Lawrence O'Donnell and Other Liberals Make a Fool of Rep. Alan Grayson
For the second night in a row, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell exposed a prominent liberal for being totally ignorant about the tax code.
His victim on Wednesday's "The Last Word" was liberal media darling Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.), and this time O'Donnell had some assistance from two very unlikely participants (video follows with partial transcript and commentary):
REP. ALAN GRAYSON (D-FLORIDA): So they are giving a 100 percent tax cut to large corporations only. And I mean large corporations only because small corporations already get to write off $250,000 of their investments, but no more than that. So taking this tax cut that was meant, this tax benefit that was meant for small corporations, and they're applying it to Microsoft, they're applying it to GE, they're applying it to huge multinational corporations to cut their taxes to zero next year, because some people in the White House evidently think that the real problem with the U.S. economy today is that corporations aren't making enough money.
Did you notice the man in the bottom right-hand corner of the screen shaking his head saying “No?’ That’s Robert Greenstein, the head of the liberal think tank the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities who in a few minutes was going to strongly challenge Grayson’s assertions.
But before he got to the plate, there were others holding bats waiting to get at the Congressman:
LAWRENCE O’DONNELL, HOST: Congressman, if the -- if you were to succeed at this and kill this bill, all tax rates would increase on January 1st. Do you know which bracket would be hit with the largest percentage increase?
GRAYSON: Yes, the people who have dividend income.
O’DONNELL: Wrong, Congressman. Stop there, it's the bottom tax bracket, not the top tax bracket. The bottom tax bracket would go from ten percent to fifteen percent. That is a 50 percent increase in the bottom income tax bracket…
GRAYSON: I'm sorry…
O’DONNELL: the one that none of you Democrats ever talk about. You are wrong, sir.
GRAYSON: Respectfully…
O’DONNELL: You are wrong, sir!
Sweet. But that was just the beginning, for when the Washington Post’s liberal blogger Ezra Klein got his turn, he too went right after the Congressman:
EZRA KLEIN, WASHINGTON POST: I can’t agree with Rep. Grayson’s opinion on the business tax cut. That tax cut isn’t a secret. It was first proposed by the Obama administration in September. What it does is it takes investments, you usually get a deduction for that over time, and instead of giving it to them over ten years, it gives it to them in one year. So, you’re trying to pull investment forward from the future into 2011. Over the next ten years that would cost $30 billion not $150 billion, and it isn't a zeroing out of the corporate tax rate. I take his point that, you know, you can argue that corporations pay too little already, they have mountains of profits they're sitting on, and so there’s arguments about how effective it will be. But it isn’t, it isn’t just a giveaway. It's an attempt to try to move investment from the future to here. And that does make some sense in the current situation when they have this level of profits they could spend if they wanted to.
Nicely stated, and quite the contrary of what Grayson claimed. But there was still more, for after the break, when Grayson got a chance to respond, it was quickly met with further opposition first from Klein then from Greenstein:
KLEIN: Sir, I must respectfully disagree with you.
O’DONNELL: Ezra, go quickly, and then I’m going to get Bob Greenstein in.
KLEIN: Number one, I’ve sat with Larry Summers while he explained this number one is domestic, not foreign. I can't speak to the materials you got on this. But number two, this does get paid back, I don't believe you're suggesting, or maybe you are, that over the next – that they are not -- there's not a depreciation that is going to get ratcheted back, because what you're doing is moving an existing tax break into one year rather than over a period of time. But why don’t I let Bob speak to this because he knows it better than anyone.
O’DONNELL: Bob Greenstein, go ahead.
ROBERT GREENSTEIN, CENTER ON BUDGET AND POLICY PRIORITIES: You know, Lawrence, I'm not sure any group in town has put out as many reports over the years attacking as many corporate giveaways as we have.
O’DONNELL: That's correct.
GREENSTEIN: This isn't one them. Congressman Grayson is misinformed, Ezra’s right. What this provision does is it accelerates into the next year or two tax deductions that corporations would have taken anyway in subsequent years. They get 150 billion in the next year or two, but they get 120 billion less. They pay 120 billion more in taxes than they otherwise would in the years after that. Those are the official figures, they’re not from the White House. I think they're from Congress's own official estimator on this.
And there it is: in the course of about fifteen minutes, Grayson’s views on this tax plan were completely discredited by three different liberals on the nation's most left-leaning cable news network.
This wouldn’t be at all surprising if he was a Republican. But this is a devout liberal that gained prominence with the far-left and MSNBC when he took to the House floor in September 2009 claiming that the Republican healthcare plan was, “Don’t get sick, and if you do get sick, die quickly.”
Since then, he’s been a darling with the Netroots and folks like Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Ed Schultz.
Makes one wonder if the bloom has come of this rose because of his defeat in the November elections, or if folks on the left have finally figured out what a buffoon he is.
Either way, it sure was entertaining seeing him torn to shreds by folks on his side of the aisle on the network that does its darnedest to advance a far-left agenda.
Please also see "Lawrence O'Donnell Exposes Liberal Ignorance of Tax Code."
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As far as I can tell, Grayson
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 3:38am.
As far as I can tell, Grayson doesn't need anyone to help him look like a fool!!! He does it every time he opens his stupid mouth!!! But when lib MSM socialist sheeple like O'Donnell start busting his chops, it gives you a pretty good idea of what kind of pathetic shape the loony left is in................................
you have that right!!
Submitted by Patriot II on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:47am.
This buffoon can make a fool out of himself without any help at all!!!!
Next to be a contestant on
Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:53am.
Next to be a contestant on Dancing With The Stars?
lo
Submitted by amyshulk on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 4:01am.
That was awesome!!! I may have to give his show another try!
Ronald Reagan
Yoda said it best about Grayson
Submitted by KC Mulville on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 4:04am.
"At an end your rule is and not short enough it was, I must say."
He's stealing our jobs!
Submitted by JakeMo on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 5:48am.
Grayson is about to be unemployed and looking for a job. The most obvious place? MSNBC.
O'Donnell is just trying to knock Grayson down a few notches because he's afraid Grayson might be his replacement.
Lawrence O'Donnell is also taking on Olbermann and Maddow.
Submitted by Rush Fan on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 6:46am.
Inside Cable News reports that :
Inside Cable News explains that while Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow were vehemently attacking Obama’s Tax Deal the first two hours of MSNBC prime time, when it was Lawrence O'Donnell's turn at bat, he took the opposite view. As Noel Sheppard points out, O'Donnell not only supported the Obama Tax Deal with Republicans, but he attacked those on the left who oppose the deal.
Inside Cable News goes on to point out that:
Considering that Keith Olbermann runs MSNBC, perhaps we can expect Lawrence O'Donnell to receive time off in the corner (without pay, of course) for opposing Olbermann and Maddow's stance on the Obama Tax Deal.
A Liberal Come Lately?
Submitted by fstaff on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 7:54am.
All well and good, but I noticed MSNBC never called that buffoon out like that before he lost his re-election. Liberals always savage their losers.
Don't get all giddy over this
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 8:34am.
Don't get all giddy over this video. Lawrence O'Donnell is a self proclaimed ( his own words on air many times, many places, most recently Morning Zoo ( Joe).
He only is picking on Grayson in this place & time because he lost in November.
No matter how vulgar or embarrassing a liberal is, if he's in office and staying there, he gets the Obama Socialist Regime / MSNBC talking points three days before appearing for review. Then the night before a jr. producer calls to administer a pop quiz just so everyone is on the same page the next day.
This was a well thought out and orchastrated ambush in a lame attempt to distance what's left of the true party of NO ( democrats ) from the jackass's of the party that didn't survive.
Watch what happens when Anthony Weiner comes on with Larry in the next week or so if you need proof.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Alan Grayson is ignorant
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 8:55am.
Alan Grayson is ignorant about a great many things.....
I'd say
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:19am.
just about everything above autonomic response falls into that category.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
31 Million reasons Grayson can be ignorant.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:27am.
Grayson is a puzzlement.
He worked his way through college, then went to law school. Ended up with 31 million from his legal work. Essentially he is a self made man, but is now a crazy liberal. Go figure.
He actually made his millions
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:23am.
He actually made his millions while president of Newark N.J. based IDT Communications, not as an attorney, as it's first president back in the 1990's.
I could not imagine hiring this jackass as my attorney, maybe as a clown for my kid's birthday party, but as an attorney...never.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Oh! Thanx for the info. Still puzzling.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:57am.
The puzzle remains. I can understand inheriting a vast sum of money and be a liberal kook.
I can't understand "earning" it and being a liberal kook. Why would you want to see your hard earned money disappear in taxes? Guilt?
I was so surprised when I learned that he is worth 31 million. I just thought he was a loudmouth dumbbell riding the congressional gravy train to wealth, and that we wouldn't see much of him afterr his defeat in the elections. I was wrong.
Truly bizarre.
Submitted by JLin on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 4:23pm.
Did he steal the money? How is it possible someone this stupid actually earned it? Lucky lawsuit? Lotto?
take off the last 5 words
Submitted by TheHistorian on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:59am.
and you are perfectly correct about Alan Grayson.
Mr. Grayson, be glad there are another 13 months of unemployment. You will need it, because you are too stupid to hold a legitimate job.
Dennis Prager
Entertaining, yes. Bloom off the rose… no.
Submitted by Sweetness on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:12am.
What they do here is provide cover for Obama's "compromise" by throwing Grayson under the bus. Not too difficult, since he is illogical, a poster child for the dem defeat in November, and certifiably loony.
The latest sitcom
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:23am.
from Duck N Cover Entertainment: "@#$%^ My Congressman Says"
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Grayson is embarrassingly stupid
Submitted by Cactus Kurt on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 9:47am.
Democrats would be wise to forbid the recently-terminated nincompoop Grayson from doing interviews. Simply embarrassing.
He's not so bad
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:02am.
Let him talk, all day, everyday. : )
I agree
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:02am.
I laughed my head off watching him and Ed Schultz engage in a mutual love fest once on The Ed Show.
Give these clowns more and more exposure. They're poster children for the Fringe Left.
I guess O'Donnell's support
Submitted by Chris Norman on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:12am.
I guess O'Donnell's support for what Obama does trumps his sympathy for what the far left wants - "Obama" being the operative word here.
Spudsucker Alan
Submitted by rossi on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:25am.
I knew Alan Grayson when he was doing spud work for traffic ,VOP and misdemeaner violators at the 9th circuit court in Orlando. Our code word for him was D A and it didn't mean prosecutor.
"Lawrence O'Donnell and Other
Submitted by Beukeboom on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 10:58am.
"Lawrence O'Donnell and Other Liberals Make a Fool of Rep. Alan Grayson"
Never a difficult feat.
Don't let the door hit this D-Bag in the ass on the way out
Submitted by ah64mtp on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 11:08am.
"D" stands for Douche. Flushing out idiots one Democrat at a time.
Didn't waste my time
Submitted by kaj on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 12:34pm.
watching the clip. Read the partial transcript and wasn't surprised by what I read.
Alan is a 'my way or the highway' kind of guy. I would not want him as my lawyer for any kind of court case. He's the kind who would get you a life sentence for a jay walking ticket because the Judge over ruled an objection he had made.
Larry is a Socialist and admits it.
So he seems to be liberal because they are closer to his politicial views than conservatives. But like all liberals/socialist, he's still an idiot and jerk.
But to 'make a fool of Grayson' doesn't require any kind of talent, preparation or even a remark. Just put him in front of a camera and he'll gladly show the world how big of a fool he is.
I guess the sad part is, there is a woman who actually married the jerk and made kid(s) with him. She had to have been under the effects of the 'date rape' drug.... she just had to have been.
Grayson, O'Donnell, Schultz, et al ...
Submitted by Rokketmania on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 1:01pm.
Don't ya just love it when Leftists eat their own?
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The idiots over a A-MESS-NBC
Submitted by djwolf12 on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 1:51pm.
are trying as hard as they possibly can to salvage their careers because they know the jig is up. They unmasked themselves for who they are (Socialists, with O'Donnell being the openly-socialist on-air personality) and the American people reject them. Watching O'Doofus and Ezra (Journo-list, What Journo-list?) Klein running to the center is all the makings of Must-Miss TV.
A useful idiot
Submitted by Rebar002 on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 2:11pm.
Alan Grayson is a lame duck, and a wounded duck, and of no use to the Liberal media. He'll become a "non-person" once the new Congress is sworn in.
I'm still laughing at Grayson's line about how MSNBC
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 2:15pm.
"...is supposed to be the intelligent network" LOLOLOLOLOLOL
One thing the left hate more
Submitted by Tjexcite on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 5:21pm.
One thing the left, socialist and progressives hate more than the Republicans and the right is failure by a progressive and by not pushing the progressive polices when they have the chance and then lose. If Grayson was going to be a congressman in the 112th he would not have even been challenged. but as he lost he is worthless. This too will happen to Obama if he does not declare war on the right. If he lets the right win on anything and Obama will go under the bus faster than anyone he sent under.
"Lawrence O'Donnell and Other
Submitted by Cowboy on Thu, 12/09/2010 - 8:46pm.
"Lawrence O'Donnell and Other Liberals Make a Fool of Rep. Alan Grayson".
Like that's a challenge?