MSNBC’s Fineman Gushes Over Clinton News Conference, Most Americans Accept Obama ‘As a Member of the Family’
On Sunday’s syndicated Chris Matthews Show, panel member and MSNBC analyst Howard Fineman - also of the Huffington Post - made the over the top assertion that "10 to 20 percent" of Americans will "continue to hate and fear" President and Mrs. Obama, but that the rest have "accepted" President Obama "as a member of the family." And when host Matthews asked who was the biggest winner of the year, Fineman gushed over former President Bill Clinton’s recent return to the podium in the White House press room, with Matthews referring to Clinton’s visit as the "second coming":
HOWARD FINEMAN: Unfortunately, I wasn't there when he came in.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: For the moment, the second coming.
FINEMAN: He, Bill Clinton walks in, and easy as pie for the next half hour explains what real life in Washington, in politics is all about.
After agreeing with Time’s Joe Klein that health care reform was the "worst move of [President Obama’s] first two years," and that the unpopular reforms keep dragging down his popularity, Fineman contended that Obama had, by contrast, been successful in getting Americans to like him personally, describing the President as being like "a member of the family," and surprisingly characterized Obama’s "background" as "strange." Fineman:
I think one other thing that he did that overall is good is that he made himself more familiar to the American people as a person and as a family. The polls show that the, what people like best about Barack Obama is his personality, his equitable personality, and the fact that he's a family guy. There are gonna be 10 or 20 percent of the American people who are going to continue to hate and fear him and his wife. But everybody else has kind of accepted him for better or worse as a member of the family. And that's a key, key thing for a guy who came out of nowhere with this strange background, etc.
The BBC’s Katty Kay agreed: "You can never go wrong with Bill Clinton, so I'm joining Howard."
Below is a transcript of the relevant portion of the Sunday, December 26, syndicated Chris Matthews Show:
JOE KLEIN, TIME MAGAZINE: Health care. It was at variance with what the American people really cared about, which was jobs. You know, it was the worst move of his first two years.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: Put it all together, Howard. You start here, putting together the bad and the good.
HOWARD FINEMAN, HUFFINGTON POST: I agree with Joe on health care. That’s the gift that keeps on taking. I mean, it keeps, it keeps reducing his (President Obama’s) standing, it keeps him becoming less and less popular. But beyond all that, I think one other thing that he did that overall is good is that he made himself more familiar to the American people as a person and as a family. The polls show that the, what people like best about Barack Obama is his personality, his equitable personality, and the fact that he’s a family guy. There are gonna be 10 or 20 percent of the American people who are going to continue to hate and fear him and his wife. But everybody else has kind of accepted him for better or worse as a member of the family. And that’s a key, key thing for a guy who came out of nowhere with this strange background, etc.
KLEIN: They just want him a little bit more in their lives and talking about the things that they really care about.
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FINEMAN: We’re missing the most obvious one, and he is obviousness personified, Bill Clinton, okay, when he came into the, I spend a lot of time over at the press room these days. Unfortunately, I wasn’t there when he came in.
CHRIS MATTHEWS: For the moment, the second coming.
FINEMAN: He, Bill Clinton walks in, and easy as pie for the next half hour explains what real life in Washington, in politics is all about.
MATTHEWS: Which is?
FINEMAN: Which is take the deal, okay? Take the deal, otherwise you go down the drain. Just take the deal. And he’s got all the gestures, the whole thing. It was just, it was just a reprise. And Clinton was so happy to be, so happy to be there.
KATTY KAY, BBC: You can never go wrong with Bill Clinton, so I’m joining Howard. Why not?
FINEMAN: Why not?
KAY: I’m jumping off on your menu.
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Comments
yeah, the one no one ever talks about
Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:07pm.
pardon the pun but he would definitely be the black sheep in my family
BHO
Submitted by sarge329 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 10:06pm.
I'm not aware that BHO was a member of my family. Never even met the man. So, why should I accept a " columnist's " view that the current occupant of my White House is or should be looked upon as normal? Why should I accept the view of a " columnist " about anything? I don't trust anyone in the LSM about anything. Honesty, integrity, and the LSM are mutually exclusive.
But the really big question
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:22pm.
But the really big question is if it's Bush's tax cuts that are being extended wouldn't it have made more sense for George Bush to have taken over the podium from obama instead of Bill Clinton?
No one dislikes him
Submitted by Edhenry on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:40pm.
No one dislikes him personally. If he was a typical over the top, ultra liberal communist representing a corrupt state, no one would care. But as President....
It is his policies, agenda, appointments, affiliations, political connectons, unfunded mandates, deficits, foriegn policy, apologetic speeches, inexperience, cabinet members, czars, supreme court appointment, job killing & unconstitutional legislation and EPA over-regulation that people dislike/hate/fear/worry to the point of buying gold.
The irrelevant media doesn't get it, or they are shilling for him, ignoring the clear signs of POLICY, not personal, rejection.
And they will continue to reject these poilicies through 2012
I don't think obama is some
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 6:01pm.
I don't think obama is some evil mastermind. I think he is simply an out of touch elitist with a poor education about the real world. We have lot's of them in government and education. The problem with obama is he still thinks like an academic in that he believes that a 'smart' person can control for variables when it comes to governming. Take for instance the food Nazis war on soda pop. They believe if they put a tax on soda that will discourage consumption thereby producing the desired effect they want which is lower obesity. Wrong. Because they don't know the people they are dealing with the result of raising a tax on something the people want will be to lower the available money they have to spend on real food or clothes or medical care or household repairs or trips to parks and museums.
Marxism
Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 8:23pm.
He was raised by communists, and communism is a very evil practice. Anyone who wants to push that on people is automatically evil.
Where does the line show up between deliberate and incompetent when the Chairman himself ordered Janet to do those things involving "security" at the airports? Janet herself said she's going to expand that to include hotels and shopping malls. These are things that are right out of history's Nazi Germany when the Gestapo came into being with their tactics.
People who see things like this and comparing it to Hitler are often made fun of, called paranoid and etc. They know their history. It IS repeating. All these things happening is just forms of control, we know there's no real "security" at all with this. The US Constitution has been all but shredded and it's been spat on many times in the last 2 years.
Where does it end? When will it end? Every day seems to be a little worse than the last. This is not paranoia talking. They KNOW what they are doing.
-Jon
Well, its a good thing one of
Submitted by bassndude on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 5:52pm.
Well, its a good thing one of my daughters did drag him home to my house.
One thing those girls learned early on, you dont take a liberal to Dad's house.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal/troll!!
Hmmm
Submitted by HelenS on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 6:06pm.
I've never actually thought that someone who induces hives or nausea was a good candidate for my family. But mostly because I have such a wonderful family.
Maybe some people have such abysmal relatives that this freak would be an improvement?
Could be, I s'pose.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Fineman is a JOKE
Submitted by ConservaSerb on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 7:42pm.
How does a guy who has an AB from Colgate and an MS from Columbia end up going to a law school in Louisville?
He is the same piece of shiite that:
****
In his interview with Keith Olbermann on MSNBC regarding the 2010 Senate special election in Massachusetts, Fineman commented on Scott Brown's TV ads:
"Maybe not in Massachusetts, but maybe in some places, there are codes, there are images, ah, you know, there are pickup trucks, uh, you could say there was a racial aspect to it one way or another.
****
So EVERYTHING he disagrees with gets spun as racist. Phugg him. And his pals.
A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
Who?
Submitted by Utherpend on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 11:24am.
Who went to school in Louisville?
If you say he went to U of L then his law degree is really a joke since U of L is more concerned with who to buy for their Basketball team next year than they are with actually teaching or providing quaility educaton.
Uhhhhh.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 7:41pm.
Barak Almost-A-Cowboy....mmm, mmm, mmm.
I don't think so.
It depends on your definition of 'family'...
Submitted by Sasquatch on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 8:20pm.
From Merriam-Webster, definition #8 of 'family' is: 'A unit of a crime syndicate (as the Mafia) operating within a geographical area.' When used in that context, Mr. Fineman is 100% correct...Member of the family????
Submitted by JPR1 on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 8:20pm.
The ‘strange background’ part rings loud for me. Phony sob.
Sscchkk-chkkk… ‘Get off my lawn!’
Tingles twice a day on MSNBC is not enough
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 8:21pm.
He must also be "syndicated." Isn't that like syndicating E. boli??
Well, the good news for Fineman is that Katty the K has declared herself a menu item... mangia, Howie!
That's a rather presumptuous
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 8:44pm.
That's a rather presumptuous statement considering 20% of America flat out believe he is lying about even being an American, while 23% state they haven't been presented with enough proof to make a final decision one way or the other.
This is just one more ploy by the communication arm ( lame street media ) of the Obama Socialist Regime hoping if enough of them repeat a lie enough times, some moron might actually start to believe it.
Barack_Must_Go.....
The Crazy Uncle
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 1:39am.
Obama IS like a member of the family. He's just like that crazy uncle that every family has but none wants to let out in public, let alone give him the keys to the family car.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
it's a funny line
Submitted by malthus on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 3:39am.
That's what his Grandmother did.
Opinons Vary
Submitted by Utherpend on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 11:31am.
Like the one that I don't personally like the Pretender in Chief, no matter how many times drones like these tell me I am suppose to. Never liked Clinton either, I knew he was a lying S.O.B. when I first saw him and his smug smile on TV.
Member of the family? Get off it
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 12/28/2010 - 1:36pm.
Once again, Fineman is out of touch with reality. The honeymoon with Obama is long over, and the only place it has for revitalization is among the MSM elite, as witnessed with their declaration of a "resurrection" and "the comeback kid" following the passing of DADT and the unemployment extension. It's like a basketball team finally scoring after the other team has scored 30 unanswered points. His popularity is still down; his party has lost control of the House; and WH insiders have told reporterts that Obama and company have no plan.
KATTY KAY, BBC: You can never go wrong with Bill Clinton, . . . ?
Mrs. Bill Clinton may have a different opinion.