've ever known who says 'yay well'...instead of 'yeah, well'. But, there's always a first time for everything.
Jer
pronunciation?
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 10:10am.
How is that relevant? I told you my meaning. Now if you would had quibbled about punctuation, I might had agreed. But alas, you picked the wrong topic to complain about.
After all, didnt my source confirm my use? Hey, guess what a synonym for yeah is?
BTW maybe it's because I work with illiterates, but I have asked the first 4 folks who passed my office this morn the spelling of "yea" (2 PHD's, one Engineer and a bright Tech) guess how many agreed with you?
Well, I will tell you, 1, but only after I spelled "yeah" for her, but she is a Physicists. So what the heck does she know?
Have you ever watched or participated in a spelling bee, Boudin?
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 10:19am.
If so, then you would understand the relevance of pronunciation.
When you asked the 4 folks the spelling of "yea", how did you pronounce the word for them?
Jer
My God
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 11:44am.
The conversation really takes a turn for the worst overnight around here.
Yes, bk..and it's unfortunately triggered by a
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:26pm.
yet another typically trollish comment by Boudin, such as this gratuitous asininity:
Yea well,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:08pm.
Jer aint as bright as you,
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2011/11/16/fnc-hosts-slam-mah...
But, that's Boudin. It's who he is and what he does. He sees it as his fundamental NB mission.
Jer
spelling bee
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:31pm.
Jer, Boudin, bkeyser or any of the other great spellers out there:
Can you please come up with a suitable word to describe $15 trillion in debt?
I think the technical term for it, Agnostic, is
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:41pm.
Deep Doo-Doo.
h/t George H. W. Bush
Jer
Deep Doo-Doo
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 12:48pm.
Triple D
F Cup
F word
I'm starting to see a connection we are in deep doo-doo and completely F'ed
I got some
Submitted by TempusFugit on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:57pm.
Demodebt
Demortgage
Chinese Dollar Torture
Or maybe not a word but a sentence: "Yes Mr Wang, what part of our country would like us to sell today?"
Jer
Submitted by bkeyser on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:11pm.
I replied to you, but it wasn't a comment about you as much as it was about the fact that a lengthy discussion ensued about the words "yea" and "yeah". JSYK. Not disparaging anyone actually, just kind of a tongue in cheek remark about how bored everyone must have been last night.
Tonight, I'm hoping you all will take up "Yep" vs "yup" vs "uh huh" because frankly, I'm never sure which context requires which response. ;)
How about a few
Submitted by TempusFugit on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:14pm.
of Jeff Foxworthy's redneck words also? Yumtoo: going to the mall, yumtoo? Sensuous: told my old lady sensuous up get me a beer
Well, by all means Jer
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:50pm.
When you pick the words for the next spelling bee, use "yeah", consider it a trick question since the definition is virtually the same.
Also, it is absolutely hilarious that you complain about my trollish behavior, meanwhile you stay up all night arguing the pronunciation and usage of the word "yeah".
You have no sense of irony what so ever. My trollish behavior? Yea, right!
Look, Troll...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 6:54pm.
Check out what kicked it off: The same type of trollish comment and trollish behavior you've been engaging in ever since you've been on this website--you were a troll when you were posting under a previous account, and you're still a troll. I'll deal with it as I see fit.
Jer
And you still name call,
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 7:21pm.
Even as I am sure you are scolding others for the same.
As far as I can tell, the word "yea" "kicked it off" as my original comment doesnt seem to be in question.
Or do you think you are as bright as Ant?
Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 11/18/2011 - 9:33pm.
My problem is with gratuitous, unprovoked name-calling. As far as ant's and my comparative intelligence, I've never given the issue even a passing thought--it's completely irrelevant. However, your snarky comment--"Jer ain't as bright as you"--was typical of the trollish behavior which you have been engaging in for years as you continually follow me around interjecting your pointless digs and snide quips. And as long as you keep trolling and stalking, you can expect me to again call you a troll and a stalker. There's a simple solution: stop doing it.
Jer
Where?
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:27am.
I havent called you any names, nada. Also, I love the fact my so called "digs" bother you so much (even though all of them are in fun). Jer, irony hasnt touched you at all. You call me names, threaten to continue to do so, your comments are full of condensation, but yet I am expected (by you) to leave you alone, your so funny.
Your the one who has been guilty of these things for years.
BTW nothing would please me better then for you to find some silly spelling error, and stay up all night ridiculing me with it. G'night
I got your back Boudin
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 1:36am.
"your comments are full of condensation. "
1: the act or process of condensing: as a : a chemical reaction involving union between molecules often with elimination of a simple molecule (as water) to form a new more complex compound of often greater molecular weight b : the conversion of a substance (as water) from the vapor state to a denser liquid or solid state usually initiated by a reduction in temperature of the vapor c : compression of a written or spoken work into more concise form
2: the quality or state of being condensed
3: a product of condensing
Oh and you used "Your" wrong. Also, I would like to know how you pronounced "nada".
Jer, you may now enjoy your evening.
Boudin just said that---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 3:11am.
Jer was all wet. :o)
MD
Yep, that
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:02am.
Exactly what I meant.
Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 4:34am.
After years of reading your innumerable, unsolicited responses to my posts, I am more than capable of distinguishing the ones which fall under the category of "friendly" needles, quips and jabs [including the ones which omit an emoticon] from those which are designed to irritate, annoy, and/or demean. The former don't bother me--unless excessive and disruptive/derailing--and I reply in kind. The latter, however, because of both their content as well as their frequency, are products of behavior which is rude, pointless, and should have stopped many, many months ago. So, as long as you continue to engage in that conduct, don't expect any pats on the head from me, and I reserve the right to label the practice exactly what it is: trolling and thread stalking.
As you should be aware, I have repeatedly stated if you are interested in fair and constructive debate, I am ready and willing--even eager--to do so. That offer remains on the table. But you have never provided a shred of evidence that the proposition appeals to you in the least.
Jer
So who solicits responses?
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:25am.
And what do you mean there not friendly. I find them very funny, but hardly ever pointless. Talk about derailing threads Jer, how many have you derailed because of some innocuous comment ignored by everyone else. Besides, the longer this continues, the more I believe it.
BTW, I am not soliciting "pats on the head" (very classic line from you BTW), I get all I care for already, thanks.
Debate? About what, the word "yea"? Sorry Jer, I just cant get all fired up that.
Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:46am.
Check out your very first comment on this thread and then get back to me about thread derailment. And as far as getting fired up about yea, let's see...there was you, Tempus Fugit, matthewdean, the Vet, sentry...all stoking the fire.
Jer
Your fire,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:07am.
Get it? Trust me, the spelling of "yea" dont bother me. Unless of course, I find it bothers you.
Fire or not, I'm burned out.
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:10am.
Let's move on to LSU football or something.
Jer
Ok,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:17pm.
If LSU wins out Ol Miss, Ark, UG and the NC game. considering what they have already accomplished, should mean they are the best of the best
No fire stoking from me jer
Submitted by sentry_99 on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 12:34pm.
At least concerning the "The Great Yea Debate of 2011". I simply assisted both you and Boudin, freeing you both up for other pursuits.
sorry, sentry...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 7:38pm.
I'm hereby removing you from the Firestokers list. :-)
Jer
I wasn't stoking the fire, I was---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 10:34pm.
poking at Jer. :o)
MD
Well next time don't jab at me with
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 11/19/2011 - 11:34pm.
a fireplace poker heated to about 400 degrees. :-)
Jer
Shove it any direction you like, Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 11/18/2011 - 12:20am.
as you just cannot seem to get it through your skull that I have no reason to source my own opinion.
The fact it is my opinion IS the source.
Do you not understand that point?
You talk at me as though I am deficient in social skills because I don't snap shit and show you a link to a "source".
You, a liberal, presume to judge me and state whether or not what I type and post is worth anything because I neither meet YOUR criteria nor do as YOU suggest or others do?
That you feel sourcing is a "fairly important component of posting on a 'political' website " is supposed to what - send me into paroxysms of fear that I will be thought less of by fellow conservatives; maybe not be invited to toss out a few questions at the next televised Republican presidential candidate debate; or be looked down upon by truly sagacious posters such as yourself?
I come here to read comments by conservatives who think as I do, and to piss off liberals. Period.
Based on your interminable moaning and groaning, I can state without equivocation that I am successful at both.
MD
Well, your a pretty good fiddler
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 11/18/2011 - 10:07am.
But give this guy his due, cause, until Jer calls you a troll, your just another Right wing nut job.
Boudin---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 11/18/2011 - 10:41pm.
A conservative poster hasn't made his bones until Jer accuses him of being a stalker. :o)
MD
The Sword Review, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:12am.
the first 'source' you opened at random, YOUR source , states quite clearly that "yea" also means "yeah'.
Gonna fall on your sword, or quibble?
MD
Fall on my sword or quibble?
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:24am.
You know me well enough to know the answer to that one. It's like Groucho's "Who's buried in Grant's Tomb" question to contestants who would have otherwise gone home empty-handed.
Jer
And if they answered "Grant", Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:37am.
according to your logic they should for sure go home empty-handed because the proper term for being laid to rest in a tomb is being "interred", not "buried".
MD
Take it up with Groucho.
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:43am.
If you can find out where he is interred.
Jer
I inferred he was buried,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:45am.
not interred.
MD
LOL, I wouldn't say that
Submitted by ant on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:09pm.
but I do know Jer will be back after that one. Gotta hand it to Jer in terms of researching skills and effort, just too bad it's usually from sources with leftist agendas.
Yep,
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:20pm.
Dont you wish you could make dem sure bets?
ant...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:24pm.
Thank you for the compliment. However, my links are generally NOT to sources with leftist agendas--and on those occasions when they are, I try to always identify them as such. Now, I understand there are quite a few here who apparently believe anything that is not a demonstrably conservative source is automatically leftist--particularly those who rely on Drudge, HotAir, Atlas Shrugs, weaselzippers, etc. for their "objective" authority.
Jer
That's a rather convenient
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:10pm.
That's a rather convenient way of seeing things.
Balboa
Submitted by ant on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:29pm.
Is that addressed to me,'cause I'm not catching your drift. Do you mean convenient like making gang-rape/hate jokes and then saying "Hey, I'm just a comedian"?
As convenient as saying cop killers are innocent?
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 1:02am.
Yet failing to provide the tiniest shred of evidence to confirm your claims.
Is it as convenient as that?
Jer, You know, I pointed
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 2:15am.
Jer,
You know, I pointed this out to Mamabear, but she never addressed the issue.
Liberal policies, Liberal beliefs lead to unintentional or intentional bad consequences. Let me give you one example here in the State of Illinois.
The State of Illinois approved Civil Unions for homosexuals. Yeah, everyone applauded, what a glorious day for equality. Finally, homosexuals were going to be equal. Amazing...hooray! Right?...right.
Then, a funny thing happened almost immediately. The State of Illinois cut ties with Catholic Charities. Everyone started scratching their heads. What the heck? Catholic Charity is a pretty good contractor who works for the State of Illinois helping with adoptions, soup kitchens, and countless other things. Why would the State of Illinois want to harm thousands upon thousands of Illinois residents by cutting off Catholic Charities.
Well, since Catholic charities is run by the Roman Catholic Church which does not accept a homosexual union, the State of Illinois cut it from its contractor list on the basis of discrimination. Catholic Charities fought in court and sadly lost.
Now, yes, homosexuals civil unions are recongized in Illinois. Great victory for Liberals and homosexuals. However, at least 5,000 kids a year are not going to be adopted since this is the number of kids that Catholic Charities helped parents adopt. This is how much Liberal policies care for children. This is happening around the country where homosexual civil unions are being reconized.
You personally are not for 5,000 children in Illinois to be without a home, a family, but you support politicians who support laws and policies which lead to this.
Maybe you can explain, as Mamabear could not, how this civil union recognition is good for the 5,000 children who will not be adpoted. I guess they can thank the Democratic Party of Illinois, Barack Obama and the countless of selfish homosexuals who care about their feelings than about the children. Children are only to be used by the Democratic party when it gives them political gain, otherwise, throw them out in the streets, literally!
here's one more for your list of liberal flaws:
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 1:50pm.
The inability to accept the overarching truth of life on earth, which is that one's lifestyle and life choices are ultimately the cause of one's long-term situation. For example:
If an individual early in life neglects to value his own life and health to the point of failing to acquire even a modicum of health insurance, or financial savings for catastrophic events, then eventually the evil, heartless law of numbers will work tirelessly against that individual and deal him a blow for which he is unprepared to defend himself. It is at this point where the individual either succumbs to the consequences of his own inaction, or is forced to turn to society to indemnify him against his mistakes.
It is the opinion of conservatives in general that it is evil, yes Evil to extract by force from all of society the funds necessary to bail this person out. And just for the sake of clarity, and to knock down a couple of strawman arguments; we are not talking about removing a social safety net for the very least fortunate among us, or turning people away from the hospital emergency room when they have been hit by a car. Those two populations are indeed extremely small and very manageable in terms of federal or state support. But a young, healthy individual who chooses to party his way through his 20s, rather than to be prudent with his income is not deserving of a safety net when he developed diabetes at age 40 from poor lifestyle choices.
Silly me, I don't understand.
Submitted by Woodoggie on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:16am.
Why even cover what this Libidiot says? Any coverage is too much!All I ask of living is to have no chains on me,
And all I ask of dying is to go naturally.
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
It is a sad commentary on our
Submitted by michael lofrano on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:05am.
It is a sad commentary on our society that, after all his assaults on decency, Maher still has an audience.He is on the air only because people tune in, and people tune in because they like what he has to say, or at least are not offended by what he has to say. Too much seems not be enough for his viewers. The fault is not in our stars, but in ourselves. Boycott the network, not the book.
Bill Maher has...
Submitted by NVRAT on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:37am.
Been hanging around with those "Dope Smoking Menstruating Monkeys" again and it is showing in his personality. Remember, the pages of his book are good for TP if you run out but, sorry folks if you have septic system they will plug up the lines so, use them for fireplace starter material.
Isn't Maher's employer HBO owned by Time Warner Cable?
Submitted by frank14 on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:39am.
Boycott Time Warner- get Directv!
I'm not a big Maher fan. He
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:08am.
I'm not a big Maher fan. He says crazy things just so people can be astounded and then he can play it cool and say, "What?"
But is it true he made the Logan joke before she was sexually assaulted? I read that somewhere.
Who cares if he did?
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:26am.
A rape joke about Lara Logan isn't any less offensive if made before the fact.
MB, doncha know, there are degrees of offensiveness?
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:40am.
Why, if Maher made a joke about rape before it happened, it's just "funny", if he made it afterwards, Bal might be offended.
But, he defended cop killers, so I doubt he'd really be offended.
I'm sorry I worded that
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 12:40pm.
I'm sorry I worded that incorrectly. I thought the joke wasn't about rape but about trading Hasselbeck for Logan when Logan was held captive, and that he made this before Logan was raped.
That's such a ridiculous
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 12:44pm.
That's such a ridiculous rationalization I'm not even going to reply to it.
So was his joke a rape joke
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 1:29pm.
So was his joke a rape joke or a prisoner swap joke?
Reading comprehension 101
Submitted by Model850 on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 4:47pm.
Well, Bal, if you read the article closely enough and trust the author's reported timeline the answer is there for you to see:
"Hasselbeck brought up a tasteless rape joke Maher told earlier in the year on his Real Time show after the sexual assault of CBS correspondent Lara Logan as she reported from Egypt in which he suggested sending Hasselbeck to Egypt." (emphasis added)
Yeah, I read that.
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 5:15pm.
Yeah, I read that.
Model...Will you help us comprehend the following
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:34pm.
commentary from Fox Nation which accompanied the video of the Hasselbeck/Maher exchange on The View:
On the Feb. 4 episode of 'Real Time,' as the Egyptian protests in Tahrir Square were unfolding, Maher made the following joke about Logan and Hasselbeck. "New rule: now that Hosni Mubarak has released Lara Logan, he must put her intrepid hotness on a plane immediately. In exchange, we will send Elisabeth Hasselbeck." Over a week later, on Feb. 15, the public would learn that Logan had suffered a brutal sexual assault on Feb. 11 in Tahrir Square. When Maher told the joke, he couldn't have known that Logan had been raped.
Despite that timeline, Hasselbeck started the segment by reading the joke back to Maher, and asking if he still stood behind it. "Would you say that again, if you're so supportive of women?" [my emphasis in bold]
Jer
So, I take it
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:41pm.
You thought it funny? So Donkeyface didnt know, so what? Most folks would had taken her situation in consideration. How does that make him less of a creep?
Did I say anything about it being funny, Boudin?
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:51pm.
Take a hint from Model: Reading Comprehension 101.
Sheesh!
Jer
Hhmm, then why defend it?
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:01pm.
Or is it your better half your concerned about?
Yea, I saw that
What about my better half, Boudin?
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:21pm.
Did you completely misunderstand those comments, too?
As far as Maher: Defend it? Well, you see Boudin, I have this thing about accuracy. How about you?
Jer
I think you liked it.
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:26pm.
I also think you wish I was misrepresenting your comments? I also think accuracy for you is measured by the dump truck.
Since you told me previously you "don't fetch for liberals"...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:35pm.
this time I won't even bother to ask you to back up your accusations. I will say that I have absolutely no idea what your point is about "my better half". But troll on.
Jer
Thank you, Jer. I didn't
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:57pm.
Thank you, Jer. I didn't think Wilmouth was accurate in his assessment of the situation.
Jer and Balboa, I did my own
Submitted by Liberallies on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:11pm.
Jer and Balboa,
I did my own research on this. True, Logan's full story had not yet been made known to the public when he made the hateful joke against Hasselback.
However, as I kept on digging and doing research and after speaking with my friend of who is in military intelligence.
Logan was publicy informed that by going to Egypt during these demonstrations she was putting herself in grave risk from being captured and raped to being captured, raped and finally killed. Furthermore, again, as my military friend told me, you have to live in a box, be a lying Muslim or a Muslim apologist not to know what happens to Western women once captured by radical Muslim governments/movements. Everyone knew the second it was known that Logan was captured that she was either dead or would be released after being tortured, which of course includes rape. No one doubted that she if captured she would be raped. The unknown was whether she would be returned alive or in a body bag.
Bill Maher, who loves to claim how intelligent he is, knew full well these things when he made the completely hateful and disgusting joke. If he didn't, well we all know Maher isn't exactly the sharpest knife in the box.
You have to live in a box not to know what happens to Western women if captured by radical Muslims.
Jer, if you have this 'thing' about accuracy, ....
Submitted by acaiguana on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 8:02am.
The Democrats must drive you insane.
ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
A lot of them do, ACA,,,
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 8:17am.
Jer
Jer and Balboa, Are you
Submitted by Liberallies on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:49pm.
Jer and Balboa,
Are you both attempting to rationalize Bill Maher's misogynist joke? Whether it was about rape or "merely" prisoner exchange, you have to live in a box, be a lying Muslim or a Muslim apologist to deny what happens to Western women once they are imprisoned by the radicals.
What I am hearing from both of you is, "c'mon Conservatives. Maher's joke is no big deal. He wasn't talking about rape, he was talking about having Hasselback sent to Egypt and imprisoned there by Muslims who believe women are worth less than their camels."
If this is not what you are attempting to do, jer and balboa, by all means tell us all what it is you guys are attempting to do.
Let's put it this way, whether it was about rape OR "merely" prisoner exchange, it was beyond being poor taste. It was hateful, demeaning, disgusting, etc, etc, etc. Bill Maher is a misogynist who hates with a deep passion Republicans and Conservatives, especially Conservative women.
Liberallies...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:04pm.
I'll repeat what I explained to Boudin:
Well, you see Boudin, I have this thing about accuracy. How about you?
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2011/11/16/fnc-hosts-slam-mah...
and from my post below:
...my often repeated opinion of Maher that he is a towering a-hole who has no business having his own show where he can spew his inflammatory bilge.
However, having said that, folks should understand: IT WAS NOT A RAPE JOKE...and that fact can be easily ascertained in less than five minutes.
Wilmouth should either revise his headline or at the very least place a clarifying addendum in his article. As it stands, it is stunningly irresponsible reporting.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2011/11/16/fnc-hosts-slam-mah...
Jer
Jer, It was not a raped
Submitted by Liberallies on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:22pm.
Jer,
It was not a raped joke? really? This is the thing. Bill Maher could have easily told that to Ms. Hasselback and made her look like a fool, right? yeap. However, he didn't. He just wished he didn't make the joke so he didn't have to talk about it on The View.
If it wasn't a rape joke, Jer. Why didn't Bill Maher state as much vehemently while on The View? I have seen enough of Bill Maher, his old ABC show and too many of his HBO show to know that he would have NEVER allowed anyone to attack him for something he believes he never said or ment.
Are you honestly buying the fact that poor Mr. Maher does not know that Western women captured by crazy Muslims are not raped while in captivity? seriously?
At least you admit you don't like this clown, but I have a hard time believing what Bill Maher's apologist are saying. He would have said so himself on The View while doing everything in his power to put down Ms. Hasselback.
if you can rationally explain why he didn't make the claim you are making while on The View. I am with you.
what i am seeing is a Bill Maher who is following his fans and defenders and saying, "yes, yes, that is true. it wasn't a rape joke. My fans and defenders are telling me so!" Again, why didn't he make this claim while on The View?
If Bill Maher did not mean the joke to be about rape, he would have stated as much while on The View. AND he would have done it in a way to make Elizabeth Hasselback look like a fool. Instead, he became defensive and never once made the claim that now his fans and apologists are making.
sorry, not buying the afterthought of his fans and apologists.
So, how many days after the "joke" did the rape become public?
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:32pm.
And how many more days did hbo play donkeyfaces remarks?
Like you and others suggested, just knowing the hands she was in makes this very poor taste, but ol donkeyface doesn't, and never has let a nasty ass comment get in the way of cruel joke of strong independent Woman. But Jer and Bal just want to set the record straight, good grief.
I don't know, Liberallies...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:48pm.
maybe Maher didn't explain it because he didn't remember the chronology. He appeared to be caught off guard by Hasselback's grilling. Maybe it's because he is--as I believe him to be--a towering a-hole.
Whatever the reason, and no matter how distasteful Maher may be, it does not excuse an article which is misleading at best and flatly erroneous at worst to be published by NewsBusters. Fox Nation got it right. So should this website.
Jer
Jer, How is it not a rape
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 1:56am.
Jer,
How is it not a rape joke? Western women, in fact any woman, captured by radical Muslims, whether government or movement, are violently treated, which includes rape. This is a fact. It is part of history. Are you honestly suggesting that it is a leap of logic to claim that it was obvious Logan was going to be raped once captured?
And again, not buying the fact that AFTER Hasselback made a fool out of this hypocrite, which is a typical Liberal trait (at least in most Liberals), Maher's apologists are now claiming he didn't make a joke about rape.
1) When he said this disgusting thing back in February, he did not attack Conservatives for claiming a lie about what he said, right? Back in February this was a pretty big deal in the Conservative media, yes or no? Why didn't Bill Maher then tell Conservatives to relax, that it wasn't a rape joke? Are you seriously claiming that Bill Maher would have not used this as a great excuse to make idiots out of Conservatives?
2) Why didn't Bill Maher clarify on The View that it wasn't a rape joke? He was more than willing to make Hasselback look like a fool, right? No doubt you didn't miss the part in which he said he felt he was in high school. Thus, why not act as his usual self and make Hasselback look like a big idiotic Conservative for lying about his joke? Bill Maher didn't expect Hasselback to question him on this? He had from February until yesterday to come up with a defense. He never once said publicly that Hasselback and the Conservatives were lying. Now, yesterday late at night he claims that what his fans and apologists are saying is what he ment. Sorry, no go Jer.
Bill Maher's "Oh yes, what my fans and apologists are saying now is what I ment back in February..." defense is ridiculous at best.
Sorry Jer, NB's article is accurate. Bill Maher's joke was about rape. It was about having Hasselback being taken to an Egyptian prison where horrific, monstrous things happen to men and women. If you or Maher believe that rape is not one of them, then Liberals are much farther gone than I have believed until now.
double..
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 1:58am.
double..
Well Jer
Submitted by Model850 on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:10pm.
If you re-read my post to bal you'll note I included a CMA caveat: "Well, Bal, if you read the article closely enough and trust the author's reported timeline the answer is there for you to see." As an attorney you of all people should appreciate the value of a few well-placed weasel words.
I was unaware of the Fox Nation commentary and wasn't inclined to spend any time researching the history of the events. I was merely responding to bal's question about the timing, and pointed out that according to the article's author the answer had been provided.
Perhaps it was a bit snarky to title my post the way I did, but bal certainly has had worse thrown his way.
That said, I see no need to offer any "help" in comprehending the quotes you posted. They seem quite self-explanatory, and I'm sure even bal will face no difficulty in parsing them. ; - )
Then I'll assist with the comprehension...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 10:16pm.
first by noting my often repeated opinion of Maher that he is a towering a-hole who has no business having his own show where he can spew his inflammatory bilge.
However, having said that, folks should understand: IT WAS NOT A RAPE JOKE...and that fact can be easily ascertained in less than five minutes.
Wilmouth should either revise his headline or at the very least place a clarifying addendum in his article. As it stands, it is stunningly irresponsible reporting.
Jer
Do you search out buckets of poo to step in?
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 1:18am.
Do we need to label them or suntin?
Two weeks ago, when Hosni Mubarak still ruled his country at least titularly, Logan was detained by Egyptian police and expelled from the country.
So she was detained in an Egyptian prison possibly. Why, what were Egyptian prisons known for? Hmmmmm. So not so much a rape joke as saying Elizebeth Hasselback should be sent to an Egyptian prison where all kinds of nasties happen to both men and women that disagreed with the regime.
Ahhh. I see. It's cool. Wasn't so much a rape joke as the POTENTIAL for rape, torture, brutality, etc in an Egytian prison joke. Cool. Let's defend Maher round and round by claiming over and over that yeah, not a rape joke, not, just a vicious nasty joke from a vicious nasty turd izzal.
Hasselbeck is the token conservative on "The View," a daytime chat show. BI.com reports that she responded to Maher's jape with "an angry rant" on the Feb. 7 episode of the program:
"Notice how the audience laughs," said Barbara Walters, indicating that Maher's comment was a joke.
[Hasselbeck said, referring in the second person to Maher:] "You can hide anything in the cloak of a joke. It is unfair. It is chauvinistic what you said, and you'll probably run this again, and I find it disturbing--but also amusing--that I happen to be on your mind."
"It is wrong to do to any person, any woman, who just happens to disagree with you. You obviously missed the call of civility from our President Barack Obama, and you were on the other line with ignorance and hate."
Walters said: "I'm not sure it's about women--well, it is to women--but I think it's your politics."
Perhaps without meaning to, Walters gets to the heart of the matter. As with the deranged hatred of Sarah Palin--whom PoliticsDaily's Suzi Parker manages to blame in part for the attack on Logan!--left-wing politics too often serves as an excuse for, and a spur to, the expression of misogynistic attitudes. Where's Forrest Gump when we need him?
Misogynistic jokes. Cool beans as long as they ain't rape rape jokes.
That's the weakest comment you've posted in a long, long
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 5:59am.
time, Vet, and very surprising considering your customary attention to detail and analysis based on fact rather than conjecture. There is not a single word in your linked account about Maher's joke having anything whatsoever to do with rape, nor is there a single word even suggesting that Logan's 16-hour detention included incarceration in a prison where she was vulnerable to being raped. Yet you speculate that since it was "possible" that she may have been imprisoned she could perhaps have been exposed to physical assaults--because such attacks do occur in Egyptian prisons--it therefore legitimizes the "rape joke" accusation leveled against Maher. Allegations based on nothing more probative than a string of guesses and bare assumptions don't cut it.
Let's get something straight: I didn't defend Maher or his jokes. I can't stomach the son of a bitch. But pointing out that Maher's reference to Hasselback had nothing to do with the ACTUAL sexual assault on Logan--as conclusively demonstrated by the time line republished at Fox Nation, but about which Wilmouth had clearly implied a nexus in his blogged piece--is in no way tantamount to an endorsement of Maher's behavior. It is simply identifying a flaw in the NB article as it is worded as well as a serious contextual issue with its headline.
Jer
Jer, Again, if Bill Maher's
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 2:17pm.
Jer,
Again, if Bill Maher's joke was not about rape. Why didn't he state as much on The View? H e had Elizabeth Hasselback right next to him. All he needed to do is tell her, "You see Republicans are dumb and you are proving as much. The joke was never about rape since I did not know she had been raped!" VUALA!!!
Maher would have NEVER passed the opportunity to make a REpublican look like an idiot.
Nope Jer, you and Maher's apologists are wrong.
Bill Maher = douchebag Why
Submitted by helomech on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 11:38am.
Bill Maher = douchebag
Why are we still talking about this?
To make any comments concerning-rape/pedophiles etc-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 12:46pm.
are totally inappropriate and disgusting.
Billy-you are truly pushing it to the edge.
be careful someone does not push you over that edge.
you will not be missed.
no plans to buy the book
Submitted by kata on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 5:23pm.
watch the show, follow anything on the network that it supports, or give money to any cable provider that carries the network.
I think I have this one covered.
I agree with you 100 per cent. Maher is a despicable...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:51am.
human being and I don't even like calling him a human being because it brings shame to all of us other human beings.
Did Whoopie reply that it
Submitted by ant on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 8:05pm.
Did Whoopie reply that it wasn't really gang rape-rape?
Are these the same people that got Hank Williams Jr fired?
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Wed, 11/16/2011 - 9:54pm.
Trust me, it's only coincidence that I'm taking their advice.
What has happened to FOX?
Don't worry Brian. I would never consider buying a book...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Thu, 11/17/2011 - 4:49am.
from that wierdo.
I don't even subscribe to HBO because of him and I'd love to watch "Boardwalk Empire".