MSNBC's O'Donnell Theorizes Obama 'Manipulated' to Block Budget Deal While 'Pretending' to Want Compromise
On Friday’s Last Word, MSNBC host Lawrence O’Donnell advanced his belief that President Obama never had any desire for Republicans to accept the plan that he himself proposed because his strategy was to "manipulate" the process and appear willing to compromise, while at the same time insisting on tax increases to ensure that Republicans would never agree to his offer. O’Donnell further theorized that, because Republicans were about to agree to a tax increase similar to Obama’s proposal, the President changed his demands to deliberately derail negotiations.
During a segment with NBC correspondent Kristen Welker, O’Donnell observed:
So, to my eye, it was very easy for President Obama to appear - pretend even, if you will - that he was willing to negotiate all of these things that would be difficult for Democrats as long as he was demanding this one thing that he absolutely knew from the start was impossible for Republicans. And in a negotiation where nothing's agreed to until everything's agreed to, the President wasn't agreeing to anything.
A bit later, while speaking with NBC correspondent Kelly O’Donnell, Lawrence O’Donnell added:
They [Republicans] then claimed the President, having reached that agreement with them, then asked for a bigger revenue increase, which they absolutely couldn't do. That would look like, if that's the way it played out, that would look like, in the end, the President making sure they didn't get a deal.
During an interview with Democratic Congressman Chris Van Hollen, the MSNBC host further suggested that President Obama had "manipulated" the negotiations and had won the public "perception" battle:
He didn't get the big deal, but he got the perception that he wanted it, and now he doesn't have to live with any of the politically painful consequences of the big deal. That looks like a big win for the President, and it looks like a perfectly manipulated process by the President from beginning to end.
Below is a transcript of relevant portions of the Friday, July 22, Last Word on MSNBC:
LAWRENCE O’DONNELL: Well, Kristen, I’ve been saying for a couple of weeks, there was no hope of a grand bargain, that all of this was a mirage, given that each side had a specific thing that they absolutely would not do, and the other side wouldn’t do, you know, wouldn’t do it, so they were going to be stuck on taxes from the start. So, to my eye, it was very easy for President Obama to appear - pretend even, if you will - that he was willing to negotiate all of these things that would be difficult for Democrats as long as he was demanding this one thing that he absolutely knew from the start was impossible for Republicans. And in a negotiation where nothing’s agreed to until everything’s agreed to, the President wasn’t agreeing to anything.
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The Boehner news conference was fascinating. He didn’t want to - it seemed at the beginning he didn’t want to specify a number. He said we agreed to a number on revenues, which I found shocking enough, and then later he said it was $800 billion in revenue increases that he and Eric Cantor agreed to. They then claimed the President, having reached that agreement with them, then asked for a bigger revenue increase, which they absolutely couldn’t do. That would look like, if that’s the way it played out, that would look like, in the end, the President making sure they didn’t get a deal.
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I see a President get a deal - an outcome, I should say - that is the best political outcome he could possibly get, which is the perception of him as the only reasonable man, the one who is willing to compromise and go against his party if necessary on some very difficult things, and he fought and fought and fought, and pushed and pushed and pushed, and wanted the big deal. Even after Eric Cantor walked out, he wanted the big deal. Even after all these breakdowns in the negotiations, he wanted the big deal. He was the only one who wanted the big deal, and he pushed that all the way to the end, and he didn’t get the big deal, but he got the perception that he wanted it, and now he doesn’t have to live with any of the politically painful consequences of the big deal. That looks like a big win for the President, and it looks like a perfectly manipulated process by the President from beginning to end.
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Did Barry even HAVE a
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 9:52pm.
Did Barry even HAVE a plan...........or did he just walk in every day and throw out whatever he could to make sure that nothing was going to work??? Just so he could go to the press and bitch and moan and pout like the petulant little prick that he is???
B
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:13pm.
The worse things are economically, the better shot he and his czars have of implementing a grander plan. Can you IMAGINE if Democrats still had the majorities in both Congressional chambers that they did for the first 2 years?
Number one, we wouldn't be having a debt discussion. They'd simply raise it. No cuts, no tax increases, nothing. Yet they're all over tax increases now. And they wouldn't just raise it. No, they'd raise it enough to implement more spending, yet enough to ensure that no matter how much spending they kept doing, it would still last until after the 2012 elections.
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Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 9:56pm.
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Yeah Baby!
Submitted by River City on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:00pm.
Mr. O'Donnell nailed it. Bet he gets called on the carpet tomorrow morning. The whitehouse won't be happy with this. But, unfortunately O'Donnell getting fired or suspended won't change reality. The whitehouse doesn't want a deal. They want chaos. I'm glad someone finally saw what we could see all along. Obama doesn't want a deal.
"Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of causality--the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind." Ayn Rand
Hard to believe
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:21pm.
....I am agreeing with Lawrence the Terrible.
You are right, this is NOT going to sit well with Obama and Co, having his designs exposed by a media partner.
O'Donnell may be right but he
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:00pm.
O'Donnell may be right but he says nothing that would suggest he is at all repulsed by Obama's lying, maneuvering, and double crossing - all for political advantage and gain. I think O'Donnell probably thinks Obama's deceitful charade is "brilliant" politics.
True
Submitted by River City on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:17pm.
You are right and that's why he didn't hesitate to put it out there as what he theorizes is the way Obama is playing this. They all see him as brilliant & the best politician in our time. Whatever is good for Obama is good for everyone in their minds. How short sighted they are.
"Money is the scourge of the men who attempt to reverse the law of causality--the men who seek to replace the mind by seizing the products of the mind." Ayn Rand
Just remember how the MSM
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:20pm.
Just remember how the MSM used to fawn over der Schlickmeister's ability to lie............and when he scammed or double-crossed the Republicans........the MSM always made him look like he was the one who came out on top. So this is standard operating procedure for the MSM - they NEED to do it, because they are complicit in the whole lie and scam themselves.
Amazing, how the MSM is
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:42pm.
Amazing, how the MSM is openly admiring of Democratic political chicanery and sanctimoniously negative towards any Republican political maneuvering - no matter how common place.
If these statements were made
Submitted by MikeB on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:13pm.
If these statements were made on an PMSNBC show, nothing will be done because no one saw/heard it, beyond O'Donnell's family. It's like the old philosophical question, "If a man makes a statement and there's no woman around to hear it, is he still wrong?"
Wow just like the Blues
Submitted by jkwtrading on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:17pm.
Wow just like the Blues Brothers O' Donnell saw the light. lol...
Typical Chicago Politics
Submitted by Avitar on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:24pm.
As long as you don't care about the country what Larry O' Donnell proposes makes perfect sense tactically.
O'Donnell: "That looks like
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 10:29pm.
O'Donnell: "That looks like a big win for the President, and it looks like a perfectly manipulated process by the President from beginning to end."
And a win for the President is a loss for America. Its all about him first, middle, and last. America be damned. The first win that was a loss for America was November 2008.
Any President who says he wants to "fundamentally transform" the USA, is not to be trusted when it comes to affairs of the USA, and should not be mayor of a town, much less President of the United States.
Obama is playing congress and the American people for fools
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:06am.
Obama wants this country to hit the skids, and is doing all he can to bring that about, even as he pretends to by trying to turn it around.
He isn't trying.
Not even a little bit.
It's chaos he wants, as that serves his purposes when it comes to bringing his plan to full fruition.
And don't kid yourself - Obama does have a plan, and he has been implementing it since Jan. 20, 2009.
He cares nothing for this country, nor the people in it. He wan't raised as an American, and was taught from an early age to hate and despise this country.
He is only interested in putting us in our place once and for all.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Well, no shit, Sherlock!
Submitted by johnsonl on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:39am.
Where'd you park the squad car? What's the WH mantra? "Never waste a crisis!"
This is why I like Lawrence
Submitted by amyshulk on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:44am.
This is why I like Lawrence O’Donnell - he says what he sees. The fact that he's an admitted socialist and speaks in such glowing terms:
"That looks like a big win for the President, and it looks like a perfectly manipulated process by the President from beginning to end."
Should be a BIG red flag, but that it isn't? Speaks to what the D's have devolved to.
Ronald Reagan
It was only a matter of time ...
Submitted by Par for the Course on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 6:49am.
It was only a matter of time before we all were thrown under the bus.
Has Lawarence been into the sauce again?
Submitted by Dan In SC on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 7:14am.
Why does this guy sound like he's making sense? I think I just fried my circuit board.
Manipulation or sagotage?
Submitted by tominhouston on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:58am.
From the perspective of political commentary, manipulation is a handy word to have around.
From the perspective of the American people, sobotage is more accurate.