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On Thursday's Countdown show shortly before 9:00 p.m., just an hour before hosting a special Countdown to discuss CNN's Democratic debate from that night, MSNBC host Keith Olbermann delivered his latest "Special Comment," this time attacking President Bush for threatening to veto a new FISA law if Congress refuses to include liability protection for telecom companies that have assisted in surveillance in the war on terrorism, arguing that Bush would be endangering Americans by delaying the bill's passage. The MSNBC host, who once scolded public figures who use Nazi references, made his own latest invocation of Nazi Germany, as he compared the telecoms to the Krupp family who were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg. Olbermann: "It begins to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp family industrial giants by literally rewriting the laws of Germany for their benefit. And we know how that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his directors were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg." (Transcript follows)
Olbermann also included a response to former Bush Chief-of-Staff Andy Card's criticism of Olbermann's and Chris Matthews' "cynical" attitude toward Monday's State of the Union Address:
Clearly, Bush is at his hyperbolic worst here. Consider how his former Chief of Staff, Andy Card, came on and scolded Chris Matthews and me after the State of the Union Address. "The President's address tonight was very important," Card said, "because it really was a sobering call to reality for us. And the reality is we have an enemy who wants to hurt us. The primary job of the President is to protect us. He talked about protecting us. He talked about the needs to have the tools to protect us."
The Countdown host, who recently admitted to sometimes recusing himself from interviewing certain Republicans, deferring to Matthews, because of Olbermann's past criticisms of them, on Monday night did not take part in interviewing Card, and did not respond after Card called out Olbermann and Matthews during a live interview. Card from Monday: "I can't tell you how cynical you two sound, and almost every guest you've had on has been very cynical. You can't even find an objective skeptic to interview."
Olbermann concluded his Thursday "Special Comment":
The eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no impact on counterterrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist threat, the thwarting of which could hinge on an e-mail or a phone call that's going through room 641A at AT&T in San Francisco next week or next month. Because if there were, Mr. Bush, and you were to, by your own hand, veto an extension of this eavesdropping and some terrorist attack were to follow, you would not merely be guilty of siding with the terrorists, you would not merely be guilty of prioritizing the telecoms over the people, you would not merely be guilty of stupidity, you would not merely be guilty of treason, sir, but you would be personally and eternally responsible. And if there is one thing we know about you, Mr. Bush, one thing that you have proved time and time again under any and all circumstances, it is that you are never responsible. Good night and good luck.
Below is a complete transcript of Olbermann's "Special Comment" from the Thursday January 31 Countdown show on MSNBC:
And finally tonight, as promised, a "Special Comment" of FISA and the telecoms. In a presidency of hypocrisy, an administration of exploitation, a labyrinth of leadership, in which every vital fact is a puzzle inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden under a claim of executive privilege supervised by an idiot, this one is surprisingly easy. President Bush has put protecting the telecom giants from the laws ahead of protecting you from the terrorists. He has demanded an extension of the FISA law, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, but only an extension that includes retroactive immunity for the telecoms who helped him spy on you. Congress has given him, and he has today signed, a 15-day extension which simply kicks the time bomb down the field, and which has changed nothing of his insipid rhetoric, in which he portrays the Democrats as soft on terror and getting in the way of his superhuman efforts to protect the nation when, in fact, and with bitter irony, if anybody is soft on terror right now, it is Mr. Bush.
In the State of the Union Address, sir, you told Congress if you do not act by Friday, our ability to track terrorist threats would be weakened, and our citizens will be in greater danger. Yet, you are willing to weaken that ability. You will subject us, your citizens, to that greater danger. This, Mr. Bush, is simple enough even for you to understand. If Congress approves a new FISA act without telecom immunity and sends it to your desk and you veto it, you by your own terms and your own definitions, you will have just sided with the terrorists. You gotta have this law or we're all going to die, but you might veto this law.
It's bad enough, sir, that you are demanding an ex post facto law which would clear the phone giants from responsibility for their systematic, aggressive, and blatant collaboration with your illegal and unjustified spying on Americans under this flimsy guise of looking for any terrorists who are stupid enough to make a collect call or send a mass email. but when you then demand it again in the State of the Union Address, that Congress retroactively clear the Verizons and the AT&T's, you wouldn't even confirm that they actually did anything for which they deserve to be cleared. The Congress must pass liability protection for companies "believed" to have assisted in the efforts to defend America.
Believe?! Don't you know? Does the endless hair-splitting of your presidential fine print extend even here? If you, sir, are asking Congress and us to join you in this shameless, breathless literal textbook example of fascism, the merged efforts of government and corporations who answer to no government, you still don't have the guts to say the telecom companies did assist you in your efforts. Will you and the equivocators who surround you like a cocoon who never go on the record about anything, even the stuff you claim to believe in?
Silly me. Of course Mr. Bush is going to say "believed." Yes, it sounds dumber than if he referred to himself as the "alleged President," or had said today was "reportedly Thursday," or had claimed "mission accomplished" in Iraq. But the moment he does say anything else, any doubt that the telecoms knowingly broke the law is out the window and with it, any chance that even the Republicans who are fighting this like they were trying to fend off terrorists using nothing but broken beer bottles and swear words could not consent to retroactively immunize corporate criminals. Which is why the Vice President probably shouldn't have phoned into the Rush Limbaugh propaganda festival yesterday. Sixth sentence out of Mr. Cheney's mouth: The FISA bill is about, quote, "retroactive liability protection for the companies that have worked with us and helped us prevent further attacks against the United States."
Oops. Mr. Cheney is something of a loose cannon, of course, but he kind of let the wrong cat out of the bag there because Mr. Bush and the corporations that he values more than people, did not want anybody to verify what Mark Klein says. Mark Klein is the AT&T whistle blower who appeared on this newscast last November, who explained in the placid, dull terms of your local neighborhood IT desk how he personally attached all of AT&T's circuits, everything, carrying every phone call, every e-mail, every bit of Web browsing, into a secure room, room number 641A at the Folsom Street facility in San Francisco, where it was all copied so the government could look at it. Not some of it, not just the international part of it, certainly not just the stuff some truly patriotic and telepathic spy might be able to divine had been sent or spoken by or to a terrorist -- everything. Every time you looked at a naked picture, every time you bid on eBay. Every time you phoned in a donation to a Democrat. "My thought was George Orwell's 1984," Mr. Klein told me, reflecting back, "and here I am, forced to connect the 'big brother machine.'"
You know, Mr. Bush, if Mr. Klein's "big brother machine," the one the Vice President conveniently just confirmed for us, if it was of any damn use at all at actually finding anything, you could probably program it to find out who started that slanderous e-mail about Barack Obama. Use room 641A to identify that e-assassin, sir, and I'll stand up and applaud you. Yeah, I'm holding my breath on that one, too. But, of course, sir, this isn't about finding that kind of needle in a hay stack. This is not even about finding a haystack. This is about scooping up every piece of hay there ever was and laying the ground work for the next little job which you have to outsource to AT&T and Verizon and all the rest.
It was your Director of National Intelligence, Mr. McConnell, letting this one out of that same bag. The need for Homeland Security to stave off cyber attacks against the government's computer networks. And how do they do that, sir? By constantly monitoring the Internet -- the whole Internet. And who actually physically does that, Mr. Bush? Right. The same telecom giants for whom you want immunity quickly, so quickly you wouldn't believe it, because this previous domestic spying, and this upcoming policing of the Internet, they may be completely evil, indiscriminate, unlawful, so you have to dress it all up as something opposite. It's isn't evil, it's, you said, "to protect America." It isn't indiscriminate, you said it's "the ability to monitor terrorist communications." It isn't unlawful, it's just the kind of perfectly legal thing for which you happen to need immunity.
There's yet another level to this, and here we move from big brother to sleazy son. Mr. Bush's new Attorney General, Mr. Mukasey, the one who's already taken four different positions on waterboarding, and who may yet tie that record on this subject of telecom immunity, he has a very personal stake in all this. There happens to be a partner in the law firm of Bracewell and Giuliani named Mark Mukasey. And Bracewell and Giuliani and the Attorney General's son Mark just happen to represent Verizon. You know, Verizon, telecom giant. And all of a sudden, this is no longer just a farce in which protecting the telecoms is dressed up as protecting us from terrorist conference calls. Now it begins to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp family industrial giants by literally rewriting the laws of Germany for their benefit. And we know how that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his directors were convicted of war crimes at Nuremberg.
Nevertheless, for those of us watching a President demand this specific law, the ones the Germans had was called the Lechs Krupp, there is one surprising bit of comfort in all of this. Clearly, Bush is at his hyperbolic worst here. Consider how his former Chief of Staff, Andy Card, came on and scolded Chris Matthews and me after the State of the Union Address. "The President's address tonight was very important," Card said, "because it really was a sobering call to reality for us. And the reality is we have an enemy who wants to hurt us. The primary job of the President is to protect us. He talked about protecting us. He talked about the needs to have the tools to protect us."
Indeed, Mr. Bush. The primary job of any President is to protect us, not just those of us who own Internet and telephone companies, but all of us. And even you, sir, with your intermittent grasp of reality, even with your ego greater than 100 percent approval rating, even with your messianic petulance, even you could not truly choose to protect the corporations instead of the people. I'm not talking about ethics here. I am talking about blame. Even if it's you throwing out the baby with the bath water, Mr. Bush, it still means we can safely conclude there is no baby. There is not a choice of protecting the telecoms from prosecution or protecting the people from terrorists, sir. There is a choice of protecting the telecoms from prosecution or pretending to protect the people from terrorists.
Sorry, Mr. Bush, the eavesdropping provisions of FISA have obviously had no impact on counterterrorism, and there is no current or perceived terrorist threat, the thwarting of which could hinge on an e-mail or a phone call that's going through room 641A at AT&T in San Francisco next week or next month. Because if there were, Mr. Bush, and you were to, by your own hand, veto an extension of this eavesdropping and some terrorist attack were to follow, you would not merely be guilty of siding with the terrorists, you would not merely be guilty of prioritizing the telecoms over the people, you would not merely be guilty of stupidity, you would not merely be guilty of treason, sir, but you would be personally and eternally responsible. And if there is one thing we know about you, Mr. Bush, one thing that you have proved time and time again under any and all circumstances, it is that you are never responsible. Good night and good luck.
—Brad Wilmouth is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




And finally tonight, as promised, a "Special Comment" of FISA and the telecoms. In a presidency of hypocrisy, an administration of exploitation, a labyrinth of leadership, in which every vital fact is a puzzle inside a riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden under a claim of executive privilege supervised by an idiot, this one is surprisingly easy. President Bush has put protecting the telecom giants from the laws ahead of protecting you from the terrorists. He has demanded an extension of the FISA law, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, but only an extension that includes retroactive immunity for the telecoms who helped him spy on you. Congress has given him, and he has today signed, a 15-day extension which simply kicks the time bomb down the field, and which has changed nothing of his insipid rhetoric, in which he portrays the Democrats as soft on terror and getting in the way of his superhuman efforts to protect the nation when, in fact, and with bitter irony, if anybody is soft on terror right now, it is Mr. Bush.















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IF IT WERE TRUE BT BOY
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 07:51 ET by Der AlteIf Bath Tub Boy's argument was true (but it can't be becaue Bush & Chaney made up the terror war so nothings going to happen) and this was the Third Reich then I can't wait for him to be taken into "protective custody" in the middle of the night. And if it were like then, if someone were to ask about him the response would be "we have no one with that name"! Ah, if it were only ture, Jerk!
The "MISTER METER" was running high
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:51 ET by kgThe "MISTER METER" was running high. But only on "OlbyPlanet".
ROLFLMAO
That's it send in the moving
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 07:55 ET by tkeefeThat's it send in the moving vans ship this ignorant bitch over to the middle east and let him praise his Muslim god in someone else's country!!!!!! I must ask is there nothing that can be done with this man he is not on the floor of the senate he does not get immunity for his traitorous statements.
BATH-TUB-BOY...
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 08:46 ET by danybhoytkeefe,
You are overreacting a bit about sending him abroad. BathTubBoy is a conflicted man who acts out, many people do this. Most people don't have the chance to do it on national TV, with the exception of Rosie. Let him spew his hate, watch him melt down, he has that right. His bosses need to be held accountable in the end, & those signing his paychecks need to decide if BathTubBoy & most of the MSNBC staff, & NBC news as a whole are representing General Electric in a professional manner. I don't think so, & I refuse to buy GE products because of it. I may never go back either.
I notice that both you & BathTubBoy use the word traitor, & I think it is overused. I'm not sure if BathTubBoy is a traitor, I don't think he hates America, but he hates himself. He also hates Bush & almost all conservative thoughts/ideas. He is not really open to descent, that makes him a facist, not a traitor. John Walker Lindh (the American Taliban)& those at the NYT who expose our methods to the world & our enemies. Like the NSA program. I am bothered that these examples have not been prosicuted as treason, or those who leak classified info, like Joe & Val Wilson, or Sen.Leahy. The fact that Julius & Ethel Rosenberg are the last people exicuted for treason pisses me off. That was in 1953, too long ago, traitors need to be treated as such & dealt with.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
I couldn't even get past
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 08:04 ET by motherbeltI couldn't even get past the first paragraph, his introduction of the topic.
And finally tonight, as promised, a "Special Comment" of FISA
"As promised"????? What, did he advertise days in advance....stay tuned!!! I'm going to do a very special "Special Comment" on.....I promise!!!
In a presidency of hypocrisy, an administration of exploitation, a
labyrinth of leadership, in which every vital fact is a puzzle inside a
riddle wrapped in an enigma hidden under a claim of executive privilege
supervised by an idiot,......
oh, just the introduction has me swooning.....
Has anyone ever timed one of his "special comments"?
I have never seen anyone so enamoured of himself. I'll bet he goes home and watches videos of himself doing this....
The man's self-absorption is just amazing.
I'll bet he goes home and
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:36 ET by UphillI'll bet he goes home and watches videos of himself doing this....
...while naked and with a bag of Cheetos...
I can almost hear the sneering
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 08:31 ET by landshark"It begins to look like the bureaucrats of the Third Reich trying to protect the Krupp family industrial giants by literally rewriting the laws of Germany for their benefit. And we know how that turned out. Alfred Krupp and 11 of his directors were convicted of war crimes at Nuremburg."
Does he think that this sort of thing makes him sound smart? Oh yes, we all know how that turned out - and if anyone in the audience doesn't know (leftists don't seem particularly well-versed in history after all), then obviously you're not as intellectual as the baseball collecter who is reading this stuff from a teleprompter.
Yes, he does think it makes
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 08:41 ET by motherbeltYes, he does think it makes him sound smart. In his mind, "number of words, plus grave countenance, plus somber tone, equals intelligence."
And the smart glasses.
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:33 ET by Hero SquadAnd the smart glasses. Don't forget how intelligent his glasses make him look. That's half his IQ right there.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Hero, The best part about
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:37 ET by LeonHero,
The best part about the Newsbusters Olbermann hate is that every single male on this board used to love him when he did Sportscenter.
I'll bet a lot of them
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:51 ET by Hero SquadI'll bet a lot of them admired O.J. Simpson before he killed his wife and Ron Goldman, too.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Ummmm... I never watch
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:52 ET by BDUmmmm... I never watch ESPN. Sorry.
FUNNY...
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 10:04 ET by danybhoyBD,
I almost never do either, way too much baseball, basketball, & college football for me to care about ESPN. They do have some NFL, US Natl. Soccer, Champions League Soccer, & Golf that I will tune in, but those don't add up to the time on baseball, hoops, & college football combined though.
It's good thing I have about 200 channels...
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
As usual, you don't know
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:56 ET by mattmLeon, As usual, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. I, for one, never even heard of the puke until frequenting this site.
But then, that's just another typical subject-changing side-non-issue meant to deflect the discussion and (not so) cleverly denigrate anyone who criticizes Leftist hate-mongering flamethrowers like your pal Olbermental.
You sound like you loved Bush as a rancher
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:59 ET by kgYou sound like you loved Bush as a rancher.
Nope
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 10:38 ET by landsharkWe don't get ESPN up here, so I was blissfully unaware of Keith Olbermann's existence until a little over a year ago. It took me a little longer to realize that he wasn't kidding.
For the record; I don't hate him. I just think he's a brainless buffoon - an assessment borne out by the facts, I think.
For the record; when I asked if he thought this sort of thing made him sound smart, I specifically referring to the somewhat obscure reference to the Krupp family. Not many people would understand that, which is why I found it amusing that he tagged it with "we all know how that turned out". I'm betting that when Keith first heard of the Krupp family he was thinking "I really like The Sound of Music.....".
So what?
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:48 ET by KC MulvilleSports are entertainment, but public affairs matter. When Don Rickles appears on TV and insults everyone around him, many people (including me) think he's often very funny.
Give me a second here to explain my point. The cheapest path to promoting yourself is to put everyone else down. The media is always tempted to take an "above-it-all" approach, trying to sit in judgment. Romney's comment should be directed at the media: "Where do you get the right to be the expert on my position?" Where does Dan Rather get the right to pass judgment and say that Bush was "selected" instead of elected? Where does Peter Jennings get the right to tell the country that we're having a "tantrum?" Where does Olbermann get to insult people as "Worst Person in the World?" Who the hell are they?
I've said this before, Leon. I don't always agree with you, but I respect the fact that when you post something (especially when you know it goes against the majority), you show enough backbone to defend your comments. I may not agree with your comments or your defense, but I respect your willingness to answer for what you say.
Why should I approve of this coward insulting everyone?
HERO SQUAD...
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:43 ET by danybhoyHe stole the glasses from Ashleigh Banfield, that chick from Canuckistan who used to be on MSNBC years ago...
As for your tagline from George Will, that says it all when applied to the "global warming" debate.
"Some of us are wise, some of us are otherwise" Mark Levin
Telcos
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 08:47 ET by funkdomeTelcos are among the largest purchasers of advertising. I wonder how they feel about one of their ad outlets comparing them with war criminals.
The most nauseating thing about this guy...
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:40 ET by krendlerThe most nauseating thing about this guy is his self-promotion as the 2nd coming of Edward R. Murrow and that he's "funnier than Jon Stewart". Olbermann's a 2nd rate sportcaster who's completely lost without a teleprompter and his yes-men guests nodding in agreement with every "BUSH IS HITLER" special comment he makes.
I like the laughable explanation he gave recently that he doesn't have conservatives on because things once got too contentious between a liberal guest and a conservative guest - Therefore, he only has liberal guests (who support everything he says) on now. Gee, Keith, if that's such a big problem, why not have just a liberal OR a conservative guest (every blue moon) on, rather than banning conservatives forever? Can't believe Kurtz didn't nail him to the wall on that line of bs.
The fact of the matter is that Olbermann's a lightweight's lightweight, completely incapable of thinking on his feet.
Well he's funnier than
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 10:06 ET by Jack BauerWell he's funnier than Hitler. But then, who isn't?
Libocrites like Olbermental
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 09:42 ET by mattmLibocrites like Olbermental claim to be so wary of Herr Bush and his spying on this country's enemies, yet they will be the first in line to have their forehead stamped with their health-security number, and have their citizen ID chip implanted in their right wrist.
The Nazis were socialists, just like the Democrats (and McCain)...
Is it just me, or is this
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 10:43 ET by sunandsteelIs it just me, or is this douche trying to play both sides of the coin at the end of this Special Ed Comment.
Seems like he is saying the FISA doesnt work at stopping terrorism, then says if PRESIDENT Bush vetos it and terrorists attack, then it is PRESIDENT Bush's fault. Kinda admits that FISA does work then IMO.
I doubt PRESIDENT Bush could do anything to make Olberwang happy, "And tonights worst person in the world: President Bush, for only taxing the ultra-rich, dismantling the Army, giving up control of our nation to France, and giving everyone a free puppy, you are the worst person in the world."
What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom
I beg to differ, "Mr."
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:53 ET by WolfremI beg to differ, "Mr." Olbermann (Note last name is of german origin)
"dismantling the Army"
The dismantling of our armed forces began in ernest in 1992. I left the military in 1994. When and in which branch did you serve to make you the expert?
In my humble opinion, freedom of speech and freedom of the press have limits. The MSM has crossed that line with slander, libel and divulging military secrets. And this guy is auditioning for lead anchor of PRAVDA.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
The video link...
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 10:50 ET by SyriusBW,
Why leave out the video link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBdBhtOoPus
Could someone please explain 'Bath Tub Boy'?
Thanks,
Syrius
"...the dire consequences to society when people begin to believe that by
renaming someone to erase their humanity opens the door to the
devaluation of everyone's life..."-dscott
Syrius,
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:45 ET by MassConservTry doing a seach on it, someone explained it month or so ago. Sorry don't remember exactly when.
If I recall correctly, it has something to do with a fit or breakdown Meltdown had and he wouldn't get out of his tubby.
MassConserv
Hey Keith, this guy sounds
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:16 ET by rbosqueHey Keith, this guy sounds like a "nazi".
"The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people" - Newly
elected President Bill Clinton on MTV in 1993
Did ya sound off on him too??? Oh that's right, he supports killing babies so it's OK.
Mr Olbermann, you sir are an
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:22 ET by FlashmanMr Olbermann, you sir are an idiot.
Good night and get bent.
When is somebody going to
Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:37 ET by bigtimerWhen is somebody going to commit Olbermann...he is rabidly insane.